Skoobydum Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 "I hope it's Trent," Kelly said on Friday at Coca-Cola Field for Hunter's Hope Night for the Buffalo Bisons game that was called due to poor field conditions. "I know Trent, I've known him for a couple of years and I think everyone hopes that one guy will step up." Kelly, 50, has apparently changed his tune from last November when he told USA Today that while he admires Edwards, he believed it was time for the team to move on. "I like Trent personally," Kelly told USA Today. "He works hard. But he's had three years. It's time to find somebody who is the future of the Buffalo Bills. If I'm the owner, that's what I'm thinking." http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/07/09/1108...or-edwards.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoobydum Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Gailey said after the team's minicamp last month that there would be a "pecking order" for the start of camp, and didn't reveal at the close of the camp where the team's three quarterbacks — Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Brian Brohm — stand. Kelly said Edwards has the potential to emerge as the starter. "He's a good kid and he works hard," Kelly continued. "He's got the ability but I hope he gets in a system and has some healthy guys in front of him. It's unfair to judge someone to totally over the season when a guy has an offensive scheme that I was mind-boggled that they stayed with." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I don't think it takes much to boggle ol' Jimbo's mind. EDIT: I nominate "mind-boggled" as the catchphrase of 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 mind-bottling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 First Kelly bashes Trent by criticizing Cali QB's playing in Buffalo. Now he hopes Edwards starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 First Kelly bashes Trent by criticizing Cali QB's playing in Buffalo. Now he hopes Edwards starts. That was when he wanted someone new brought in. Since no one was brought in, Trent remains the best of a bad bunch (at least in Kelly's estimation, as well as mine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 First Kelly bashes Trent by criticizing Cali QB's playing in Buffalo. Now he hopes Edwards starts. Not to mention throwing his old friend, Alex Van Pelt under the bus! Kelly works for the Bills, in some capacity. I have to think, if he is now giving his support to Trent, he knows something that we don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 "I hope it's Trent," Kelly said on Friday at Coca-Cola Field for Hunter's Hope Night for the Buffalo Bisons game that was called due to poor field conditions. "I know Trent, I've known him for a couple of years and I think everyone hopes that one guy will step up." Kelly, 50, has apparently changed his tune from last November when he told USA Today that while he admires Edwards, he believed it was time for the team to move on. "I like Trent personally," Kelly told USA Today. "He works hard. But he's had three years. It's time to find somebody who is the future of the Buffalo Bills. If I'm the owner, that's what I'm thinking." http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/07/09/1108...or-edwards.html Kelly just figures using reverse psychology on the Bills HC, Chan Gailey may get better results, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Not to mention throwing his old friend, Alex Van Pelt under the bus! Kelly works for the Bills, in some capacity. I have to think, if he is now giving his support to Trent, he knows something that we don't know... .....or crazy dingo is right. Only one thing can be going on here---that's right, chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Time for a portion of Jim's brain to be sent to West Virginia, where a diagnosis is waiting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Dude can still reload his elephant gun in 3.4 seconds, though. Great for those canned hunts he's so proud of. But seriously, what did we expect? He's getting paid to do team PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsRUs Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 LOL. Jim Kelly must have seen Trent's faster than a gunslinger video on you tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 There has never been a worse stretch by any QB in the NFL, as far as I can recall, than the one endured by Edwards last season. It was painful to watch. The uncertainty, the fear, the loss of whatever - confidence, guts... whatever makes a QB capable of making good decisions even under hard situations. But, we have to agree that the conditions he landed in last year were bad, that many a QB would have floundered there. Was it schemes, play calling, WR's not getting open, O-line not protecting - all of it combined to make Edwards season bad. Yet, the way he dealt with it all was not a good sign, in my opinion. Maybe he was coached to dump the ball off a lot more than we might believe... maybe he can come back to the form he was in before the concussion. Because it was night and day difference there. He was the cool QB who made smart decisions, who led the team from behind, who was an up-and-coming franchise QB. If Gailey can somehow wipe away the negative consequences of Edwards performance last year and bring onto the field this season the Edwards of old, then we could