Lenigmusx Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) It was clear from his post game press conference that I think he sent a message. If Edwards can't fix the "D" before the bye week not only do I forsee more mid-season cuts but perhaps a new defensive coordinator. Chan was truly disgusted with this team after today. Edited October 3, 2010 by Lenigmusx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 That and a buck will buy you a cup of coffee. Show me the baby -- stillbirth 0-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 LMAO fire the DC? How about you get him some friggin talent instead of strapping him with a bunch of clowns that couldn't start for another team? This front 7 from top to bottom is the worst in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) LMAO fire the DC? How about you get him some friggin talent instead of strapping him with a bunch of clowns that couldn't start for another team? This front 7 from top to bottom is the worst in football. I agree, it is hard to blame the DC when they are trying to play a 3-4 defense with no NT and only 1 starting-caliber NFL LB. Oh, I forgot to mention that they have a backup DT trying to be a starting DE (Spencer Johnson). Edited October 3, 2010 by OldTimer1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPhan Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 It was clear from his post game press conference that I think he sent a message. If Edwards can't fix the "D" before the bye week not only do I forsee more mid-season cuts but perhaps a new defensive coordinator. Chan was truly disgusted with this team after today. And who gets to be truly disgusted with Chan's offense? Buddy "I'm not the smartest guy in the room" Nix?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 To me, there are five almost equal elements that go into how well your defense plays: 1] Pure talent 2] Scheme and coaching/preparation 3] In game play calling and adjustments 4] Luck, bounces. officiating 5] Your own offense and the position/predicament they put you in. Edwards was not given much too work with #1, which is out of his control. You usually make your own luck #4, both good and bad by your play. He has not been helped by the offense much at all in #5, which is out of his control. However, the two things he does have some control over, #2 and #3, he has been terrible at. It was an uninspired choice by Gailey, with Edwards having a decent but not stellar coaching background and career. There was little in his history that would make anyone believe he would be an excellent coordinator. Right now, he looks like a bad choice who is in over his head, regardless of the lesser talent he has been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 It is hard not seeing edwards being the scap goat after the season if this continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 It is hard not seeing edwards being the scap goat after the season if this continues Someone has to be. We already sacrificed Trent. Modrak will hopefully be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 It is hard not seeing edwards being the scap goat after the season if this continues McKelvin getting burned twice, and byrd trying to pick up that fumble instead of just falling on it showed me a team that wasn't coached all that well today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllDayADay Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Very fair point. I mean, this all goes back to the top though. In reality, the decision to hire Chan Gailey and Buddy Nix were made from the some cloth as what you just said. Uninspired choices who have had decent, albeit not stellar careers. I mean, this is where Bills fans have grown too accustom to consciously ignoring the reality of the decisions that come down from arguably one of the top 5 WORST ownerships ever to have a position in the NFL (I will argue this w/ whoever wants a piece, the glory years were Bill Polian's, not Ralph's). Jauron stars 4-0 and we convince ourselves that he might just be the right guy (way wrong). Russ Brandon gets put in place as GM and we convince ourselves that it was Modrak making the decisions all along anyways, so Brandon being GM really isn't a big deal (way wrong). Gailey is hired and after much grousing, we all convince ourselves that he is the right guy to turn around our lackluster offense because he can "fit schemes to his player's strengths" (wrong). Or Nix, a guy whose eye for talent has been overshadowed by the bosses he has worked for. This guy isn't a big name, but he knows a football player when he sees one (Maybe, but Cornell Green says otherwise). The point is, its about time that Bills fans start dealing with reality. We, the fans, are collectively being fleeced by this franchise as Ralph and the rest of his cronies line their pockets before the inevitable sale. I'm telling you, his management decisions are akin to a CEO of a company liquidating his/her shares before it goes under but publicly telling everyone that everything is going to be all right. Tell me I'm dramatic. Thats fine. But its true. And now I feel better. Youre dramatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 To me, there are five almost equal elements that go into how well your defense plays: 1] Pure talent 2] Scheme and coaching/preparation 3] In game play calling and adjustments 4] Luck, bounces. officiating 5] Your own offense and the position/predicament they put you in. Edwards was not given much too work with #1, which is out of his control. You usually make your own luck #4, both good and bad by your play. He has not been helped by the offense much at all in #5, which is out of his control. However, the two things he does have some control over, #2 and #3, he has been terrible at. It was an uninspired choice by Gailey, with Edwards having a decent but not stellar coaching background and career. There was little in his history that would make anyone believe he would be an excellent coordinator. Right now, he looks like a bad choice who is in over his head, regardless of the lesser talent he has been given. Kelly you have nailed this one. A VERY uninspired choice when he was hired. The scheme stinks and does nothing to compliment his players. I can't say that the 3-4 has been a failure because 