Captain Hindsight Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Just realized your username is actually Captain Hindsight. Haha i changed it a few weeks back. Figured it was perfect for a place like this Hamdan's Revenge has been retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInNebraska Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 This move makes me happy. He was not paying dividends on the field and to keep him would be to commit to mediocrity. Seemed like a good guy, and I liked his bits on BB website, but if you are not making plays on this team, the team needs to replace you. Go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I was in Class....just learning of the news now! I will not fault the current regime. We should never have hired Dick Jauron! And Giving an extension to aging DT was foolish! We should have used that money for a player that is still on the roster today! We should have drafted Brian Cushing! Yes! Well done! If used correctly and not overdone, this shtick could be funny for months if not years. (too bad you wont know how long until it's too late) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I'm just wondering if he had a roster bonus due for March 1. Many contracts do this, especially older players, so the team has to either make a large financial commitment or cut them and give them a shot in the money-money-money UFA period. JW wrote that Stroud was due $10M over the next 2 seasons. If I'm reading this right, 3/1/11 he was owed $5.5M and 3/1/12, it was to be $4.5M. Stroud’s departure was not considered a surprise after the 10-year NFL veteran struggled in making the transition in Buffalo’s switch to a 3-4 defensive scheme. Stroud was scheduled to make $10 million in base salary over the final two years of his contract, including $4.5 million next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Yes! Well done! If used correctly and not overdone, this shtick could be funny for months if not years. (too bad you wont know how long until it's too late) I will use my powers only for good and as long as they are needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I will use my powers only for good and as long as they are needed Maybe, how do you know, you can only see into the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Maybe, how do you know, you can only see into the past Therein lies the challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 This actually bodes well for him getting a longer look as he financially isnt any kind of risk...again though, he better show something or he wont last long in TC. He better be on Merrimans jock this whole offseason tyring to learn how to play this game we call football... Yeah thats kind of what I was driving at......he has basically gotten the bulk of his money already....so it isnt like cutting him will offer any real savings. Maybe he can fetch gatorade for the real players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I wonder how much input Wanny had into this decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Great. Makes defensive line even more of a need. I really hope they're planning on bringing someone in during free agency. Hope you are joking.. 48 games and 7 1/2 sacks? We can do better.. much better. The point being that despite being on the downward slope and playing out of position he was better than whatever else we have. Now if they don't go out and bring in a free agent we'll be relying on a rookie to make an impact. I'm all for improving the team, but wait until you have a replacement before you start trimming the roster. He is absolutely not better than anything else we have. Carrington is not a rookie and neither is Spencer. Do you even watch the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I always liked Marcus Stroud and wish him the best. Stroud's better years are behind him though, so it's time to find better players to replace him and a bunch of others on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas56 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I just got the text from the Bills. I cant say im too suprised, he was pretty bad last year. That leaves us with Williams, Troup, Carrington, and Edwards (and Spencer Johnson I guess.). Hopefully we bail on Kelsay too and use those money allocated to those two guys and poney up for Sioli. The we are a top draft pick away from a very stout DL. DE: Williams/Carrington NG: Sioli/Troupe/Williams(pass rusing NG) DE: 1st Round pick/Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 JW wrote that Stroud was due $10M over the next 2 seasons. If I'm reading this right, 3/1/11 he was owed $5.5M and 3/1/12, it was to be $4.5M. other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Nothing shocking and completely expected in my opinion. Besides clearing cap money and making room for new guys what REALLY REALLY gets me optimistic is the thought that Williams might make a full time move to DE this year in the 3 - 4. He can still situationally play NT if the Bills jump out to big leads on teams when attacking the QB and getting into the backfield are more important for a NT I used to dog the Bills for having to play this late round pick but the guy is the little engine that could. He made a probowl this year and has developed into a great penetrator and play maker. That being said he is not a 2 gap run stuffing NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I wonder how much input Wanny had into this decision? I had the same thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 With carrington and Edwards I think we had our starters. If troup gets more snaps, you will have Williams splitting some snaps between the two positions I think. If we go out and get a career 34 end like Davis is too our linebackers, or a mid round pick, I think we are more then set. That said we could use an early pick still - very likely. That would have put stroud as our 4th end, not even counting Williams possibly getting snaps. There's a whole lot of "if" in there. (cue the "letting Stroud become a free agent early instead of in camp will make the Bills look good and help them attract free agents" crowd) Yeah when is all this acquired goodwill going to start paying dividends for the Bills? I keep waiting for it to happen and it never seems to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 (edited) There's a whole lot of "if" in there. yea, a wide variety of ways to replace him, not a long sequence of events required to replace him. these were "or" statements, not "and" statements. big difference. if we get a DT, KW is an end if we get an end in the draft if we get one in free agency if troup gets a solid number of snaps, KW gets more snaps at end oh yea, and IF the front office likes spencer johnson more, that would make him the 4th end, regardless of any of those. its very possible any of those ifs are what make him 5th on the DE depth chart, and probably not making the team anyway. oh yea, and one last thing before we bash the front office -- what if stroud didnt want to be here? Edited February 16, 2011 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 oh yea, and one last thing before we bash the front office -- what if stroud didnt want to be here? Well he's under contract. Shut up and play. I'm kind of sick of the front office bending over backwards to pave the way out of town for disgruntled players. This very well might end up being a positive move, but I wish I believed it was anything more than a way to save Ralph Wilson a few bucks, yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 (edited) Well he's under contract. Shut up and play. I'm kind of sick of the front office bending over backwards to pave the way out of town for disgruntled players. This very well might end up being a positive move, but I wish I believed it was anything more than a way to save Ralph Wilson a few bucks, yet again. why would letting a guy you might not believe is going to make the team leave at this point if you both agree he isnt a good fit "bending over backwards" if all he was going to be was a warm body, let a guy who has been nothing but class take care of himself. what contribution did you see him making to the team this year? short of about 3 injuries, i dont think he got playing time. he was going to eat cash (there will be a cap) and a roster spot for little to no gain. Edited February 16, 2011 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Too bad it had to go down this way. From all accounts he was the anti-Haynesworth and he tried his best to fit into the new scheme but it just didn't work out. He wasn't producing like he was in 2008 but again what is the plan to replace him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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