\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/jets_sanchez_and_hs_gal_in_qb_sack_mZbd0040agTuBTZDU69YnM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The real story: http://deadspin.com/#!5755011/the-somewhat-romantic-story-of-mark-sanchez-and-a-17+year+old-girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 "But officer! She told me she was 18!" - T. Henry Dirty Sanchez, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayers Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 "But officer! She told me she was 18!" - T. Henry Dirty Sanchez, indeed. She didn't need to be 18. 17 is legal in NY,NJ, & CT plus I don't really see whats so bad he is only 5 years older then her which is not that bad in age difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 In Germany, they cut your nuts off for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 17 or not, he can do better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 17 or not, he can do better than that. No kidding. He's the starting QB of an NFL franchise and the best he could do was a high schooler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 In Germany, they cut your nuts off for that Actually, the legal age of consent in Germany is 14... per wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 So your 17 year old daughter is in NYC nightclubs till all hours on New Year's Eve, then hooking up and spending the night in NJ at some guy's house? Boy, that's some rock solid parenting going on there in Greenwich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Actually, the legal age of consent in Germany is 14... per wikipedia. Yes I know that...we ALL do. Tell it to this guy... link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 She didn't need to be 18. 17 is legal in NY,NJ, & CT plus I don't really see whats so bad he is only 5 years older then her which is not that bad in age difference Thanks for the clarification. So your 17 year old daughter is in NYC nightclubs till all hours on New Year's Eve, then hooking up and spending the night in NJ at some guy's house? Boy, that's some rock solid parenting going on there in Greenwich! Let's not limit it to a single city/village/town. That entire state and everyone in it is whacked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 CAN YOU SAY SPOILED ROTTEN GOLD DIGGER ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayers Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 So your 17 year old daughter is in NYC nightclubs till all hours on New Year's Eve, then hooking up and spending the night in NJ at some guy's house? Boy, that's some rock solid parenting going on there in Greenwich! Come on your in CT her dad is some Millionaire that probably does not even realize that she is out of the house till she called and told them there was a snow storm CAN YOU SAY SPOILED ROTTEN GOLD DIGGER ?????? Wow are you really calling Sanchez a gold digger? Just so you know her Dad is way richer then Sanchez will ever be he got a 48 million bonus in 2000 is now a partner of the Five Mile Capital Partners firm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 She didn't need to be 18. 17 is legal in NY,NJ, & CT plus I don't really see whats so bad he is only 5 years older then her which is not that bad in age difference Meazza is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Well he figured it worked for Big Ben...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Well he figured it worked for Big Ben...... I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I don't get it. His theory goes like this..... Big Ben raped a woman and made the Super Bowl. Sanchez might think he'll win it if he one ups Ben so he goes for a 17 year old. Both have been accused on multiple occasions so they are even there. Sanchez' rape seems to have only been of the moral variety though since some states allow adults to take advantage of children. It is unclear whether Sanchez has actually one upped Ben. We won't know until next year's Super Bowl. I am not saying I agree or disagree with his theory, I am just explaining it. Get it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I don't get it. Getting away with living on the edge by having sex with young women picked up in clubs. Albeit this one was a willing participant, she's one click past the Mann Act and statutory rape. Not the smartest of choices for San-Chise. Probably never occurred to him she might be lying about her age. Flirting with the legal razor's edge is Ben's MO and it's a bad way to go for MS. His theory goes like this..... Big Ben raped a woman and made the Super Bowl. Sanchez might think he'll win it if he one ups Ben so he goes for a 17 year old. Both have been accused on multiple occasions so they are even there. Sanchez' rape seems to have only been of the moral variety though since some states allow adults to take advantage of children. It is unclear whether Sanchez has actually one upped Ben. We won't know until next year's Super Bowl. I am not saying I agree or disagree with his theory, I am just explaining it. Get it now? Nice break down Crayonz. I guess I'll have to flesh out my sarcasm in future posts of this nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 In Germany, they cut your nuts off for that In Italy they make you Prime Minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Getting away with living on the edge by having sex with young women picked up in clubs. Albeit this one was a willing participant, she's one click past the Mann Act and statutory rape. Not the smartest of choices for San-Chise. Probably never occurred to him she might be lying about her age. Flirting with the legal razor's edge is Ben's MO and it's a bad way to go for MS. Nice break down Crayonz. I guess I'll have to flesh out my sarcasm in future posts of this nature. Or make it more clever. Or something. Anyway, Manchize had consensual sex with a consenting woman who is of the age of consent. He just turned 24. I bet few other people (meaning none) have compared this to what BR was accused of. You are going a long mile to take a dig at a guy who plays on a team you don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Or make it more clever. Or something. Anyway, Manchize had consensual sex with a consenting woman who is of the age of consent. He just turned 24. I bet few other people (meaning none) have compared this to what BR was accused of. You are going a long mile to take a dig at a guy who plays on a team you don't like. Dear Meazza, Maybe he just thinks a famous QB conning a 17 year old girl into bed is low. He is not saying it is illegal in the backward state where the disgusting act of