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There are reports that the New England Patriots, holders of six picks in the top 92 selections of this year’s draft, could be convinced to part with their second first-round pick at 28. The Patriots also have the 17th pick in addition to the 28th and they’ve got the first pick in round 2 (33rd overall):

 

 

 

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2011/03/21/pats-ready-to-deal-2nd-1st/

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There are reports that the New England Patriots, holders of six picks in the top 92 selections of this year’s draft, could be convinced to part with their second first-round pick at 28. The Patriots also have the 17th pick in addition to the 28th and they’ve got the first pick in round 2 (33rd overall):

 

 

 

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2011/03/21/pats-ready-to-deal-2nd-1st/

 

Depending on who is there at #28 (i.e., Gabe Carimi) it may be worthwhile to trade our 2nd and maybe a 5th rounder to move up.

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What is sickening in this whole situation is that the Pats even have 6 picks out of the top 92. Let's say they only hit on 50% that means they are three players better (define it how you want). The Bills will be lucky to get three solid contributors out of the draft given their history. The odds simply are that the Pats will improve more than the Bills will through this draft.

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What is sickening in this whole situation is that the Pats even have 6 picks out of the top 92. Let's say they only hit on 50% that means they are three players better (define it how you want). The Bills will be lucky to get three solid contributors out of the draft given their history. The odds simply are that the Pats will improve more than the Bills will through this draft.

Given the Pats recent draft history, they'll be lucky to get anywhere near 50%.

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Given the Pats recent draft history, they'll be lucky to get anywhere near 50%.

 

Tha pats drafted 4 instant starters in last years draft. Their top two picks made the pro bowl. The Bills are lucky to get two starters after 3 years of "developing" in one draft, let alone 1st years PBers.

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Tha pats drafted 4 instant starters in last years draft. Their top two picks made the pro bowl. The Bills are lucky to get two starters after 3 years of "developing" in one draft, let alone 1st years PBers.

 

Due to poor drafting, Brady is the only one holding that rickety team together. Mayo, McCournty and the two TEs, that's it, that's all they got from the gazillion draft picks that the've had over the last several years.

 

Yes, last year was a good draft for them, but the interior trenches of that team are fading fast. My hope is that Brady gets nicked up more and more and decides to call it an early career in a couple of years. Think about it, he probably does want a long and healthy life with Gisselle (SP?) after he's done playing. The longer these QBs go, the more decrepit they become at age 50 and above.

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What is sickening in this whole situation is that the Pats even have 6 picks out of the top 92. Let's say they only hit on 50% that means they are three players better (define it how you want). The Bills will be lucky to get three solid contributors out of the draft given their history. The odds simply are that the Pats will improve more than the Bills will through this draft.

 

Not to keep piling on, but this article left out that they also have 2 picks in the 4th round as well. So that's 8 in the first 4 rounds... :sick:

 

Luckily, with the exception of last year, their drafts have been so-so over the past 5-10 years.

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Tha pats drafted 4 instant starters in last years draft. Their top two picks made the pro bowl. The Bills are lucky to get two starters after 3 years of "developing" in one draft, let alone 1st years PBers.

The Pats scored on two very solid TE's in last years draft. How many years does it take for the Bills to get two TE's? My guess is McKeller and Riemersma- so 20 years or so

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Due to poor drafting, Brady is the only one holding that rickety team together. Mayo, McCournty and the two TEs, that's it, that's all they got from the gazillion draft picks that the've had over the last several years.

 

Yes, last year was a good draft for them, but the interior trenches of that team are fading fast. My hope is that Brady gets nicked up more and more and decides to call it an early career in a couple of years. Think about it, he probably does want a long and healthy life with Gisselle (SP?) after he's done playing. The longer these QBs go, the more decrepit they become at age 50 and above.

 

 

I would mind having their rickety team...

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Depending on who is there at #28 (i.e., Gabe Carimi) it may be worthwhile to trade our 2nd and maybe a 5th rounder to move up.

 

I don't get the infatuation with Carimi ?? I saw some tape of him on utube & Bowers took his a** to the wood shed & taught him what it was like to play against a better player .

 

He couldn't stop nothin that Bowers put out !!

 

We don't need any more prospects for the guard position !!!

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Due to poor drafting, Brady is the only one holding that rickety team together. Mayo, McCournty and the two TEs, that's it, that's all they got from the gazillion draft picks that the've had over the last several years.

