10 - 11 potential first round draft picks

[Thurman#1]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...coming-rookies/

 

 

i would downgrade everyone of them as not being too smart.

 

 

"But plenty of them also have a weakness for a girl named . . . Marijuana."

 

My God, that's bad writing. Florio is always a bit ham-handed, but usually it doesn't stick out so much.

[papazoid]

It's important to note that NFL club officials in this case are only referencing failed drug tests administered by the prospect's college that wind up on his background report, not the drug tests the league conducts as part of the scouting process at last month's NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

 

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writ...html?xid=cnnbin

[silvermike]

I mean, on the other hand, the bottom line is this: College is a fun time to experiment, and I don't begrudge anyone a weed habit. But if you're a top round pick, you're probably a decade away from being 32, retired, and with a net worth of $15M. The most you'll have to work is helping out your old high school team, and you can stay lightly baked for 40 years.

[Mr. WEO]

What was the reason the cops searched Lynch's car again, doc? Oh yeah, because they "saw and smelled pot." If marijuana were legal back last summer, do you think they'd still have searched his car?

 

So predictable! Yeah, I think the Cali legislature is just about to pass that historic "Legal Driving While Under the Influence of Weed Law". Soon we will see happy Golden Staters toking down the highways as the ChiPs officers smile and wave at them. If only Marshawn had waited a while before parking that car with no license plates (that will no doubt be deemed not suspicious, and in fact legal also, eh?).As usual, you'll say anything to defend a loser argument.

 

 

Just because he didn't get a parking ticket, it doesn't mean that his first rape charge wasn't a serious one/black eye for the league. But this all goes back to Goodell's cavalier attitude towards violence against women, as evidenced by his equally shameful handling of Brandon Marshall. Goodell is more concerned about a violent crime like a loaded gun in a backpack in the trunk of someone's car.

 

But now after a sit down, will it take a 3rd rape charge to get Big Ben suspended? Sorry but 2 rape charges say that this "thug" can't learn from his mistakes and needs to be taught a lesson now. Eh? Or is he different, for some unknown reason.

 

Oh and I was listening to ESPN the other day and the guy on there, Eric Kuselias, who is an attorney, said that you don't talk to the cops and help them build a case against you (the idea being to let the cops and DA take, say, a month and find nothing incriminating). Hmmmm, now where have we heard THAT before?

 

Well, yes--there is a difference between him and Marshall. First of all, since you're listening to lawyers, you know that there are no "rape" charges pending against BR. An obviously false accusation was made against him last year by a crazy person. And there is still no charge against him in the current accusation. He has, therefore never accepted a plea bargain to a lesser charge (why would an innocent person plead guilty to a crime?). In fact, BR has been cooperative with the cops on this one. He apparently feels he has nothing to hide. The ESPN lawyer is right--legal council to a guilty client should not let his client hand the DA the case proving his guilt. We agree on this. That's why Lynch never spoke.

 

Your suggestion that he be suspended right now speaks for itself. You made a bad call on Lynch's suspension (it proved to have no negative impact on the team and seems so far to have kept him out of further trouble) and now your stuck saying ridiculous things like the above.

[papazoid]

NFL Combine Drug test results.......

 

last year...."leaks" started around April 3rd.......official list given to teams on April 22nd and the Draft was April 25 & 26th.

 

What are the effects of marijuana on performance?

 

Impairs skills requiring eye-hand coordination and a fast reaction time.

Reduces motor coordination, tracking ability and perceptual accuracy.

Impairs concentration, and time appears to move more slowly.

Skill impairment may last up to 24 to 36 hours after usage.

Reduces maximal exercise capacity resulting in increased fatiguability.

Marijuana has no performance-enhancing potential.

Because marijuana is stored in the body fat, its effects may be long-lasting. It has been shown that performance skills can be impaired for as long as 24 hours after marijuana usage, which casts doubt on the commonly held belief that the social use of marijuana the evening prior to an athletic event will not affect performance.