cowardice was perpetrated by a pervert who obviously has issues respecting human decency. Perhaps he is just pointing out that Sanchez is a sexual predator like Ben and that it gives him a good run at the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Dear Meazza, Maybe he just thinks a famous QB conning a 17 year old girl into bed is low. He is not saying it is illegal in the backward state where the disgusting act of cowardice was perpetrated by a pervert who obviously has issues respecting human decency. Perhaps he is just pointing out that Sanchez is a sexual predator like Ben and that it gives him a good run at the Super Bowl. Conning a 17 year old into bed? Sexual predator? Read the story. Anyway--still not funny. Didn't you used to be the funny one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Dear Meazza, Maybe he just thinks a famous QB conning a 17 year old girl into bed is low. He is not saying it is illegal in the backward state where the disgusting act of cowardice was perpetrated by a pervert who obviously has issues respecting human decency. Perhaps he is just pointing out that Sanchez is a sexual predator like Ben and that it gives him a good run at the Super Bowl. It's like Crayonz is reading my mind! Hey WEO, nice try. Geez all he did was have sex with a consenting girl who is of legal age....gimme a break. Nice matter of fact way to try and justify MS's behavior as OK? If I wanted to be an A**hole about MS, I could have said if it were a movie it'd be "Close Encounters in the Third Grade." Maybe he's just good at small talk with High School girls. Maybe they talked about the latest episode of "Glee" or relived their favorite moments of "That's so Raven" over a Mountain Dew. Hell, he could help her out on her SAT's. I guess in your world it's okay for a star NFL QB's to pick up 17 year old high school girls and have sex with them. It's pretty damn low in my world and I guess we'll just have to disagree on what constitutes decent behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Conning a 17 year old into bed? Sexual predator? Read the story. Anyway--still not funny. Didn't you used to be the funny one? Rape is rarely funny whether it is "legal" or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 she's legal, and he is single and only 24 at the time. whats the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayers Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 she's legal, and he is single and only 24 at the time. whats the big deal? This. Why is everyone jumping on him you did not take some girl in the bathroom and have his cop friends protect him. In the story it even says that he told her he would wait till she was 18 she told him 17 was ok so wouldn't that be on her now not him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) It's like Crayonz is reading my mind! Hey WEO, nice try. Geez all he did was have sex with a consenting girl who is of legal age....gimme a break. Nice matter of fact way to try and justify MS's behavior as OK? If I wanted to be an A**hole about MS, I could have said if it were a movie it'd be "Close Encounters in the Third Grade." Maybe he's just good at small talk with High School girls. Maybe they talked about the latest episode of "Glee" or relived their favorite moments of "That's so Raven" over a Mountain Dew. Hell, he could help her out on her SAT's. I guess in your world it's okay for a star NFL QB's to pick up 17 year old high school girls and have sex with them. It's pretty damn low in my world and I guess we'll just have to disagree on what constitutes decent behavior. Or maybe they talked about how cool it is to be hanging out at an exclusive Manhattan niteclubas she asked him to light her next cigarette and buy a few rounds for her and the girls she goes out to drinking establishments frequently. Who knows?-- but your mischaracterization of their meeting certainly seems more ominous and "almost illegal" than the facts reported by her and news sources. I'm not endorsing his behavior--just pointing out that he committed no crime (and didn't really "come close" to either) and that your analogy to BR is ridiculous and misinformed. Edited February 9, 2011 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Or maybe they talked about how cool it is to be hanging out at an exclusive Manhattan niteclubas she asked him to light her next cigarette and buy a few rounds for her and the girls she goes out to drinking establishments frequently. Who knows?-- but your mischaracterization of their meeting certainly seems more ominous and "almost illegal" than the facts reported by her and news sources. And your refusal to acknowledge that a 24 year old in a position of fame should at least have the decency of not scarring a 17 year old emotionally is callous at best. Perhaps Sanchez should have spent the extra 5 seconds looking for a 22 year old. I know his time is valuable and all but he'd probably be better off looking for legal loopholes in the tax code than the statutory rape code. This. Why is everyone jumping on him you did not take some girl in the bathroom and have his cop friends protect him. In the story it even says that he told her he would wait till she was 18 she told him 17 was ok so wouldn't that be on her now not him? Yes Kobe, blame the 17 year old. God forbid Sanchez is expected to have a scintilla of self discipline on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) And your refusal to acknowledge that a 24 year old in a position of fame should at least have the decency of not scarring a 17 year old emotionally is callous at best. Perhaps Sanchez should have spent the extra 5 seconds looking for a 22 year old. I know his time is valuable and all but he'd probably be better off looking for legal loopholes in the tax code than the statutory rape code. Yes Kobe, blame the 17 year old. God forbid Sanchez is expected to have a scintilla of self discipline on his own. :lol: Let's not forget, Mr. WEO is the one on the side of the owners in the CBA dispute. The OWNERS. The ones who are going to shut down the league because they want more money and don't want to pay for the health care of the men who give their bodies and health in an effort to MAKE the owners money. So it's clear he's comfortable surrounding himself with the morally suspect and unconscionable walks of life. Edited February 9, 2011 by tgreg99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) This. Why is everyone jumping on him you did not take some girl in the bathroom and have his cop friends protect him. In the story it even says that he told her he would wait till she was 18 she told him 17 was ok so wouldn't that be on her now not him? I