 

Yes, last year was a good draft for them, but the interior trenches of that team are fading fast. My hope is that Brady gets nicked up more and more and decides to call it an early career in a couple of years. Think about it, he probably does want a long and healthy life with Gisselle (SP?) after he's done playing. The longer these QBs go, the more decrepit they become at age 50 and above.

 

You kidding me? Devin McCourty, Rob Gronkowski, Brandon Spikes, Aaron Hernandez, Patrick Chung (96 tackles, 3 INTs, 1 TD and a key blocked punt in the Jets game on special teams), Sebastion Vollmer a 4th round draft pick who's now starting for the Patriots, Brandon Tate has shown flashes, Julian Edleman, Jerod Mayo, Brandon Meriweather, Stephen Gostkowski, Logan Mankins, Nick Kaczur, Matt Cassel, Vince Wilfork, Eugene Wilson, Ty Warren, Dan Koppen, Asante Samuel, Tully Banta Cain, Richard Seymour, Matt Light.

 

Yeaaa...That's it. Who have they drafted? A bunch of nobodies. :rolleyes:

 

I hate the Patriots and Brady as much as anybody out there but I give credit where credit is due. There's a reason why the Patriots are always one of the best teams in the league, because they just pile up draft picks like this. The Patriots and Eagles are by far the best teams at working the board, and this is why their talent level is always through the roof. We should learn from these teams. Joe Banner and Kraft have these teams in position to succeed for many years to come.

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What is sickening in this whole situation is that the Pats even have 6 picks out of the top 92. Let's say they only hit on 50% that means they are three players better (define it how you want). The Bills will be lucky to get three solid contributors out of the draft given their history. The odds simply are that the Pats will improve more than the Bills will through this draft.

Good point! When the Pats trade down every year and get more picks they simply increase their chances of getting a good player. Thankfully they have actually drafted fairly poorly of late with the exception of Mayo. Contrast that with Marv's approach to give away draft picks gained from decent player trades to move up and draft the likes of Poz and McCargo. It's easy to see why the Bills are who we are....

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If New England is interested in the 3rd pick overall, they better be prepared to pay the following:

 

1st round - 17th overall 2011

1st round - 28th overall 2011

2nd round - 33rd overall 2011

 

and of course, their 1st round pick overall in the 2012 draft.

 

Then I would jump at the offer, otherwise, have a nice day.

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If New England is interested in the 3rd pick overall, they better be prepared to pay the following:

 

1st round - 17th overall 2011

1st round - 28th overall 2011

2nd round - 33rd overall 2011

 

and of course, their 1st round pick overall in the 2012 draft.

 

Then I would jump at the offer, otherwise, have a nice day.

 

The Patriots won't be the worst team in the NFL. Sorry

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You kidding me? Devin McCourty, Rob Gronkowski, Brandon Spikes, Aaron Hernandez, Patrick Chung (96 tackles, 3 INTs, 1 TD and a key blocked punt in the Jets game on special teams), Sebastion Vollmer a 4th round draft pick who's now starting for the Patriots, Brandon Tate has shown flashes, Julian Edleman, Jerod Mayo, Brandon Meriweather, Stephen Gostkowski, Logan Mankins, Nick Kaczur, Matt Cassel, Vince Wilfork, Eugene Wilson, Ty Warren, Dan Koppen, Asante Samuel, Tully Banta Cain, Richard Seymour, Matt Light.

 

Yeaaa...That's it. Who have they drafted? A bunch of nobodies. :rolleyes:

 

I hate the Patriots and Brady as much as anybody out there but I give credit where credit is due. There's a reason why the Patriots are always one of the best teams in the league, because they just pile up draft picks like this. The Patriots and Eagles are by far the best teams at working the board, and this is why their talent level is always through the roof. We should learn from these teams. Joe Banner and Kraft have these teams in position to succeed for many years to come.

 

 

What part of "last several years" didn't you get...Richard Seymour?????...LOL

 

I stand by what I said, they are fading due to bad drafts and the only one who's holding them up is Brady.

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I don't get the infatuation with Carimi ?? I saw some tape of him on utube & Bowers took his a** to the wood shed & taught him what it was like to play against a better player .

 

He couldn't stop nothin that Bowers put out !!

 

We don't need any more prospects for the guard position !!!

 

Dude, not sure what you're smokin but pass some this way. Carimi is arguably the best RT prospect in this draft, and is quite possibly the best run blocker. He is what we need on the right side of our offensive line. BTW...ask Adrian Clayborn and Cam Heyward what it's like to play against a good offensive tackle.

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