timmyk12 Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-forbesqbvalues111010 1.Fitz 2.Orton 3.Vick 4.Flacco 5.Freeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 What's his cost per win? Isn't that what he is paid for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 What's his cost per win? Isn't that what he is paid for? are you responsible for the unproductive people with the company you work for ? what about the lazy guy who works in another department - should that make you look bad? Fitz has done a good job on a bad team, we have no room for error. Again it's not about this year poeple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveydanceswithwolves Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) What's his cost per win? Isn't that what he is paid for? why do people have to turn everything encouraging into a pessimistic smart ass comment. geez. we are 0-8 and everyone knows it. stop beating the dead horse and let us have something to be thankful for... like this. Edited November 11, 2010 by daveydanceswithwolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 why do people have to turn everything encouraging into a pessimistic smart ass comment. geez. we are 0-8 and everyone knows it. stop beating the dead horse and let us have something to be thankful for... like this. Because this is Two Jets Drive, where you're ridiculed as a "blind supporter" when rooting for arguably the best player (and a scrappy/underdog one at that) on your team this season. Fitz is on pace for having 26-28tds this season after missing two games but somehow Luck, because of all those nfl-caliber defenses he goes up against in the Pac-10, is already eons better than Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldstorage5 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 why do people have to turn everything encouraging into a pessimistic smart ass comment. geez. we are 0-8 and everyone knows it. stop beating the dead horse and let us have something to be thankful for... like this. Nothin Thankful about 0-8.... Thats why we are losers,.... People who say nice try, here is a trophy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 We are the bargain basement Wal-Mart of the NFL, so there is a kind of beautiful synergy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 This board is getting filled with douches. Fitz is limited but the man plays his heart out. I don't know anyone couldn't have a lot of respect for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Because this is Two Jets Drive, where you're ridiculed as a "blind supporter" when rooting for arguably the best player (and a scrappy/underdog one at that) on your team this season. Fitz is on pace for having 26-28tds this season after missing two games but somehow Luck, because of all those nfl-caliber defenses he goes up against in the Pac-10, is already eons better than Fitz. Edwards - 0 - 2 Fitz - 0 - 6 (but much more exciting in 4 of the 6 games) Sad day when a few numbers outweigh WINS......sad day indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 are you responsible for the unproductive people with the company you work for ? what about the lazy guy who works in another department - should that make you look bad? Fitz has done a good job on a bad team, we have no room for error. Again it's not about this year poeple Or better yet how do the hard workers in your department feel about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 This board is getting filled with douches. Fitz is limited but the man plays his heart out. I don't know anyone couldn't have a lot of respect for him. What do you mean, "getting"? Just like there are bandwagon fans, there are bandwagon haters. It's pretty sickening. Queue the vitriolic douches to bludgeon me with a frenetic venting of responses that they feel compelled by their own low self-esteem to write, in three, two, one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) I have been real skeptical in the past, but Fitz has won me over. If there is a great QB prospect available I want the Bills to pick one, but Fitz is capable of winning. He is playing with a crap line, and no running game on a team with no pass rush, that can't stop the run. If he was with a good team, say the Vikings or the Titans, he could be a kind of 2nd tier star. He is as good as Tony Romo, Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, really better than most. He is just out of the top ten. There are many teams that should like to have him as their starter (DALLAS for one). i would still pick a truly elite prospect, but if there isn't one available. It's Fitz. HE IS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM! Edited November 12, 2010 by Matthews' Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 This board is getting filled with douches. Fitz is limited but the man plays his heart out. I don't know anyone couldn't have a lot of respect for him. I really haven't seen many posts with people showing a lack of respect for Fitzpatrick. Pretty much across the board, everyone respects his heart and his moxie. You can point out his obvious shortcomings and still respect the guy. But don't let that get in the way of your role as Player White Knight of the Internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 why do people have to turn everything encouraging into a pessimistic smart ass comment. geez. we are 0-8 and everyone knows it. stop beating