Nix speaks

[BADOLBILZ]

Dear Harvey:

 

You have a skewed version of history. Said teams drafted well for years, then succeeded after the coaching changes.

 

You are wrong, but we still love you anyways

 

Regards,

Adam

 

Ted Ginn and John Beck were good draft picks? I'm sure Mead, Doc and Biscuit all agree, but that doesn't make you right.

[Adam]

Ted Ginn and John Beck were good draft picks? I'm sure Mead, Doc and Biscuit all agree, but that doesn't make you right.

They already were pretty good when they made those mistakes- they build a great offensive line. I called ted Ginn a bust before he was drafted, same as Maybin

[GR8PRKN]

I would venture to say a few of your core guys would be Fred Jackson, Kyle Williams, and Terrence McGee.

I agree , Terrance and Fred have already recived contract extensions.... I would say Kyle is better than Good, he is one of our best,,,

[Helpmenow]

Nix is following the Butler/Nix blueprint of the Chargers, circa 2001. None of this should surprise anybody on this board. Bills West to Chargers East.

 

I know patience is low, especially with how this season began, but "the" plan worked in San Diego, and I don't see any reason why it won't work here.

Rebuilding again, that's all they do at one bills dr. How much time do you have and how much time does the owner have?

[BADOLBILZ]

They already were pretty good when they made those mistakes- they build a great offensive line. I called ted Ginn a bust before he was drafted, same as Maybin

 

Parcells drafted Long. They have one starter left on the OL from before Parcells. Incognito they picked up off Nix's scrap heap.

 

I shouldn't argue with an idiot, but I have a thing about people who have a half million posts spewing stupidity

Edited October 8, 2010 by BADOLBILZ

[Green Lightning]

that was my thought, too. but they can be criticized for going the long way about doing things.

i appreciate Nix and Gailey saying they need to re-evaluate, but they're doing so at the expense of an entire season.

 

wouldn't rule out any other moves at this point, given how they're dumping players that don't fit. i wouldn't put it past them to wrangle another draft pick before Oct. 19. however, that's only a guess at this point.

 

jw

 

 

Thanks John, I have to think both Nix and Chan are somewhat surprised at how little talent we have now that it's the real season. They can be criticized for that but it's what moves they make in the next few weeks that will be the measure of what kind of FO we really have.

[Helpmenow]

What is the purpose of keeping #97!

[robertpaul49]

Is it just me or does he sound like Ross Perot?

 

Everything that he said makes sense and was honest. There is a lot of work to do. They are building through the draft, and I think that they had in mind all along that if Trent didn't work out that they would draft a quarterback next year. I'm sure they wanted to see whether they could coach Trent up because he has looked good in spurts, but he just doesn't have the confidence anymore.

 

I'm not sure that they received any good offers for Marshawn before since people thought they would cut him because of the off the field stuff.

 

I'm curious to see how much rope they give Maybin. He is definitely a project, and he was a mistake to draft where they did. For a fifth rounder, maybe, but with all the other people available, he was a classic draft mistake. They were thinking he would turn into Jevon Kerse, which he didn't.

 

It will take time, and I have more confidence since they have a real GM now, but we'll see.

[BADOLBILZ]

Thanks John, I have to think both Nix and Chan are somewhat surprised at how little talent we have now that it's the real season. They can be criticized for that but it's what moves they make in the next few weeks that will be the measure of what kind of FO we really have.

 

It's midseason. Not the kind of options you have in the offseason. Short of cutting ties with more players that are better than their replacements, I don't know how much more impact they will have right now. They aren't dealing from strength at the trade table, that's a certainty.

 

The time to mold your team is the offseason. The Bills made themselves weaker by cutting ties with players like Owens, Incognito and Scott and being almost completely stagnant in FA(with the exception of the horrendous Cornell Green). They also lost Schobel, but we'll chalk that up to him simply not wanting to play as opposed to having requested an extra day each week at home instead of practice.