have a wild-card team. Can he come back from it? With the defense we have going into this season, and our RB's, and the new dynamic at our WR positions - I think we've got speed there like the super bowl Rams had, not even kidding - Parrish, Jackson, Easley, Hardy, Evans, and a T.E. in Nelson - all who have what? 4.3 - 4.4 speed. Then our undrafted rookies and Stevie Johnson are looking nice, too. If Edwards could manage the games, keep the chains moving, allow the running game to open up, and then hit some of our fast recievers down field for big chunks of yardage - that would be ideal. That's hoping Edwards returns to form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 He's getting paid to do team PR. Yes - so either Kelly has the inside scoop on this (likely) or he's an incurable loose cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 "Maybe he was coached to dump the ball off a lot more than we might believe... " Anybody remember the press conference after a loss when TE said in a moment of frustration, "I just do what the coaches tell me to do." I think "Captain Checkdown" as he's been labeled was by design...DJ's design...not his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplusfool Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 "Maybe he was coached to dump the ball off a lot more than we might believe... " Anybody remember the press conference after a loss when TE said in a moment of frustration, "I just do what the coaches tell me to do." I think "Captain Checkdown" as he's been labeled was by design...DJ's design...not his. Or he was not accepting his fair share of the blame. He is very good at not accepting any blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Or he was not accepting his fair share of the blame. He is very good at not accepting any blame. I had considered that, but now that Kelly has stated the offensive scheme stunk, I think the handwriting is on the wall. What better way to conceal a dysfunctional system than to instruct your QB to check down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Trent Edwards has Steve Blass Disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Northern Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Yes - so either Kelly has the inside scoop on this (likely) or he's an incurable loose cannon. the writing has been on the wall since the draft. Yod think that people who post on message boards would be a bit more attuned to the way the team communicates through the Buffalo News and other house organs. Now Jimbo is just confirming what anyone who closely follows the team has known for three months: barrng a remarkable breakut camp by Brohm or a total meltdown by Trent, Edwards is the starter in 2010. Get behind him. Th guy's got skills. We'll never know how much of 2009 was him and how much was the impossible position he was places in if we don't gve him a chance under a sold offensive mind. The people on this board that want to place 100% of the blame on Trent are completely unreasonable. Some guys enter the league great but most need to be put in an environment where they can succeed. Hope that's Trent in Gailey's quick slant passing offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 First Kelly bashes Trent by criticizing Cali QB's playing in Buffalo. Now he hopes Edwards starts. Doesn't leave too much to question why Kelly isn't working as a football analyst or commentator does it? He was a great quarterback, and gave so much to this team and city, but you have to take what he says with a grain of salt. Sounds like he is bored or starting to miss the attention he received as a player. He doesn't have to worry, Bills fans won't ever forget him. With that said, I totally agree with him and hope Edwards is the starter, as he is the obvious choice. If Gailey wants to prove he is this great QB coach and mentor that alot of people claim he is, let his actions do the talking, make a good NFL caliber signal caller out of a guy whose confidence has taken a beating with terrible offensive lines and pathetic game plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Not to mention throwing his old friend, Alex Van Pelt under the bus! Kelly works for the Bills, in some capacity. I have to think, if he is now giving his support to Trent, he knows something that we don't know... I don't think Kelly's throwing AVP under the bus. I think he's acknowledging that Jauron was an idiot managing the offense. It really didn't matter who the coordinator was, offense was strictly limited because of Jauron. Seems like Kelly only realized it sometime in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Or he was not accepting his fair share of the blame. He is very good at not accepting any blame. I also suspect TE is not very good at accepting his fair share of the blame, but if he was strictly coached that way (which I can easily believe) why should he on this one? Where was Jauron in all this? He could have backed Trent up but challenged him to throw downfield more. Did he ever directly address this with the fans/media? Did he ever take responsibility for the crappy playcalling? No, he was all too content to say he's responsible without demonstrating accountability. He hung all his offensive coordinators out to dry with the fans and even the players, so why not his quarterback too? Personnally, I think Trent's done simply because he's too gun shy now but I am willing to give him another chance