Merle Haggard Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) My thoughts regarding our stadium situation is to build a state of the art complex on the American side of the mighty Niagara Falls. The era of the Ralph is quickly coming to an end. It's been a heckuva ride, but change is not necessarily a bad thing. Butt it up next to the falls, give it a retractable roof, with the understanding it stays open for all Bills' games. It would be a wonderful venue in a popular setting, instantly giving the wonderful Niagara area a much needed shot in the arm. Thoughts? Edited August 31, 2010 by Merle Haggard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 No. Get a new owner, hire a top notch staff, overpay for a couple stars while drafting really well and get this team back to being a winner for a few years before ever thinking of a new stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Haggard Posted August 31, 2010 Author Share Posted August 31, 2010 No. Get a new owner, hire a top notch staff, overpay for a couple stars while drafting really well and get this team back to being a winner for a few years before ever thinking of a new stadium No. Build it and "they will come". LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Hendrickson Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 My thoughts regarding our stadium situation is to build a state of the art complex on the American side of the mighty Niagara Falls. The era of the Ralph is quickly coming to an end. It's been a heckuva ride, but change is not necessarily a bad thing. Butt it up next to the falls, give it a retractable roof, with the understanding it stays open for all Bills' games. It would be a wonderful venue in a popular setting, instantly giving the wonderful Niagara area a much needed shot in the arm. Thoughts? I am so sick of hearing calls to built a stadium near the Falls. I don't think having a stadium in the the Niagra Falls area makes any sence at all. Economic shot in the arm? Wake up, the whole fricken reagion needs a shot in the arm and frankly who gives a crap about a tourist trap on the edge of a big cliff. You can argue that its closer for Canadiam Fans, but really if you look at the post game blotter, they seem to only show up to drink their a**es off, mouth off to an OP copper and get arrested. I feel that the heart of Bills Country is in the whole of western NYS including Syracuse and as far south as Erie, PA. If a new stadium is built, then put it between Rochacha and Buffalo if a viable space is not available in downtown Buffalo. Why not clean up a brownfield or 2 and throw it on the shores of Lake Erie just south of the city. First of all, at the moment I don't think we need another stadium. The Ralph is great. Seats are still affordable Great sight lines CHEAP parking (Go to Foxboro if you think you're paying to much) Very lax tailgating rules The stadium is in the snow belt (Though it rarely snows during games, instead we get weather like the torent that ripped off the lake during the Griants games a few years back, god that was awesome) Easy access to and from the stadium ITS NOT A DOME The last thing Buffalo needs is a DOME. Weather is our friend and should be used to our advantage. Remember the Dolphins beat us in our DOME home game in Toronto. Its the HOME OF THE BILLS! get used to it and quit pining over some half brained plan to save Niagra Falls, the American side sucks and will for the next thousand years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I am so sick of hearing calls to built a stadium near the Falls. I don't think having a stadium in the the Niagra Falls area makes any sence at all. Economic shot in the arm? Wake up, the whole fricken reagion needs a shot in the arm and frankly who gives a crap about a tourist trap on the edge of a big cliff. You can argue that its closer for Canadiam Fans, but really if you look at the post game blotter, they seem to only show up to drink their a**es off, mouth off to an OP copper and get arrested. I feel that the heart of Bills Country is in the whole of western NYS including Syracuse and as far south as Erie, PA. If a new stadium is built, then put it between Rochacha and Buffalo if a viable space is not available in downtown Buffalo. Why not clean up a brownfield or 2 and throw it on the shores of Lake Erie just south of the city. First of all, at the moment I don't think we need another stadium. The Ralph is great. Seats are still affordable Great sight lines CHEAP parking (Go to Foxboro if you think you're paying to much) Very lax tailgating rules The stadium is in the snow belt (Though it rarely snows during games, instead we get weather like the torent that ripped off the lake during the Griants games a few years back, god that was awesome) Easy access to and from the stadium ITS NOT A DOME The last thing Buffalo needs is a DOME. Weather is our friend and should be used to our advantage. Remember the Dolphins beat us in our DOME home game in Toronto. Its the HOME OF THE BILLS! get used to it and quit pining over some half brained plan to save Niagra Falls, the American side sucks and will for the next thousand years I was at that Giants game, let's just say the snow in the fourth quarter was a relief. As for the Stadium, i agree that we're okay for right now, but if possible our attention should shift to underdeveloped parts of downtown to improve Buffalo's image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 No way it will end up in The Falls. The politics are all wrong. Niagara County is umm.... well it's ......not very well run. Look at the city of Niagara Fall, one of the 7 Wonders of the World and it