 

Nix has actively made this team worse this year. They are undeniably less talented than last season and that took some doing. Kelsay and Green are arguably(but barrely) the worst players on defense and offense, respectively and they both have Nix' stamp of approval.

[BillsVet]

Rebuilding again, that's all they do at one bills dr. How much time do you have and how much time does the owner have?

 

The entire future of the franchise rests on the shoulders of a soon to be 92 year old man. As inconvenient as it is, this is reality for Bills fans. Everything else is secondary when discussing the success or failure of the team.

[Sisyphean Bills]

The entire future of the franchise rests on the shoulders of a soon to be 92 year old man. As inconvenient as it is, this is reality for Bills fans. Everything else is secondary when discussing the success or failure of the team.

92 years old. Lockout looming. Stadium lease expiring. And, the Bills decide to play 20 exhibition games to evaluate the players that got Dick Jauron fired.

 

Sounds like a plan to me.

[Green Lightning]

It's midseason. Not the kind of options you have in the offseason. Short of cutting ties with more players that are better than their replacements, I don't know how much more impact they will have right now. They aren't dealing from strength at the trade table, that's a certainty.

 

The time to mold your team is the offseason. The Bills made themselves weaker by cutting ties with players like Owens, Incognito and Scott and being almost completely stagnant in FA(with the exception of the horrendous Cornell Green). They also lost Schobel, but we'll chalk that up to him simply not wanting to play as opposed to having requested an extra day each week at home instead of practice.

 

Nix has actively made this team worse this year. They are undeniably less talented than last season and that took some doing. Kelsay and Green are arguably(but barrely) the worst players on defense and offense, respectively and they both have Nix' stamp of approval.

 

What you say is mostly true and as I noted they deserve some criticism for it. But I disagree that little can be done in the time we're in. It's true that the replacements are not as good as the present starters. But that's just for now. They have upside the starters don't have and need to play to improve. I'd move Stroud, Whitner and others to capture some picks and lose Green and a few others and play the rooks. Don't lose 10 to 12 games with vets and has-beens, play your draft picks and be better for it next year.

Edited October 8, 2010 by Green Lightning

[spartacus]

Thanks John for the intel.  I stand corrected in my assertion that the team responded to Sullivan's column.

 

 

 

 

Correction may not be necessary

hard to believe that Sully's column was not written the day before and leaked to the Bills since it was on-line early in the morning

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kurt Warner]

Yes, what is frustrating is Nix doesn't begin to predict how long the rebuild will take. I get that we need to rebuild but we've been hearing that for years. He says he's gonna get there but IMO they already wasted nine months by not knowing what any analyst or serious fan knew. They wasted a lot of time coming to obvious conclusions. They better pick up the pace. Just because you are rebuilding doesn't mean you are making progress. Look at Detroit who has been horrific for many years and may finally be making legitimate improvement. Please tell me we aren't spiraling into that!

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

92 years old. Lockout looming. Stadium lease expiring. And, the Bills decide to play 20 exhibition games to evaluate the players that got Dick Jauron fired.

 

Sounds like a plan to me.

 

Well said.

 

I don't think any of the new regime really spent much time studying the players they had in the off-season. It's like they're now learning about them on the fly, when they could have been looking at thousands of hours of film.

 

It also doesn't excuse why none of their draft picks are contributing.

 

Oh, but, let's stay the course....right to 2-14.

[Fixxxer]

nope, Maybin is no Merriman. Merriman came last in the process by way of one of the picks acquired in the Manning trade.

 

Not sure why you would be "sick" about the team turning it's ways around? We'd be LUCKY to have the success the Chargers have had over the last few years, winning their division, making the playoffs. To the point that they fired Marty because their main worry was winning in the playoffs! Can you imagine THAT being our biggest problem?!?!

 

Also, not to push people any closer to the ledge, but in 2002 and 2003 the Chargers used the #5 and #15 overall picks on...

 

CORNERBACKS!

 

Including our own Drayton Florence. Amazing how few games they won with like Seau, Rodney "Late elbow" Harrison and Jamal Williams on that defense. Butler and Co. did a great job turning around that franchise. The were right in keeping AJ Smith as the head honcho, but damn that guy is a hard-ass.