 

 

 

What are the short-term adverse health effects of marijuana?

 

Memory and learning problems

Difficulty concentrating

Perception distortions involving vision, sound, touch and time

Thinking and problem-solving difficulties

Increased heart rate and drop in blood pressure

Sudden feelings of anxiety, including panic attacks, and paranoia

[GaryPinC]

http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

 

Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man!

[DFL]

http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

 

Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man!

 

hahahha.

 

excuse me if i dont consider a .gov a go-to source for legitimate marijuana conversation.

 

btw, youre awful clever with your regurgitated marijuana stereotype.

[Doc]

So predictable! Yeah, I think the Cali legislature is just about to pass that historic "Legal Driving While Under the Influence of Weed Law". Soon we will see happy Golden Staters toking down the highways as the ChiPs officers smile and wave at them. If only Marshawn had waited a while before parking that car with no license plates (that will no doubt be deemed not suspicious, and in fact legal also, eh?).As usual, you'll say anything to defend a loser argument.

"Driving while under the influence of weed?" LOL! Desperation much, doc? The cops stated that the "sight and smell of pot" is what led them to search his car, not the felonious missing plates. And even after finding the gun, there wasn't even a hint of charging him with DWUIW. Hell they didn't even charge him for possessing pot, which makes the allegation (and that's purely what it was) only pertinent to gullible people like you ("he plum just woudn't admit it was his, Roscoe!"). So you see, if pot is legal, there's no need to search his car. But they used a BS excuse, found a gun, and he got punished by the law. That's where it should have ended.

 

Well, yes--there is a difference between him and Marshall. First of all, since you're listening to lawyers, you know that there are no "rape" charges pending against BR. An obviously false accusation was made against him last year by a crazy person. And there is still no charge against him in the current accusation. He has, therefore never accepted a plea bargain to a lesser charge (why would an innocent person plead guilty to a crime?). In fact, BR has been cooperative with the cops on this one. He apparently feels he has nothing to hide. The ESPN lawyer is right--legal council to a guilty client should not let his client hand the DA the case proving his guilt. We agree on this. That's why Lynch never spoke.

 

Your suggestion that he be suspended right now speaks for itself. You made a bad call on Lynch's suspension (it proved to have no negative impact on the team and seems so far to have kept him out of further trouble) and now your stuck saying ridiculous things like the above.

One time is possibly an accident, twice is a trend, doc. Although I'm sure that Big Ben (who I like, believe it or not) is just being unfairly targeted, compared to every other QB, not to mention player, in the NFL, most of whom haven't even been charged ONCE with sexual misconduct.

 

And as the "sit down" with Lynch proved, Sir Roger doesn't need a real charge to have that talk and explain that a player is responsible for his actions and/or putting himself in bad situations. Hell if Big Ben were a Bill, you'd have been screaming for his head.

[McBeane]

http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

 

Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man!

 

Come on man, seriously? I know someone said it before, but you are taking a .gov for the tell-all about weed? Do you have any idea why it was first made illegal? Do some research other than what our lovely government will tell you, and you will see the truth about weed.

 

Go look up a man named Harry Anslinger and tell me that's what weed really does to you. I'm sure you are just loving this healthcare bill, and are glad we are finally getting this much needed "Change"

[LABills08]

I don't care, other than the fact that it's illegal (and shouldn't be.) 40% of the USA lights up a gorilla finger once in a while. To me it's no different that having a few beers.

 

PTR

 

Agreed. This is crazy.

[Thoner7]

I still remember this one day at St John Fisher, during the Bills training camp, I was walkin down the sidewalk when a black Hummer, lifted with like 28" chrome rims, blacked out windows, and a thumpin stereo cruises by. I think "thats gotta be Bills players!!!" So I take notice, and as they drive past I notice some smoke bellowing out of a cracked window on the passenger side.... Sniff sniff, yep reefer.