because of Dick Jauron's putrid offensive philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Or he was not accepting his fair share of the blame. He is very good at not accepting any blame. Trent Edwards has for the most part kept silent and shouldered all the blame so post like this are rather foolish in my opinion. TE never blamed TO/ arrogance as a problem ( just didn't throw the ball to him ), TE didn't blame AVP's/ DJ's scheming/ play calling, or the GM for making him play behind the worse O-line in Bills history, TE didn't blame anyone, TE just bit the bullet and kept his mouth shut for the sake of the team because its all about the team in TE's heart and mind, and you really want to know why Jim Kelly is coming out now and getting behind Trent Edwards? Because when Chan Gailey takes Trent Edwards and our Buffalo Bills to the Superbowl one day and wins it Kelly would like to be left with some form of credibility, talk about foolish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Trent Edwards has for the most part kept silent and shouldered all the blame so post like this are rather foolish in my opinion. TE never blamed TO/ arrogance as a problem ( just didn't throw the ball to him ), TE didn't blame AVP's/ DJ's scheming/ play calling, or the GM for making him play behind the worse O-line in Bills history, TE didn't blame anyone, TE just bit the bullet and kept his mouth shut for the sake of the team because its all about the team in TE's heart and mind, and you really want to know why Jim Kelly is coming out now and getting behind Trent Edwards? Because when Chan Gailey takes Trent Edwards and our Buffalo Bills to the Superbowl one day and wins it Kelly would like to be left with some form of credibility, talk about foolish... I was with you 'til you got to the part about winning the Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I was with you 'til you got to the part about winning the Super Bowl You've got to Billieve ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 You've got to Billieve ... I'm 56...born & raised in the Buffalo area...been a Bills fan since age 6.....five decades of Billieving has made me the butt of jokes with my friends & family. I'm trying to decide if I can "Billieve" one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I'm 56...born & raised in the Buffalo area...been a Bills fan since age 6.....five decades of Billieving has made me the butt of jokes with my friends & family. I'm trying to decide if I can "Billieve" one more year. All you have to do is listen to Gailey's interviews and say to yourself, if I played for the Bills is this the no nonsense type of man I would want leading my football team. Confidence is an essential ingredient to winning in my opinion and Chan Gailey breeds confidence. Gailey/ Nix are going to turn this ball club around, Billieve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoobydum Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 I'm 56...born & raised in the Buffalo area...been a Bills fan since age 6.....five decades of Billieving has made me the butt of jokes with my friends & family. I'm trying to decide if I can "Billieve" one more year. Find new friends and leave your family, they will never understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 "I know Trent, I've known him for a couple of years and I think everyone hopes that one guy will get luckystep up." Sounds like he was using Ralph's speech writer here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Find new friends and leave your family, they will never understand. haha...Good one! I guess I'll jump in again. "Dear Direct TV...sorry, but I canceled my Sunday Ticket in a fit of immature anger...please renew again." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoobydum Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 haha...Good one! I guess I'll jump in again. "Dear Direct TV...sorry, but I canceled my Sunday Ticket in a fit of immature anger...please renew again." Try this idea with to save you money with DTV, you'll never guess who Polishdreamer is: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/940969/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Try this idea with to save you money with DTV, you'll never guess who Polishdreamer is:http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/940969/ Thanx fer the tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I'm 56...born & raised in the Buffalo area...been a Bills fan since age 6.....five decades of Billieving has made me the butt of jokes with my friends & family. I'm trying to decide if I can "Billieve" one more year. Dramatically reduce your expectations and you will be okay. If you are looking for this to be your make or break your you will be broken beyond repair. This is a very flawed franchise owned by a nearly 92 year old owner who has very backward view on how to operate a franchise. The Bills are a mediocre team trying to be better than mediocre. If you acknowledge the reality you should be able to handle the reality. With Nix/Whaely/Gailey involved with the football side of the operation there is a glimmer of hope. There simply is no quick fix. The best one can hope for is a more competent run franchise and a steady movement in the right direction. At least moving forward is better than moving backward or being stuck in the mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Gailey said after the team's minicamp