the dead horse and let us have something to be thankful for... like this. Well then stop trying to convince me Fitz is a superstar QB when in reality he is average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 What do you mean, "getting"? Just like there are bandwagon fans, there are bandwagon haters. It's pretty sickening. Queue the vitriolic douches to bludgeon me with a frenetic venting of responses that they feel compelled by their own low self-esteem to write, in three, two, one... You are absolutely right. "Bandwagon haters." I wish I had thought of that. It's made this place poisonous to read. I can understand being disappointed; I can even understand being disgusted and giving up on the team. But to come back day after day posting reflexively negative snarls, and dump on anyone who says anything even slightly positive about the team, is almost pathological. It's like a bad marriage where the husband perpetually says nasty and cynical things about his wife in public, but never gets the nerve to get a divorce. Maybe she's no prize and he has reason to be unhappy, but after a while you just want the guy to shut up or go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveydanceswithwolves Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Edwards - 0 - 2 Fitz - 0 - 6 (but much more exciting in 4 of the 6 games) Sad day when a few numbers outweigh WINS......sad day indeed. ohhhhhhh im sorry. i didnt realize the QB was the only player on the field. Edited November 12, 2010 by daveydanceswithwolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 ohhhhhhh im sorry. i didnt realize the QB was the only player on the field. It's futile to try to explain something to someone that they either refuse, are in denial about or are just too unintelligent to comprehend. You and I know that the Bills are 32nd (that's DEAD LAST) in defense, have only one interception this season and have no running game to speak of. Ryan Fitzpatrick has zero margin of error. Not even Peyton Manning nor Tom Brady could win games under the circumstances that Fitzpatrick is faced with. That's not saying that he is as good as them, but the fact is that,in the six games that he's played, he's resurrected a long dormant passing game which has been dead since 2002. He's the only reason the Bill have been close enough to win. They see our support for Ryan Fitzpatrick as confirmation that he's "the chosen one" rather than the reality of it being our excitement at the possibility that he's "the chosen one" given his very good and consistent play this season. 13 TDs in six games? Yeah, I'll take that. 250 YDS per game? Yeah, I'll take that. So they shoot back "Yeah, I'll take a win please!" And so it goes around and around and around... This team is finally watchable again. I have had a hundred times more fun watching a "go for the throat" team at 0-8 than watching a "scared to make mistakes" 7-9 team. If Fitzpatrick had started the season and this team had a merely average defense then they would be 4-4 and in contention for a playoff spot. That's how I view it. You might as well give up on the idiots. They're clearly too far gone to be able to have a rational and intelligent football conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 are they using monopoly money? ' How much do you want to pay a guy who can't win games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Edwards - 0 - 2 Fitz - 0 - 6 (but much more exciting in 4 of the 6 games) Sad day when a few numbers outweigh WINS......sad day indeed. Barry Sanders sucked, I'd take Antwoine Smith over him anyday. Edited November 12, 2010 by Matthews' Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveydanceswithwolves Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 It's futile to try to explain something to someone that they either refuse, are in denial about or are just too unintelligent to comprehend. You and I know that the Bills are 32nd (that's DEAD LAST) in defense, have only one interception this season and have no running game to speak of. Ryan Fitzpatrick has zero margin of error. Not even Peyton Manning nor Tom Brady could win games under the circumstances that Fitzpatrick is faced with. That's not saying that he is as good as them, but the fact is that,in the six games that he's played, he's resurrected a long dormant passing game which has been dead since 2002. He's the only reason the Bill have been close enough to win. They see our support for Ryan Fitzpatrick as confirmation that he's "the chosen one" rather than the reality of it being our excitement at the possibility that he's "the chosen one" given his very good and consistent play this season. 13 TDs in six games? Yeah, I'll take that. 250 YDS per game? Yeah, I'll take that. So they shoot back "Yeah, I'll take a win please!" And so it goes around and around and around... This team is finally watchable again. I have had a hundred times more fun watching a "go for the throat" team at 0-8 than watching a "scared to make mistakes" 7-9 team. If Fitzpatrick had started the season and this team had a merely average defense then they would be 4-4 and in contention for a playoff spot. That's how I view it. You might as well give up on the idiots. They're clearly too far gone to be able to have a rational and intelligent football conversation. +1 well said hombre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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