GG Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 And Mario Harvey, of Marshall, a big fast ILB http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=77863&draftyear=2011&genpos=ILB Wouldn't call him big, at 5-11. But for a 257 lb guy to run a sub 4.5 is impressive. Of the top 10 ranked ILBs, he's the shortest, but 2nd fastest and heavisest. Really interesting combo. On the surface could be a Fletcher-Baker clone as a tackling machine. Beef on Antonio Coleman also was his size, and the jury is still out on him. Still Harvey adds even more tenacity and bang to the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Wouldn't call him big, at 5-11. But for a 257 lb guy to run a sub 4.5 is impressive. Of the top 10 ranked ILBs, he's the shortest, but 2nd fastest and heavisest. Really interesting combo. On the surface could be a Fletcher-Baker clone as a tackling machine. Beef on Antonio Coleman also was his size, and the jury is still out on him. Still Harvey adds even more tenacity and bang to the defense. I called him big just because he's 5' 11" and 257. That's big. He's not tall but he's big. Kind of a pet peeve of mine. I think a guy who is 5' 11" 257 is often "bigger" than a guy who is 6' 1" 257. Semantics, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I followed alot of Carolina Football and Pianalto was a gamer, if it wasn't for his injuries I'm pretty sure he would of regarded as a good propsect coming out of college. I wouldnt be surprised if he makes the team. Ah, but... 2 broken legs and a broken foot. I don't know of anybody who is NFL-Fast with this history.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) I called him big just because he's 5' 11" and 257. That's big. He's not tall but he's big. Kind of a pet peeve of mine. I think a guy who is 5' 11" 257 is often "bigger" than a guy who is 6' 1" 257. Semantics, sure. That's why he's referred to as a fireplug. Just get a bunch of Cee Lo Greens running around the field for comic relief. Edited July 26, 2011 by GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I called him big just because he's 5' 11" and 257. That's big. He's not tall but he's big. Kind of a pet peeve of mine. I think a guy who is 5' 11" 257 is often "bigger" than a guy who is 6' 1" 257. Semantics, sure. to borrow from a well known source..... "It's not a question of where he grips it. It's a simple question of weight ratios. A five ounce bird, could not carry a one pound coconut." Along those loosely interpreted lines, I agree with you. 5'11'' is typically 'bigger.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 to borrow from a well known source..... "It's not a question of where he grips it. It's a simple question of weight ratios. A five ounce bird, could not carry a one pound coconut." Along those loosely interpreted lines, I agree with you. 5'11'' is typically 'bigger.' If he can make form tackles 5 yards away from the los then he can make this team. It looks like we'll have an opening for that. An UDFA, Londoon Fletcher clone wouldn't be a bad fill in for an injury prone second round reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 They list Zach Pinalto TE as having signed with the Bills. Solid, if injury prone player. I'm aware of a broken bone, but nothing further (I think that's what cost him last season). Anyone with details on Pinalto's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I'm aware of a broken bone, but nothing further (I think that's what cost him last season). Anyone with details on Pinalto's history? http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/9498101/ If he can make form tackles 5 yards away from the los then he can make this team. It looks like we'll have an opening for that. An UDFA, Londoon Fletcher clone wouldn't be a bad fill in for an injury prone second round reach. He's bigger and faster than Fletcher. But does he have the instincts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/9498101/ Thanks. I'm no Doc, but the broken fibulas concern me much more than the dislocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Im fired up about Harvey, Davis and Pinalto. I haven't seen the other guys play. Harvey was a no brained, glad we got it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) to borrow from a well known source..... "It's not a question of where he grips it. It's a simple question of weight ratios. A five ounce bird, could not carry a one pound coconut." Well that's one side of the story, but you're limiting the discussion to European swallows. Edited July 26, 2011 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thanks. I'm no Doc, but the broken fibulas concern me much more than the dislocation. Bones can heal, joints are more difficult to get back to 100% if ever. I'm generally more concerned by joint stuff. "A dislocated foot" is a strange term. Dislocation generally means joints and ligaments are involved and the foot is a hot spot for bones and ligaments. Either way if he broke both his legs he may not have the bone density that can take being crushed to the ground by angry LBs on a regular basis. If I cared enough I would like to see the video of the dislocated foot, I'd be willing to bet it was tackle from behind where someone grabbed his foot and twisted. Its not a common football injury. Another clue that his physiology may not be NFL ready. Just kind of freaky term that piqued my interest, although a dislocated foot is technically a stubbed toe. Dislocation of the foot is an uncommon injury that usually occurs in individuals sustaining multiple trauma such as from a motor vehicle accident (or having 6-4 250+lb men chase after you and forcefully and violently bring you to the ground)http://www.mdguidelines.com/dislocation-foot However the kid looks like he has a ton of potential (30 catches in 6 games) and should have every opportunity to earn a roster spot at TE on this team if he can perform in camp and pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thanks. I'm no Doc, but the broken fibulas concern me much more than the dislocation. Yeah, it's really weird. I sort of feel like he's been snakebitten. There's no question the talent is there; he was a primary weapon for the Heels when healthy. Maybe he's had his run of bad luck and will be one of those proverbial diamonds in the rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Herzlich signed with the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 According to this sister site, Weber is (most likely) not signing with the Bills. http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/2011/07/open-thread-bills-udfa-signings/ Weber apparently signed with the Broncos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Weber apparently signed with the Broncos A surprise to me that he would sign there with two relatively young QBs on the roster (and Orton who will move). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Mario Harvey looks like he may have signed with the Steelers and not the Bills. It's on the website. http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/15-undrafted-rookies-agree/19b814b1-122c-4816-80e5-66c654ace6ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Well that's one side of the story, but you're limiting the discussion to European swallows. Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Mario Harvey looks like he may have signed with the Steelers and not the Bills. It's on the website. http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/15-undrafted-rookies-agree/19b814b1-122c-4816-80e5-66c654ace6ed That would sting. I'd rather have harvey than chris white. But that just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 this site shows Pitt also They have now replaced Harvey with the Taua signing Mario Harvey looks like he may have signed with the Steelers and not the Bills. It's on the website. http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/15-undrafted-rookies-agree/19b814b1-122c-4816-80e5-66c654ace6ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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