[bkc]

33 percent seems like a low number for college students

[Fingon]

http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

 

Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man!

I don't see anything in that link that makes Marijuana seem like it should be illegal. They even mention that it doesn't cause cancer, despite having more tar than Tobacco. They also mention that any correlation between Marijuana and mental health problems are completely unproven.

 

 

Cannabis has never killed anyone. Alcohol kills tens of thousands of people a year, and cigarettes far more than that.

[Peevo]

I don't see anything in that link that makes Marijuana seem like it should be illegal. They even mention that it doesn't cause cancer, despite having more tar than Tobacco. They also mention that any correlation between Marijuana and mental health problems are completely unproven.

 

 

Cannabis has never killed anyone. Alcohol kills tens of thousands of people a year, and cigarettes far more than that.

 

 

It's also important to understand that the link between mental health problems and heavy marijuana use is overstated. NORML.org claims that one must be medically predisposed to mental health issues, like bipolar disorder, before even using the drug, to have THC have any effect on it.

 

Regulatory behavior legislation never works, it will never work, and continues to be proven ineffective time and again. It's against the law to gamble on sports, people do it everyday. Speeding, smoking in public places (the UB smoking ban is a complete joke) drinking and driving, prostitution. Pick your vice. All of these are against the law. People do them regardless.

 

I love it how its the neoconservatives that get off on their moral higher ground. If anything, a true conservative would be vehemently opposed to any legislation that governs personal human autonomy. Smoking is bad for you, but no governing agency should tell you can't do bad things to your body.

[Booster4324]

http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

 

Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man!

 

Someone needs to get stoned and relax. Getting laid will work too, but probably the first course will be easier for you.

[GaryPinC]

hahahha.

 

excuse me if i dont consider a .gov a go-to source for legitimate marijuana conversation.btw, youre awful clever with your regurgitated marijuana stereotype.

 

Yea, well looks like you fit at least one of the stereotypes perfectly. Long live the conspiracy.

[GaryPinC]

Come on man, seriously? I know someone said it before, but you are taking a .gov for the tell-all about weed? Do you have any idea why it was first made illegal? Do some research other than what our lovely government will tell you, and you will see the truth about weed.

 

Go look up a man named Harry Anslinger and tell me that's what weed really does to you. I'm sure you are just loving this healthcare bill, and are glad we are finally getting this much needed "Change"

 

Marijuana is illegal because it is addictive and a psychoactive (mind altering) drug. That gives it a high abuse potential and lands it on the DEA's list of scheduled drugs. Since it has no accepted medical use that lands it in the schedule I category.

 

Look, I don't mind or care if you or anyone else enjoys smoking pot regularly. That's your business, and that's fine with me. But when people want to characterize marijuana as "harmless" and that it should be legalized because so many people have tried it, well that's just plain ignorant.

 

I have never done it, would never do it and I know many people who are the same way. I also know many people who have tried it (like my wife for one) and would never do it again. And having known a couple of intelligent people in high school who got addicted to it and threw their life in the crapper because of it, I will certainly step forward to voice my opinion when all the pot smokers try and pretend it's harmless. You can do what you want, but this is a forum on opinions and now you know mine.

 

I fully realize marijuana has a great tox profile but that does not make it "harmless" and meriting legalization.

 

BTW, I am not a socialist and am not a proponnent of socialized medicine.

[LeviF]

Marijuana is illegal because it is addictive and a psychoactive (mind altering) drug. That gives it a high abuse potential and lands it on the DEA's list of scheduled drugs. Since it has no accepted medical use that lands it in the schedule I category.

 

Look, I don't mind or care if you or anyone else enjoys smoking pot regularly. That's your business, and that's fine with me. But when people want to characterize marijuana as "harmless" and that it should be legalized because so many people have tried it, well that's just plain ignorant.