last month that there would be a "pecking order" for the start of camp, and didn't reveal at the close of the camp where the team's three quarterbacks — Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Brian Brohm — stand. Kelly said Edwards has the potential to emerge as the starter. "He's a good kid and he works hard," Kelly continued. "He's got the ability but I hope he gets in a system and has some healthy guys in front of him. It's unfair to judge someone to totally over the season when a guy has an offensive scheme that I was mind-boggled that they stayed with." LMAO he hopes he starts so he can finally get benched and then cut. The guy sucks. If he starts for us people will get their wish of a top 3 draft pick next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Find new friends and leave your family, they will never understand. The Buffalo Bills always show heart and the rest of the world can just kiss my ass because I was born in Buffalo, its my team, and I'm stuck with um, (Pretty much sums up how I feel about the situation) Seriously, I love the Buffalo Bills and wouldn't want it any other way because when we do win a championship,and I know we will, it will be all that much more special. I Billieve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 LMAO he hopes he starts so he can finally get benched and then cut. The guy sucks. If he starts for us people will get their wish of a top 3 draft pick next year. Are you aware that if Edwards starts that means he beat out the other two candidates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Like everyone could, Jimbo seems to be giving TE benefit of doubt probably fully understanding how the system and coaching can impact performance and development. If TE wins as #1 QB on the current roster based on performance thus far in the new scheme and continues that performance throughout camp and preseason, then he should have the chance to led the team under the new scheme and coaching. If he crumbles in the first few weeks, coaching and scheme are eliminated one of the runner ups gets plugged in while Brown continues to develop, the front office determines how to position the team for a QB in 2011 and the team moves on. I admire that Kelly is a true Bills fan unlike many posters here. Rather than establish his own vendetta against a player, he earnestly wish them success which will in turn lead to the Bills success. He expects the best from everyone, and has a positive attitude. It’s one of the leadership traits that made him a great QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Are you aware that if Edwards starts that means he beat out the other two candidates? My hairless chihuahua just won the ugly dog competition at the county fair. I am pumped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Jimmy got some inside info, he knows something. Please god save our Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Like everyone could, Jimbo seems to be giving TE benefit of doubt probably fully understanding how the system and coaching can impact performance and development. If TE wins as #1 QB on the current roster based on performance thus far in the new scheme and continues that performance throughout camp and preseason, then he should have the chance to led the team under the new scheme and coaching. If he crumbles in the first few weeks, coaching and scheme are eliminated one of the runner ups gets plugged in while Brown continues to develop, the front office determines how to position the team for a QB in 2011 and the team moves on. I admire that Kelly is a true Bills fan unlike many posters here. Rather than establish his own vendetta against a player, he earnestly wish them success which will in turn lead to the Bills success. He expects the best from everyone, and has a positive attitude. It’s one of the leadership traits that made him a great QB. Jim Kelly openly called out Trent Edwards at the worse possible time in the young mans career, knowing fully well how important confidence is to a young and developing QB, and exclaimed it was time for the Buffalo Bills to move on. It was a stupid thing to do in my opinion. With all due respect 20 year, If that's not establishing a vendetta, I'm not sure what is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Like everyone could, Jimbo seems to be giving TE benefit of doubt probably fully understanding how the system and coaching can impact performance and development. If TE wins as #1 QB on the current roster based on performance thus far in the new scheme and continues that performance throughout camp and preseason, then he should have the chance to led the team under the new scheme and coaching. If he crumbles in the first few weeks, coaching and scheme are eliminated one of the runner ups gets plugged in while Brown continues to develop, the front office determines how to position the team for a QB in 2011 and the team moves on. I admire that Kelly is a true Bills fan unlike many posters here. Rather than establish his own vendetta against a player, he earnestly wish them success which will in turn lead to the Bills success. He expects the best from everyone, and has a positive attitude. It’s one of the leadership traits that made him a great QB. Yes, but Jim ought to consider his comments better, knowing he may be called on them later. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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