Those Classy Dolphins.....

[Stl Bills]

Yahoo: Dolphins Officials to Dez Bryant....."Is your mom a prostitute?"

 

I'd of punched that dude in the face.

[lets_go_bills]

The draft process is all about scrutiny. Heavy, heavy, under the microscope, all skeletons out of the closet, scrutiny. If a team is considering investing a valuable draft pick and several millions of dollars in you, they can ask whatever the hell they want. No one says you have to agree to the interview, no one is making you attend, no one is making you answer.

 

Offensive? Yes. But these teams are dotting all their "i's" and crossing all their "t's". They want to make the best investment they can. They don't want a player they pick to wash out or wind up suspended. They want him to have a long, productive and exciting career.

 

It's the dirty side of the business, but it's a necessary evil.

[DrDawkinstein]

this goes back to the thread about the Bucs grilling Rolle about "abandoning his teammates". theyre only asking to see how he reacts. in today's league where EVERY move a player makes in their personal life can effect his career and team, you HAVE to push these guys psychologically in an interview to see how they hold up. plus, given his personal history, the team needs to know what type of people the player is going to have in his life. if she was a prostitute, do you really want to bring in a kid who is going to be attracting those types of people to prey off him?

 

if i was interviewing for a MULTI-MILLION dollar job, as a 20 year old punk, I'd expect to be tested on all levels.

[uticaclub]

the answer was probably yes

[bills_fan]

The draft process is all about scrutiny. Heavy, heavy, under the microscope, all skeletons out of the closet, scrutiny. If a team is considering investing a valuable draft pick and several millions of dollars in you, they can ask whatever the hell they want. No one says you have to agree to the interview, no one is making you attend, no one is making you answer.

 

Offensive? Yes. But these teams are dotting all their "i's" and crossing all their "t's". They want to make the best investment they can. They don't want a player they pick to wash out or wind up suspended. They want him to have a long, productive and exciting career.

 

It's the dirty side of the business, but it's a necessary evil.

 

 

Funny, no corporations I know ever asked their incoming CEO, to whom they pay millions, if the CEO's mom was a prostitute. The question is borderline illegal and by no means is it necessary.

[kota]

Funny, no corporations I know ever asked their incoming CEO, to whom they pay millions, if the CEO's mom was a prostitute. The question is borderline illegal and by no means is it necessary.

 

You can't compare the NFL with other corporations.

[CountDorkula]

Funny, no corporations I know ever asked their incoming CEO, to whom they pay millions, if the CEO's mom was a prostitute. The question is borderline illegal and by no means is it necessary.

 

I agree with you completely. I dont care who you are or what you do, You do not/will not talk about my family/friends.

Thats a bunch a BS by the Dolphins, and it shows very little class.

 

You can't compare the NFL with other corporations.

 

Comparison or not, it is a BS question. I would have lost my mind and probably ruined that guys life with some of the things i would have said, but that is just me.

[DrDawkinstein]

You can't compare the NFL with other corporations.

 

exactly

[DrDawkinstein]

I agree with you completely. I dont care who you are or what you do, You do not/will not talk about my family/friends.

Thats a bunch a BS by the Dolphins, and it shows very little class.

 

 

 

Comparison or not, it is a BS question. I would have lost my mind and probably ruined that guys life with some of the things i would have said, but that is just me.

 

no, no you wouldnt. not in this interview. not to play in the NFL and get paid millions of dollars. none of us wouldve said ****. other than "no sir".

[CountDorkula]

no, no you wouldnt. not in this interview. not to play in the NFL and get paid millions of dollars. none of us wouldve said ****. other than "no sir".

 

In the heat of the moment yes i probably would have, i have a very short temper with this kind of stuff. Going into the interview knowing that i still have 31 other chances to go somewhere, i probably would have had a few choice words for the guy.

 

Granted you have to explain yourself afterwards about why you blew up, i think most logical people would understand.

 

To me it is crossing the line.

[KD in CA]

Thanks for the link. Always healthy to get a booster on the Dolphins hatred.

 

 

But as for Dez Bryant, puh-leeze. He's a lazy punk who doesn't want to accept any responsibility for his actions. I wouldn't want that guy within ten miles of my football team.

[qwksilver]

You can't compare the NFL with other corporations.

 

Actually we should. The NFL is more about business than the game. The lockout will prove this point again.