 

I have never done it, would never do it and I know many people who are the same way. I also know many people who have tried it (like my wife for one) and would never do it again. And having known a couple of intelligent people in high school who got addicted to it and threw their life in the crapper because of it, I will certainly step forward to voice my opinion when all the pot smokers try and pretend it's harmless. You can do what you want, but this is a forum on opinions and now you know mine.

 

I fully realize marijuana has a great tox profile but that does not make it "harmless" and meriting legalization.

 

BTW, I am not a socialist and am not a proponnent of socialized medicine.

Care to tell us why Salvia is legal to distribute, grow, and smoke, then?

[GaryPinC]

Someone needs to get stoned and relax. Getting laid will work too, but probably the first course will be easier for you.

 

 

Well, I never been stoned and will never willingly get stoned. Been known to get drunk, especially in my 20's but generally I prefer dealing with reality. Getting laid is certainly more challenging because I have two young children and the wife and I both work, but I'll go get right on that. Thanks for your suggestions. Please feel free to escape into your pot-induced stupor since you must be incapable of facing the real world without it.

[GaryPinC]

It's also important to understand that the link between mental health problems and heavy marijuana use is overstated. NORML.org claims that one must be medically predisposed to mental health issues, like bipolar disorder, before even using the drug, to have THC have any effect on it.

 

Regulatory behavior legislation never works, it will never work, and continues to be proven ineffective time and again. It's against the law to gamble on sports, people do it everyday. Speeding, smoking in public places (the UB smoking ban is a complete joke) drinking and driving, prostitution. Pick your vice. All of these are against the law. People do them regardless.

 

I love it how its the neoconservatives that get off on their moral higher ground. If anything, a true conservative would be vehemently opposed to any legislation that governs personal human autonomy. Smoking is bad for you, but no governing agency should tell you can't do bad things to your body.

 

Most laws are regulatory behavior legislation. Murder is illegal, yet people do it everyday. Does this mean the law doesn't work and that it's ineffective? Laws aren't solely meant to prevent behaviors.

[GaryPinC]

Care to tell us why Salvia is legal to distribute, grow, and smoke, then?

 

Because it has a low addiction potential.

[Fingon]

Because it has a low addiction potential.

What is the addiction potential of alcohol or tobacco?

[McBeane]

Well, I never been stoned and will never willingly get stoned. Been known to get drunk, especially in my 20's but generally I prefer dealing with reality. Getting laid is certainly more challenging because I have two young children and the wife and I both work, but I'll go get right on that. Thanks for your suggestions. Please feel free to escape into your pot-induced stupor since you must be incapable of facing the real world without it.

 

Just cause your wife has tried it and apparently didn't like it (must not have done it right or something ) doesn't mean you know enough about it to make a full judgement on it. It has ZERO addiction capability, what you are considering an "addiction" is people enjoying it and not stopping because they don't have to. I personally have no problem not smoking, but smoke quite regularly, making me not an addict. And heroin is a schedule I drug, you are telling me weed destroys lives like heroin does?

 

I'm just saying that it is completely illogical for weed to be illegal but alcohol and tobacco to be legal.

 

Quick facts for you:

 

Alcohol-related deaths per year is estimated to be 2 million worldwide.

 

Weed-related deaths per year = 0.

 

Somethings just aren't right, and weed being illegal is one of them.

[Spiderweb]

Just cause your wife has tried it and apparently didn't like it (must not have done it right or something ) doesn't mean you know enough about it to make a full judgement on it. It has ZERO addiction capability, what you are considering an "addiction" is people enjoying it and not stopping because they don't have to. I personally have no problem not smoking, but smoke quite regularly, making me not an addict. And heroin is a schedule I drug, you are telling me weed destroys lives like heroin does?

 

I'm just saying that it is completely illogical for weed to be illegal but alcohol and tobacco to be legal.

 

Quick facts for you:

 

Alcohol-related deaths per year is estimated to be 2 million worldwide.

 

Weed-related deaths per year = 0.

 

Somethings just aren't right, and weed being illegal is one of them.