seems impossible to even keep a restaurant open. Erie CO, thoughnot exactly well run, is way ahead, and has way more power financially. Niagara Co. doesn't deserve to house an NFL team. Nagunnappen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Great idea get the dems and reps with the silver shovels out.everyone with watch them break ground and clap and take credit for the stadium.the next thing on the list is a 5 year study group at 5 million a year of taxpayer money. After that the union steps in need I say more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Great idea get the dems and reps with the silver shovels out.everyone with watch them break ground and clap and take credit for the stadium.the next thing on the list is a 5 year study group at 5 million a year of taxpayer money. After that the union steps in need I say more. Wet, slippery footballs, soggy fans, but a nice view of the falls, awesome Seriously, I love the idea of building a dome stadium near the falls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 It may have changed but the last time I was at the American side of Niagara Falls is an absolute disgrace. One of the most amazing sites in North America and you had to drive through a wasteland to get to it. The only thing that would save that size of the falls would be a fleet of bulldozers and about 300 years of natural evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I say put it on Goat Island! I haven't been to NF in probably 8 years, but I was on the American side last year and was pretty surprised to see the growth on the Canadian side. Clearly there's potential for tourism in the area - but I doubt the WNY government will get it together to grow the area... I'd go for a stadium in the falls, but the whole US side needs a revamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Parking may be a bit of a snafu and I believe something like this would not sit well with environmentalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 My thoughts regarding our stadium situation is to build a state of the art complex on the American side of the mighty Niagara Falls. The era of the Ralph is quickly coming to an end. It's been a heckuva ride, but change is not necessarily a bad thing. Butt it up next to the falls, give it a retractable roof, with the understanding it stays open for all Bills' games. It would be a wonderful venue in a popular setting, instantly giving the wonderful Niagara area a much needed shot in the arm. Thoughts? Would give distraught fans the chance to jump after games too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 It may have changed but the last time I was at the American side of Niagara Falls is an absolute disgrace. One of the most amazing sites in North America and you had to drive through a wasteland to get to it. The only thing that would save that size of the falls would be a fleet of bulldozers and about 300 years of natural evolution. Oh, yeah, there's that too. Those bridges over Grand Island are a freaking mess - guess we'll need to fix that before NF grows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 ...and frankly who gives a crap about a tourist trap on the edge of a big cliff. Tourists. The idea is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Man Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) The only way a stadium will be built in Niagara Falls is if it goes up on the Canadian side. Naturally, Niagara County would pay for it. Edited August 31, 2010 by Wing Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 drunken Bills fans + proximity to Niagara Falls = recipe for disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Grid Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) PUT IT DOWNTOWN! Buffalo is a ghost town, use the stadium and new development to draw people back to the downtown. In almost every major city, save Detroit, people are flocking back into cities and redevelopment has helped to greatly improve stagnating downtown economies...you get young people out of the burbs and into the cities they pay taxes and pump money into the cities and help spur a cycle of growth. Give the next owner 20 square blocks, let them develop it using the modern stadium model of placing a stadium, retail, residential, and business complexes all together. Using smaller arenas and less development this formula has been used to perfection in cities like Milwaukee and on a larger scale in Indianapollis. In Cleveland their stadiums help to give development a rock to cling on and have led to larger redevlopment of the downtown than could have been expected with their shrinking population. Building it near the falls would be great, and make the stadium a spectacle, but Buffalo again would get little in the bargain. Put it downtown use the stadium and the team to Buffalo's best advantage. Edited August 31, 2010 by DC Grid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Downtown would be great... the I-190 backed up for miles... just the cluster**** of it all would be worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Haggard Posted August 31, 2010 Author Share Posted August 31, 2010 Tourists. The idea is a good one. Thanks guy. Niagara Falls is a natural draw. We show exploit the opportunity and at the same time help revitalize the entire area. Building it near the falls would be great, and make the stadium a spectacle, but Buffalo again would get little in the bargain. Put it downtown use the stadium and the team to Buffalo's best advantage. I respectfully disagree my friend. You "fix" the decaying Niagara side and the whole region, including Buffalo, begin to revitalize. Why