[lets_go_bills]

Funny, no corporations I know ever asked their incoming CEO, to whom they pay millions, if the CEO's mom was a prostitute. The question is borderline illegal and by no means is it necessary.

 

That's your opinion. There are literally millions of different jobs out there. They all have different requirements, different things at stake.

 

These questions are not as direct, not as black and white as you might think. They are as much about seeing how one reacts to the questions. To they get defensive and their back up against the wall? It shows that they may crack under pressure. They also help analyze one's psychological tendencies.

 

There are numerous jobs that require you to write a psych test. The questions are odd, sometimes seem ridiculous and even offensive. They may also seem irrelevent to the job. But they are relevant. One's answers are calculated and grouped into catergories that allow potential employers to gauge one's suitability for a job. They can help preict if someone is prone to anger issues, depression, trust issues, etc.

 

It's not what's on the surface of the question, trust me.

 

You can google these psych tests. The questions range from things like:

 

"Do you love your father?"

 

"Does the presence of blood gross you out?"

 

"Would you prefer the work of a florist or mechanic?"

 

"Have you ever engaged in beastiality?"

 

"Would you rather go for a run or read a book?"

 

This interview is a pysch test, not a stab at his family. Not a slight against him, nor meant to insult or offend. It was to gauge his response in terms of how he responded, his body lanuage, tone, diction, kinesics, etc. They wanted to see how he reacted to being asked this question. They could care less about his actually answer.

 

It was a maturity test and it would appear that Dez failed it.

 

To be blunt, you're wrong. Don't take this as an attack on you, but you've misunderstood what this interview's intentions were.

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Toby Gerhart was highly annoyed when he was asked questions such as:

 

"Do you think you're the poster boy for white running backs?"

 

"Do you think that being a white running back makes you entitled?"

 

Could you imagine how po'd he'd be if they asked him if his mom was a prostitute?

 

Kidding aside, not to justify the questions, but I know some of them are designed for shock value and to evoke the interviewees reactions. In a way, how to deal with adversity...or conflict...or authority...whatever psychological trait they believe that they are measuring.

 

Not sure how I feel about the practice but if I was a player, I'd be ready for such questions and their agents should prepare them as such.

 

One more point. Not to cast aspersions on Dez, but these teams spend a lot of time and money on background checks. They may have run into factual reports that his mom was a prostitute. That would be a more sound basis upon which to ask the question.

 

Mixed feelings about the practice though.

[Stealth]

He should've replied with "Did you suck Parcells dick to get your job". I get the whole trying to throw someone off kilter, to see how they react in stressful situations, but I believe a sarcastic response, without anger would've had the same effect. Shows that the player is not in an angered state, and can throw back insults just as easily as he gets insulted.

[DasNootz]

1) Most major corporations don't pay somebody a mutli-million dollar contract coming out of college. You have to prove you results on a professional basis to become a CEO.

 

2) Major corporations will do background checks and have private investigators find as much information as possible on their candidates. They know about affairs, connections, etc.

[Bob in STL]

Funny, no corporations I know ever asked their incoming CEO, to whom they pay millions, if the CEO's mom was a prostitute. The question is borderline illegal and by no means is it necessary.

 

 

Concur.

[Bob in STL]

1) Most major corporations don't pay somebody a mutli-million dollar contract coming out of college. You have to prove you results on a professional basis to become a CEO.

 

2) Major corporations will do background checks and have private investigators find as much information as possible on their candidates. They know about affairs, connections, etc.

 

 

And you see how well that works. Some of the biggest criminals today are executives of huge corporations. The crimes they commit have consequences beyond anything these jocks could dream of. Look at what recently happened in the banking industry.

[DasNootz]

And you see how well that works. Some of the biggest criminals today are executives of huge corporations. The crimes they commit have consequences beyond anything these jocks could dream of. Look at what recently happened in the banking industry.

 

I'd compare them to athletes taking PEDs. They play games to keep the share value up, thus creating a false illusion of grandure.

[tonyd19]

no, no you wouldnt. not in this interview. not to play in the NFL and get paid millions of dollars. none of us wouldve said ****. other than "no sir".

 

I would have told the exec, don't waste a pick drafting me because I will not sign here, then I would of filed a complaint with the league. Knowing that if I knew my character was as sound as my game was, I would be signed by a team with class that respects it's employees. It shouldn't always be about the money. What the Dophons did was classless and very unprofessional if it is true and the context is correct.