3/4 of the time we are not in it. There is no pass rush. We are last in the league in stopping third down conversions. The Jets had holes 5 yards wide to run in. I'm sick of it. We haven't stopped the run since Pat Williams left.! turnover in 4 games. The personnwel is crap but Edwards is worse. He should be fired tomorrow and let Sanders see what he can do. We should be angling right now to hire John Fox when he gets fired at the end of the year. But of course Ralph won't pay him. This team neeeds a superstar defensive coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) Gailey should put himself on the hotseat. Nix,and Brandon should be there with him. Have we had any good years with Brandon? They sat idle during the offseason doing nothing to improve the team. Now they want to put people on the hotseat???? I gave Nix and Gailey the benefit of the doubt during the offseason. I thought they could turn the team from a 6-10 team to an 8-8 maybe 9-7 team. Now we are the worst team in the league. An azzwhipping from Detroit will make it official and crush any hope I have left in this team. Dick Jauron kept us more respectible (I didn't think that was possible). Maybe Nix and Gailey's ego made them feel that they could win with the existing team. It seems as though they are in plan B mode without a plan. This is the first time since the 80's where I honestly don't know if we will win a game. How else do you end a week that starts out by giving one of your most below average players a huge pay raise. Sometimes it takes effort to suck and by what we have seen this week, we now know they are trying to secure mediocrity for the future. Edited October 4, 2010 by VADC Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 To me, there are five almost equal elements that go into how well your defense plays: 1] Pure talent 2] Scheme and coaching/preparation 3] In game play calling and adjustments 4] Luck, bounces. officiating 5] Your own offense and the position/predicament they put you in. Edwards was not given much too work with #1, which is out of his control. You usually make your own luck #4, both good and bad by your play. He has not been helped by the offense much at all in #5, which is out of his control. However, the two things he does have some control over, #2 and #3, he has been terrible at. It was an uninspired choice by Gailey, with Edwards having a decent but not stellar coaching background and career. There was little in his history that would make anyone believe he would be an excellent coordinator. Right now, he looks like a bad choice who is in over his head, regardless of the lesser talent he has been given. This. Edwards and his staff have made a bad defense look like the worst one in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 It was clear from his post game press conference that I think he sent a message. If Edwards can't fix the "D" before the bye week not only do I forsee more mid-season cuts but perhaps a new defensive coordinator. Chan was truly disgusted with this team after today. Who hired Edwards in the first place? That is the dumb ass who needs to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 However, the two things he does have some control over, #2 and #3, he has been terrible at. Well, ain't that what a DC does???? Schemes and adjustments? You can't get lit up for 34-38-38 the last three games and not put the blame squarley on the shoulders of the DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS 56 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 LMAO fire the DC? How about you get him some friggin talent instead of strapping him with a bunch of clowns that couldn't start for another team? This front 7 from top to bottom is the worst in football. great observation. All the planning in the world will not overcome a lack of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplusfool Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 McKelvin getting burned twice, and byrd trying to pick up that fumble instead of just falling on it showed me a team that wasn't coached all that well today. I am not a huge fan of Edwards or the Bills attempt at a 3-4, but I can't say that this proves the team is not well coached. You have never seen a player other than Byrd (who has been almost non existent this year) even on a good team not do this ? Players learn this concept in Pee wee football. He tried to make a play, it didn't happen. McKelvin biting on a pump fake, or plain just getting burned, your right, I have never seen this happen on a good coached team. /sarcasm off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 To me, there are five almost equal elements that go into how well your defense plays: 1] Pure talent 2] Scheme and coaching/preparation 3] In game play calling and adjustments 4] Luck, bounces. officiating 5] Your own offense and the position/predicament they put you in. Edwards was not given much too work with #1, which is out of his control. You usually make your own luck #4, both good and bad by your play. He has not been helped by the offense much at all in #5, which is out of his control. However, the two things he does have some control over, #2 and #3, he has been terrible at. It was an uninspired choice by Gailey, with Edwards having a decent but not stellar coaching background and career. There was little in his history that would make anyone believe he would be an excellent coordinator. Right now, he looks like a bad choice who is in over his head, regardless of the lesser talent he has been given. Great post, Dog. He's no Perry Fewell, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPCinSYR..NY Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 by the way...the just gave kelsy an extension so rb's can run right by him and make him look like aa pop warner player for another 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplusfool Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 LMAO fire the DC? How about you get him some friggin talent instead of strapping him with a bunch of clowns that couldn't start for another team? This front 7 from top to bottom is the worst in football. I agree, I don't think I have ever seen a worse looking front 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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