[Adam]

The fact is that watching film of guys like Edwards tells nothing. Nix, Gailey and co. needed time to see him live in THEIR system, to properly evaluate him. Anyone who is rational knew that we were going to have a top five pick this year.

 

We didn't have a QB, OL or WR's and we were switching from an undersized 4-3 to a 3-4 defense. It takes time to get players. The bashing is getting to the level that Jauron was bashed for losing without good players.

 

I perdict if there is a season next year, we will have a QB that we take with the first pick and will win 4-5 games, behind terrible OL/DL that are somewhat better from this year. The following year, we probably get near .500 and it takes off from there.

 

Spiller was a great pick, because he is really the only playmaker we have on the roster- Lynch and Jackson are nice players that will get you 4 yards a pop if there is blocking- which is very important too, but you need guys who will make plays, unless you want just a handful of wins per year.

[reddogblitz]

I read the article and am disappointed and feel duped.

 

I remember when Buddy was hired he said we "were close" and was going to get us there. Now he says it's a long slow re building process "through the draft". Now we're talking 3 or 4 years.

 

He also said he was going to bring in a 4th QB to "compete with these guys" and brings in a 7th round draft choice who from what we saw in pre season is no where near prime time.

 

In the draft we pick at the #9 pick a guy that does what we already do well, run the football and run back Kickoffs.

 

Coach Gailey said he was going to try real hard to win to establish a winning attitude here. Then he start Marshawn for 3 weeks to just to show him off so we can trade him for peanuts even though he knew he had no future in buffalo. And Trent "to see" if he can do anything. He had 34 games on film that could have told him that. These guys live off film and can't answer anything until they "watch the tape" so I don't buy that they couldn't tell from the game tapes they had.

 

It's all starting to make sense now. Lose on purpose to get a high draft next year.

 

So we want to be like San Diego. When was the last time they went to the Super Bowl? They're competitive, that's cool I guess.

 

I had such high hopes for these guys and they may be right. I hope so, but it's going to be long 3 or 4 years and there's no guarantee it will work.

 

Philadelphia Eagles never had to go through this and have remained good. The Stealer haven't had to. The Giants haven't bottomed out. The Bears and packers have either been good or remained competitive for at lest 10 years. Vikings were able to build on the talent they had to become good. I can't think of too many that have made it work. San Diego sortof. The Colts about 13 years ago. Anyone else? The Lions have been doing it for at least 12 years. they're 0-4 just like us. Chiefs have been at for a while. they're 3-0, but then again so were we in 2008 and Denver in 2009.

 

Oh well, I'll believe it works when the wins start to roll in.

Edited October 8, 2010 by reddogblitz

[Punch]

Correction may not be necessary

hard to believe that Sully's column was not written the day before and leaked to the Bills since it was on-line early in the morning

 

Huh? Considering that John Wawrow stated that he was informed of Thursday's presser at 6pm Wednesday and the Sully piece was posted online at 11:12pm Wednesday I'm not sure what you mean. Furthermore, who would leak it to the Bills and for what purpose?

 

Inquiring minds.

Edited October 8, 2010 by Punch

[thewildrabbit]

Dear Harvey:

 

You have a skewed version of history. Said teams drafted well for years, then succeeded after the coaching changes.

You are wrong, but we still love you anyways

 

Regards,

Adam

No, you are delusional and make things up to suit your views

 

Where do you guys get this stuff from... the Miami Dolphins went 1-15 and they were bad only because of bad coaching?.... that the team was filled with great players because they had great drafts previous to the bad coach? What a bunch of horseshit!

 

But Buffalo's problem is just the opposite of the Dolphins-Ravens-Falcons, they have fantastic coaches and bad players? Dude, you seriously need to get a grip on reality, Chan Gailey sucks, AVP and even Turk Schonert were better at game planning and running the Bills offense the last two years. This guy was brought in to specifically improve the offense...he made it worse!