[DrDawkinstein]

we're not talking about CEO positions here. the "Player" position can be compared more to a "Field Technician". I'd put the head coach, or GM as equivalent to a CEO interview. And there is no need to ask those questions there.

 

However, if I was just graduating from college and found an entry level Field Tech job that paid $2million a year, I'd answer any question they asked.

[tonyd19]

That's your opinion. There are literally millions of different jobs out there. They all have different requirements, different things at stake.

 

These questions are not as direct, not as black and white as you might think. They are as much about seeing how one reacts to the questions. To they get defensive and their back up against the wall? It shows that they may crack under pressure. They also help analyze one's psychological tendencies.

 

There are numerous jobs that require you to write a psych test. The questions are odd, sometimes seem ridiculous and even offensive. They may also seem irrelevent to the job. But they are relevant. One's answers are calculated and grouped into catergories that allow potential employers to gauge one's suitability for a job. They can help preict if someone is prone to anger issues, depression, trust issues, etc.

 

It's not what's on the surface of the question, trust me.

 

You can google these psych tests. The questions range from things like:

 

"Do you love your father?"

 

"Does the presence of blood gross you out?"

 

"Would you prefer the work of a florist or mechanic?"

 

"Have you ever engaged in beastiality?"

 

"Would you rather go for a run or read a book?"

 

This interview is a pysch test, not a stab at his family. Not a slight against him, nor meant to insult or offend. It was to gauge his response in terms of how he responded, his body lanuage, tone, diction, kinesics, etc. They wanted to see how he reacted to being asked this question. They could care less about his actually answer.

 

It was a maturity test and it would appear that Dez failed it.

 

To be blunt, you're wrong. Don't take this as an attack on you, but you've misunderstood what this interview's intentions were.

 

 

Did you look up all of these psych questions becasue your mother was a prositiute?

 

Now, before you get angry, I am sure your mother is a very nice woman and is of high moral character. I just have to say i do not think that is an appropriate question for anyone in really any context of employment. Even if she was, the Dolphins are not hiring Dez Bryants mother to play WR - And you sure can't pick our parents.

[BillsFan74]

I understand the need to evaluate players mentally, but there are some things that should be handled with more class.

[DrDawkinstein]

any poster who is saying that they wouldve pulled some tough guy routine in this interview, let me ask you: how many other life changing opportunities has your pride/stupidity held you back from?

 

if you think you can go over the desk at the guy from the dolphins because "there are 31 other teams that will take me", than you just showed that you dont belong on any team. and NO ONE is going to take you. you dont think that word would spread IMMEDIATELY about the incident?

 

come on guys. lets get real here. grow up and answer the question and dont shoot yourself in the foot just to prove a point to no one.

[Bronc24]

The question nobody has answered: Is she?

[tonyd19]

any poster who is saying that they wouldve pulled some tough guy routine in this interview, let me ask you: how many other life changing opportunities has your pride/stupidity held you back from?

 

if you think you can go over the desk at the guy from the dolphins because "there are 31 other teams that will take me", than you just showed that you dont belong on any team. and NO ONE is going to take you. you dont think that word would spread IMMEDIATELY about the incident?

 

come on guys. lets get real here. grow up and answer the question and dont shoot yourself in the foot just to prove a point to no one.

 

I dpn't believe he needed to assault the guy to make his point. If you were the best WR in the draft, who probably 25 other teams would love to have. Would you want to play for the team who insulted your family for really no reason? As I said before, the Dolphons were not draftin Dez Bryants mother, if she was or was not, why is that question relavent? Dez didn't have to be a toughguy, but I bet he is very happy the Dolphins did not draft him.

[DasNootz]

Psych test or not... I really don't see what the problem is with asking this question. You're making a decision that will likely have tens of millions of dollars in implications.

 

I would have no problem with asking this question... "Dez, you understand that there's a lot of scrutiny around your background? I hate to ask you this, but we really need to hear from you what's true and what isn't. <Insert question(s) here>/

 

I appreciate your candor and directness. I think we've gained alot from this interview, and I wish you the best of luck in the future. I know this process isn't easy, but there's light at the end of tunnel... blah blah blah.."

[Peter]

It is offensive the way it was asked. It also was unnecessary. I do not blame Bryant for being pissed and the Dolphins should be ashamed of themselves (or at least Ireland).