 

Without any doubt, I'd rather share a ride in a car with someone who just had a beer vs. someone who just smoked a joint. I call tell you this, I don't want any on the road who has just smoked a joint any more than I want a drunk.

 

As for zero "weed-related" deaths....humm....tell that one to those that have died in drug wars and also, where did you garner your "facts", Tommy Chong?

[bowery4]

I smoked a lot of weed for a lot of years. It is addicting in a I wanna joint kind of way, it certainly has a phyoclogical addiction potential which can be pretty strong in some individuals . I think it does have a harmless effect on most people and think the Government is a bad place to get info on it as it always has been. No body ever died from pot? Bob Marley died from emphisema and puffed about 6-10 joints a day, did it kill him? IDHK but he did die from a lung disease. I quit smoking because I was going to a country with a hard line drug policy and I was getting lung infections when ever I caught a cold. It has been 5 years and at times I miss it, will I do it again? maybe I would but I won't be using it as much as I used to. Things like it affects motivation are true, never found the big breasts or sexual fuction to be though.

Never made me very crazy or afficted my mental stability much IMO

If I could make millions if I didn't do it, I wouldn't have but kids (esply football players) are not known for the brains they bring to being pop culture icons so I am not surprised.

BTW it should be legal but never will be in my lifetime and that is a shame but the way it is.

[nucci]

Just cause your wife has tried it and apparently didn't like it (must not have done it right or something ) doesn't mean you know enough about it to make a full judgement on it. It has ZERO addiction capability, what you are considering an "addiction" is people enjoying it and not stopping because they don't have to. I personally have no problem not smoking, but smoke quite regularly, making me not an addict. And heroin is a schedule I drug, you are telling me weed destroys lives like heroin does?

 

I'm just saying that it is completely illogical for weed to be illegal but alcohol and tobacco to be legal.

Quick facts for you:

 

Alcohol-related deaths per year is estimated to be 2 million worldwide.

 

Weed-related deaths per year = 0.

 

Somethings just aren't right, and weed being illegal is one of them.

[silvermike]

What's really lingering out here for the NFL is that there's absolutely no doubt that football is a heck of a lot more dangerous than marijuana.

[LeviF]

Without any doubt, I'd rather share a ride in a car with someone who just had a beer vs. someone who just smoked a joint. I call tell you this, I don't want any on the road who has just smoked a joint any more than I want a drunk.

 

As for zero "weed-related" deaths....humm....tell that one to those that have died in drug wars and also, where did you garner your "facts", Tommy Chong?

Just to comment on the drug wars point, legalizing marijuana would put a lot of drug cartels out of business or force them to move to harder drugs. I know I'd purchase weed grown by growers who have to follow government regulations before I'd purchase it from some drug dealer who might have laced it with god-knows-what.

[Mr. WEO]

"Driving while under the influence of weed?" LOL! Desperation much, doc? The cops stated that the "sight and smell of pot" is what led them to search his car, not the felonious missing plates. And even after finding the gun, there wasn't even a hint of charging him with DWUIW. Hell they didn't even charge him for possessing pot, which makes the allegation (and that's purely what it was) only pertinent to gullible people like you ("he plum just woudn't admit it was his, Roscoe!"). So you see, if pot is legal, there's no need to search his car. But they used a BS excuse, found a gun, and he got punished by the law. That's where it should have ended.

 

 

One time is possibly an accident, twice is a trend, doc. Although I'm sure that Big Ben (who I like, believe it or not) is just being unfairly targeted, compared to every other QB, not to mention player, in the NFL, most of whom haven't even been charged ONCE with sexual misconduct.

 

And as the "sit down" with Lynch proved, Sir Roger doesn't need a real charge to have that talk and explain that a player is responsible for his actions and/or putting himself in bad situations. Hell if Big Ben were a Bill, you'd have been screaming for his head.