you say? The falls is a 7th wonder yet the Niagara side is a slum. The tourist drive right through it and Buffalo. Give them a reason to stop and spend their buckeros. The stadium I vision is a multi purpose type with a retractable roof and is a grand as the falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Oh man, this thread headline made me laugh out loud! Yes, I agree, the Bills new stadium should be precariously perched atop the falls. With all of the good luck this organization has had, what could go wrong?? I'm so into this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poznasty51 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Leave it where it is. The tailgating atmosphere at the ralph draws a lot from beer swilling southern ontario natives. I have swilled many a beers with them, and they love the tailgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConradDobler Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 drunken Bills fans + another heartbreaking loss + proximity to Niagara Falls = recipe for disaster Fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 If we wait a few hundred thousand years, the falls will have eroded all the way to the Peace Bridge. Then they could build the stadium in downtown Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinVT Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Yes, build it in the shape of a barrel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I was at the Bengals/Bills game last weekend. Why in the world do we need a new stadium? The one we have is perfectly fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 The stadium I vision is a multi purpose type with a retractable roof and is a grand as the falls. And a huge wall of windows looking right at the Falls. Can you imagine sitting in there watching the game, you turn your head and there's the Falls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Haggard Posted August 31, 2010 Author Share Posted August 31, 2010 And a huge wall of windows looking right at the Falls. Can you imagine sitting in there watching the game, you turn your head and there's the Falls? Fantastic thought! There is no reason not to take full advantage of such a wonderful backdrop which would attract folks from around the world. We would be the envy of the league. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Fantastic thought! There is no reason not to take full advantage of such a wonderful backdrop which would attract folks from around the world. We would be the envy of the league. Fact. Are you from, and or live in Naigara County? I love Niagara Fall (the attraction, not the city). I consider it to be the most neglected asset in the Buffalo area. It has the potential to be the Las Vegas of the East. Problem is, it is CORRUPT. It really is a shame. There is no way that Erie County would just let the Bills walk over to Niagara County. The politicians there wouldn't know how to deal with the NFL anyway, and would be considered complete clowns (yes, moreso than the Erie County politicians). Know what would be an incredible boost to both areas? If the State redistricted Niagara Falls into Erie County. Then something good might happen. Alas, it 's all a pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 And a huge wall of windows looking right at the Falls. Can you imagine sitting in there watching the game, you turn your head and there's the Falls? I'm afraid that in order to get that kind of view you'd have to build it on the Canadian side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) I am so sick of hearing calls to built a stadium near the Falls. I don't think having a stadium in the the Niagra Falls area makes any sence at all. Economic shot in the arm? Wake up, the whole fricken reagion needs a shot in the arm and frankly who gives a crap about a tourist trap on the edge of a big cliff. You can argue that its closer for Canadiam Fans, but really if you look at the post game blotter, they seem to only show up to drink their a**es off, mouth off to an OP copper and get arrested. I feel that the heart of Bills Country is in the whole of western NYS including Syracuse and as far south as Erie, PA. If a new stadium is built, then put it between Rochacha and Buffalo if a viable space is not available in downtown Buffalo. Why not clean up a brownfield or 2 and throw it on the shores of Lake Erie just south of the city. First of all, at the moment I don't think we need another stadium. The Ralph is great. Seats are still affordable Great sight lines CHEAP parking (Go to Foxboro if you think you're paying to much) Very lax tailgating rules The stadium is in the snow belt (Though it rarely snows during games, instead we get weather like the torent that ripped off the lake during the Griants games a few years back, god that was awesome) Easy access to and from the stadium ITS NOT A DOME The last thing Buffalo needs is a DOME. Weather is our friend and should be used to our advantage. Remember the Dolphins beat us in our DOME home game in Toronto. Its the HOME OF THE BILLS! get used to it and quit pining over some half brained plan to save Niagra Falls, the American side sucks and will for the next thousand years No offense, but when was the last time you can remember the weather aiding the Bill's in a win? It doesn't happen, and with the influx of talent coming from the West Coast and South, most players hate the idea of playing in 35mph wind and snow/sleet/rain. Edited September 1, 2010 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 My thoughts regarding our stadium situation is to build a state of the art complex on the American side of the mighty