[DasNootz]

It is offensive the way it was asked. It also was unnecessary. I do not blame Bryant for being pissed and the Dolphins should be ashamed of themselves (or at least Ireland).

 

We don't know how it was asked.

[Peter]

We don't know how it was asked.

 

 

Let me put it this way, there is no non-offensive way to ask whether someone's mother is a prostitute in a job interview.

[Wagon Circler]

Regardless of how you may feel about Dez Bryant, anyone is entitled to a little more respect than that. He is attempting to play pro football, not be a supreme court justice. If I were he, I would have walked out.

The Dolphins are a classless organization. They owe him an apology.

The Bucs didn' cover themselves with class either with Myron Rolle.

Something in the water in Fla?

[Meark]

The draft process is all about scrutiny. Heavy, heavy, under the microscope, all skeletons out of the closet, scrutiny. If a team is considering investing a valuable draft pick and several millions of dollars in you, they can ask whatever the hell they want. No one says you have to agree to the interview, no one is making you attend, no one is making you answer.

 

Offensive? Yes. But these teams are dotting all their "i's" and crossing all their "t's". They want to make the best investment they can. They don't want a player they pick to wash out or wind up suspended. They want him to have a long, productive and exciting career.

 

It's the dirty side of the business, but it's a necessary evil.

 

Oh really? How in the world is Bryant's mother's profession at all related to his performance on or off the field? Ridiculous question and your justification is even more ridiculous.

[Meark]

no, no you wouldnt. not in this interview. not to play in the NFL and get paid millions of dollars. none of us wouldve said ****. other than "no sir".

 

Which is why it's ridiculous to even ask.. and still offensive.

[Ghost of Rob Johnson]

You can't compare the NFL with other corporations.

Please explain how it is different?

[DasNootz]

Everyone is attempting to avoid drafting the next Michael Vick, Pacman Jones etc. Like it or not, as a player entering the draft, everything is on the table. There are real concerns about his character. Anyone drafting him knows that they're taking a chance. I'd want to know as much as possible before I took that chance.

[DasNootz]

Oh really? How in the world is Bryant's mother's profession at all related to his performance on or off the field? Ridiculous question and your justification is even more ridiculous.

You don't think that the enviornment that somebody grows up in has an impact on their character?

[DrDawkinstein]

I dpn't believe he needed to assault the guy to make his point. If you were the best WR in the draft, who probably 25 other teams would love to have. Would you want to play for the team who insulted your family for really no reason? As I said before, the Dolphons were not draftin Dez Bryants mother, if she was or was not, why is that question relavent? Dez didn't have to be a toughguy, but I bet he is very happy the Dolphins did not draft him.

 

it's relevant because what these players do in their free time can effect their career and the team, if they get suspended. If his mom IS a prostitute, and you are handing him millions of dollars, then you are putting this KID in a position to be PREYED upon by all sorts of shady characters. Not just his mom. And if he has those types of people in his life, there is more likelihood that some criminal element will come in too.

 

if it was a real question, and not just a psych test, then the Dolphins are merely doing their due diligence to protect their MILLION dollar investment.

[Meark]

Psych test or not... I really don't see what the problem is with asking this question. You're making a decision that will likely have tens of millions of dollars in implications.

 

I would have no problem with asking this question... "Dez, you understand that there's a lot of scrutiny around your background? I hate to ask you this, but we really need to hear from you what's true and what isn't. <Insert question(s) here>/

 

I appreciate your candor and directness. I think we've gained alot from this interview, and I wish you the best of luck in the future. I know this process isn't easy, but there's light at the end of tunnel... blah blah blah.."

 

Dude.. who !@#$ing cares what his mom does!!! His mom isn't catching TD passes. Anyone justifying this question is just as low class.. IMO

[Meark]

You don't think that the enviornment that somebody grows up in has an impact on their character?

 

Sure your environment impacts character, but for many it makes them stronger. Ask him questions about his environment growing up.. not if his mom is a prostitute. That is just whack.

[Peter]

Sure your environment impacts character, but for many it makes them stronger. Ask him questions about his environment growing up.. not if his mom is a prostitute. That is just whack.

 

 

Exactly.

 

Plus, whatever his mom does or does not do, I am sure that the NFL and the Dolphins already know. It was an awful question that reflects more on Ireland than Dez Bryant (who, as I understand, is a knucklehead but never has gotten in trouble with the law as far as I know).