Alcohol is legal, but not while operating a car, so the point you pretend to be missing is that the smoking of weed in the vehicle is enough to arouse the righteous suspicion of the cops, just as if they saw this suspicious vehicle full of 40-guzzling citizens. California, like most states has an open container law. Same law also applies to having weed in the car, let alone smoking it. There will never be a law legalizing smoking weed in a car, sport.

 

Gullible?--you are the only person who believes the weed wasn't in the car. Neither Lynch nor his lawyer disputed or challenged this report, despite it being grounds for tossing the search if it was "made up by the cops". They didn't charge him or anyone else likely because a) they couldn't establish possession and, b) most likely the amount was less than an ounce and not worth a charge and c) once they struck paydirt in the trunk, the couple of doobs on the floor were rendered inconsequential.

 

We've been over all of these undisputed bits in the past, yet you pretend not to understand a very straightforward case---going so far as to suggest that some law leagalizing pot would, tortuously, tangentially, have validated your ill conceived support of Lynch in a case that even his team through in the towel on.

 

As for BR, Goodell did not sit down with Lynch until after he hit a woman with his car after a night visiting bars and then refused to cooperate with a police investigation for a month ("just a few simple questions, Mr. Lynch. You've got nothing to worry about, right?") until the cops were showing up at an NFL team office handing out grand jury subpoenas to representatives of the Bills and the NFL itself.

 

 

Look, the Commish is going to sit down with BR----with no charges pending or found against him. It's unprecedented and against what his often stated policy has been. What, exactly, is your problem now? Big Ben has, to this point, only been guilty of indiscretion. If he assualted this girl in Georgia we will all know soon enough and he's finished. You know the other allegation is false, yet you keep bringing it up.

 

Lynch played you. Get over it. You're sounding like one of those women who marry prisoners thinking you can turn them around. It's...unbecoming.

[Jdorn]

"Bob Marley died from emphisema and puffed about 6-10 joints a day, did it kill him? IDHK but he did die from a lung disease."

 

Just wanted to clarify as there is enough speculation and misinformation on both sides on this topic.

 

Robert Nesta Marley Died 5/11/1981 cause melanoma.

The cancer originated in his big toe. The way of the Rastafarian does not accept amputation and the cancer spread from his toe to his liver, lungs and finally his brain.

[Mr. WEO]

"Bob Marley died from emphisema and puffed about 6-10 joints a day, did it kill him? IDHK but he did die from a lung disease."

 

Just wanted to clarify as there is enough speculation and misinformation on both sides on this topic.

 

Robert Nesta Marley Died 5/11/1981 cause melanoma.

The cancer originated in his big toe. The way of the Rastafarian does not accept amputation and the cancer spread from his toe to his liver, lungs and finally his brain.

Like Mr. Marley's belief that medical doctors were con men who convinced the weak that they had powerful witchcraft.

[Peevo]

Most laws are regulatory behavior legislation. Murder is illegal, yet people do it everyday. Does this mean the law doesn't work and that it's ineffective? Laws aren't solely meant to prevent behaviors.

 

 

You missed my point. Of course murder is illegal. It's the conscious taking of one's life. Who am I to say that I can determine when someone else's life ends? That's why its wrong.

 

Any legislation that governs INDIVIDUAL behavior, and certainly vices, serves no public benefit and simply drains tax revenue and resources.

 

Like I said, how many people on this board bet on football games every week, or bet in their college basketball pools? This is illegal in New York State. People do it everyday. People illicit prostitution, hard drugs, gambling, smoking, any of these pleasure giving acts, REGARDLESS of legality, still happen daily. Prohibition failed, did it not? The 18th amendment is the only amendment to have been negated by another amendment. Think about that. The temperance movement "succeeded" when prohibition became the law of the land. People still drank, and major organized crime networks developed to supply that demand. If anything, illicit trades are governed by pure market economics. Black markets, but markets nonetheless.