think the whole world is just desperate to find dirt on anyone in the spotlight these days. So they're trying to make something out of nothing. And of course there will always be nerds that get worked up over anyone having sex of any kind. He has nothing to apologize for or even comment on. Edited February 9, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I think the whole world is just desperate to find dirt on anyone in the spotlight these days. So they're trying to make something out of nothing. And of course there will always be nerds that get worked up over anyone having sex of any kind. He has nothing to apologize for or even comment on. I'll take "Bull$*1t lines a kiddie porn dealer uses" for $1000 Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I'll take "Bull$*1t lines a kiddie porn dealer uses" for $1000 Alex. Well you can try sarcasm here, however law says she's not a "kiddie." You may feel differently, but that doesn't mean one iota regarding the legality of 2 consenting adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Well you can try sarcasm here, however law says she's not a "kiddie." You may feel differently, but that doesn't mean one iota regarding the legality of 2 consenting adults. I never commented on legality, just humanity. What is the legal age in Thailand? 4? Maybe Markie should move there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I think the only reason some people are upset by this is because she's 17 AND in high school. If it was an 18 year old high school senior or a 17 year old college freshman I doubt we would be having this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 she's legal, and he is single and only 24 at the time. whats the big deal? Exactly. Would I be happy if I had a 17-year-old daughter dating a 24-year-old man? NO! But it's not a crime. If Sanchez was a Bill, there would be a lot more acceptance on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I never commented on legality, just humanity. What is the legal age in Thailand? 4? Maybe Markie should move there. Don't know legal age in Thailand. But I do know it doesn't apply in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Well you can try sarcasm here, however law says she's not a "kiddie." You may feel differently, but that doesn't mean one iota regarding the legality of 2 consenting adults. Legality and morality aren't always the same thing. It's one of those situations I'd probably give my friends a hard time about. You know, being 2 years removed from college and having a 17 year old on the side? It's just not the way our society normally works, yet alone to be a rich famous athlete and have a highschool girl on the side. As some of the jokes point out- the level of maturity should be something that turns him off. As a 24 year old he shouldn't want to hear about gym class, or how hard her algebra test is going to be. He shouldn't care about the SATs or prom. It's just such a different world and he's multiple life stages removed from it. He moved on to college and then moved on to the real world. While he talks about his next million dollar contract, his mortgage or work she's trying to decide where to go to college. The only way a guy goes for that is if he's hard up for women(not the case), is too immature for women his own age, or is on a bit of a power trip (it's easier to control a 17 yr old), or he gets off on the age and that's as far as he can legally go. It's just basic psychology that says it's abnormal, even if it's totally legal. I can't imagine a larger 7 year gap in day to day lifestyle, experience etc.... Sure it's not illegal but it's definitely not "ok." obviously he even had second thoughts if he said he'd wait til she was 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Don't know legal age in Thailand. But I do know it doesn't apply in America. Let me see if I have this right. You're not sure whether it is correct etiquette to tip the cable guy and you care enough to ask, but you are sure it is correct etiquette sleep with a 17 year old and you don't care what anyone else thinks about that. Do I have that right Travis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Let me see if I have this right. You're not sure whether it is correct etiquette to tip the cable guy and you care enough to ask, but you are sure it is correct etiquette sleep with a 17 year old and you don't care what anyone else thinks about that. Do I have that right Travis? Whatever 2 consenting adults do in the bedroom is not a matter of etiquette. Edited February 9, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Legality and morality aren't always the same thing. It's one of those situations I'd probably give my friends a hard time about. You know, being 2 years removed from college and having a 17 year old on the side? It's just not the way our society normally works, yet alone to be a rich famous athlete and have a highschool girl on the side. As some of the jokes point out- the level of maturity should be something that turns him off. As a 24 year old he shouldn't want to hear about gym class, or how hard her algebra test is going to be. He shouldn't care about the SATs or prom. It's just such a different world and he's multiple life stages removed from it. He moved on to college and then moved on to the real world. While he talks about his next million dollar contract, his mortgage or work she's trying to decide where to go to college. The only way a guy goes for that is if he's hard up for women(not the case), is too immature for women his own age, or is on a bit of a power trip (it's easier to control a 17 yr old), or he gets off on the age and that's as far as he can legally go. It's just basic psychology that says it's abnormal, even if it's totally legal. I can't imagine a larger 7 year gap in day to day lifestyle, experience etc.... Sure it's not illegal but it's definitely not "ok." obviously he even had second thoughts if he said he'd wait til she was 18. 2nd thoughts yes, but she offered an excuse so there were no third thoughts. As you point out it is basic psychology and it is abnormal. Good summary. Do you have any thoughts on why so many people tend to leap to the defense of losers like Sanchez who sleep with children? Whatever 2 consenting adults do in the bedroom is not a matter of etiquette. This is correct. And of course you know that in reality that a starstruck 17 year old is not actually an adult despite what the laws of some backward state might say. But hey, a loophole is a loophole right? What a glorious conquest for the great Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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