Niagara Falls. The era of the Ralph is quickly coming to an end. It's been a heckuva ride, but change is not necessarily a bad thing. Butt it up next to the falls, give it a retractable roof, with the understanding it stays open for all Bills' games. It would be a wonderful venue in a popular setting, instantly giving the wonderful Niagara area a much needed shot in the arm. Thoughts? Yeah right ... niagara falls can't even build a freaking hot dog stand downtown ... we're gonna build a stadium ... yeah, right ... ain't gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Wet, slippery footballs, soggy fans, but a nice view of the falls, awesome While I might agree that tat some distant point in the future that building a new stadium in the falls is a cool idea - please let it not be a dome. Buffalo is about weather. Let GB build a dome first. Football is meant to be played in the elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPhan Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 My thoughts regarding our stadium situation is to...Butt it up next to the falls, give it a retractable roof, with the understanding it stays open for all Bills' games...Thoughts? My first thought is: why on earth spend all that money for a retractable roof, and then have "an understanding" it stays open for all Bills' games?? Bill Polian won a SB recently with the Indy Colts, and they certainly don't have "an understanding" that their retractable roof stays open for all Colts games in their state of the art palace they call Lucas Oil Stadium. So Indianapolis, a "dome team" since they stole the real Colts from Baltimore back in 1984, now has a SB victory with their Colts, one more then our beloved open air forever stadium Bills have. In addition to that, Indy also has their own new dome with retractable roof, which we Bills fans can only dream about on blogs like this one. What would you say to Colts' fans, that they are wimps, and that watching Peyton Manning break Favre's records some day in perfect conditions his entire career, was "bogus" because he never had to throw into 50 MPH wind and blizzards?? Sorry, but if your stadium was built on the foot of the great Niagara, and it had a roof that opened and closed, as a Bills fan I would demand that thing be closed for any bad weather games! My next thought is: the only way any new stadium gets built anywhere in WNY for the Buffalo Bills, is if some wealthy group purchases the team after Ralph dies by out bidding any and every other group from out of town. Anybody want to lay odds on that actually happening, despite Jim Kelly's best intentions?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 How is it QUICKLY coming to an end? I've been suffering for years and know of no end in immediate sight. Did Ralph go to the hosibol today, or are you just a dummmy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
show_me_the_baby Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 My thoughts regarding our stadium situation is to build a state of the art complex on the American side of the mighty Niagara Falls. The era of the Ralph is quickly coming to an end. It's been a heckuva ride, but change is not necessarily a bad thing. Butt it up next to the falls, give it a retractable roof, with the understanding it stays open for all Bills' games. It would be a wonderful venue in a popular setting, instantly giving the wonderful Niagara area a much needed shot in the arm. Thoughts? Im actually an architect and I happen to love the idea of a falls stadium. It would be impossible to built it very close to the actual falls though, if that is what you mean. However, something that would allow a vista to the horseshoe through a somewhat open end of the stadium (think qwest field with its view to downtown Seattle) would be amazing. Close enough to hear the rumble of the falls, would there be a better place to play Bills football?? It would instantly be a sports complex known on the world stage (of course it would have to be well designed though). Unfortunately, there are way too many bureaucrats in WNY and not enough people with vision to pull it off. But its a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) Why not put it next to the Falls? Because even the most beautiful stadium is ugly? Edited September 1, 2010 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Who here works @ the Goodwill? How about the overnight shift at a gas station? High school janitors raise yer hands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Let's ruin the Falls by putting a huge stadium next to it? No thanks. The Falls will be around long after the Bills are a memory. Leave the Canadian view untarnished. And the American side has zero view anyways. Want to build it within walking distance in the NF slums? No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 My thoughts regarding our stadium situation is to build a state of the art complex on the American side of the mighty Niagara Falls. The era of the Ralph is quickly coming to an end. It's been a heckuva ride, but change is not necessarily a bad thing. Butt it up next to the falls, give it a retractable roof, with the understanding it stays open for all Bills' games. It would be a wonderful venue in a popular setting, instantly giving the wonderful Niagara area a much needed shot in the arm. Thoughts? Put it next to the Falls, then if the Bills play like they have for the past 10 years, someone can just push them over the falls and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 The idea isn't half bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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