 

As I said, and you obviously didn't read it, NO ONE should have the authority to tell you what do you with your body, good or bad. If I go and eat lunch at McDonald's, because fast food is unhealthy does that mean I need a lecture on what I'm doing to my body? NO! The nutrition facts are RIGHT ON THE BAG. Any reasonable adult can decide for themselves what to put, or not to put, in their own bodies. It's called libertarianism. Any true conservative should agree with the policy. If I buy cigarettes, same thing. I paid the excise taxes, and furthermore, it says RIGHT ON THE BOX that they're bad for you. I don't need to be patronized for my decisions that negatively affect no one but myself.

[Bufcomments]

Come on man, seriously? I know someone said it before, but you are taking a .gov for the tell-all about weed? Do you have any idea why it was first made illegal? Do some research other than what our lovely government will tell you, and you will see the truth about weed.

 

Go look up a man named Harry Anslinger and tell me that's what weed really does to you. I'm sure you are just loving this healthcare bill, and are glad we are finally getting this much needed "Change"

I looked up this guy Anslinger and the Weed laws a couple of months ago. The Gov just plain lied to get these laws on the books. They knew they could not stop people from drinking, so they made Weed the go after drug so to speak.

 

The law was based on lies, you can compare it to the Weapons of mass Destruction claim that Bush/ Channey that got us in Iraq.

 

If you don't believe me look it up. As a matter of fact, during Washington's and Jefferson's time as Prez if you were a farmer it was illegal NOT to grow hemp , as it was called back then.

 

I would be more concerned with some players who are heavy drinkers than weed smokers any day of the week.

 

To me this will have little effect on the draft. People need to wake up to the fact that Teams these day have more to worry about than some weed in somebody's system.

 

would you rather have a guy who smokes weed during the offseason or have a Big Ben case staring at you??

 

Smoke em if you got em and God Bless you if ya do

[Jdorn]

I didnt say I agreed with his belief system and that stubbornness may just have cost him his life. That doesnt change the fact that his cause of death was melanoma not emphysema. This was the only point I was trying to make Weo I have no desire to argue points that you assume people are making vs what is actually said.

[Doc]

Alcohol is legal, but not while operating a car, so the point you pretend to be missing is that the smoking of weed in the vehicle is enough to arouse the righteous suspicion of the cops, just as if they saw this suspicious vehicle full of 40-guzzling citizens. California, like most states has an open container law. Same law also applies to having weed in the car, let alone smoking it. There will never be a law legalizing smoking weed in a car, sport.

 

Gullible?--you are the only person who believes the weed wasn't in the car. Neither Lynch nor his lawyer disputed or challenged this report, despite it being grounds for tossing the search if it was "made up by the cops". They didn't charge him or anyone else likely because a) they couldn't establish possession and, b) most likely the amount was less than an ounce and not worth a charge and c) once they struck paydirt in the trunk, the couple of doobs on the floor were rendered inconsequential.

 

We've been over all of these undisputed bits in the past, yet you pretend not to understand a very straightforward case---going so far as to suggest that some law leagalizing pot would, tortuously, tangentially, have validated your ill conceived support of Lynch in a case that even his team through in the towel on.

 

As for BR, Goodell did not sit down with Lynch until after he hit a woman with his car after a night visiting bars and then refused to cooperate with a police investigation for a month ("just a few simple questions, Mr. Lynch. You've got nothing to worry about, right?") until the cops were showing up at an NFL team office handing out grand jury subpoenas to representatives of the Bills and the NFL itself.

 

 

Look, the Commish is going to sit down with BR----with no charges pending or found against him. It's unprecedented and against what his often stated policy has been. What, exactly, is your problem now? Big Ben has, to this point, only been guilty of indiscretion. If he assualted this girl in Georgia we will all know soon enough and he's finished. You know the other allegation is false, yet you keep bringing it up.

 

Lynch played you. Get over it. You're sounding like one of those women who marry prisoners thinking you can turn them around. It's...unbecoming.

LOL! How do you figure he "played" me? Because of those laughable reports about how he was shot at or the bogus sexual assault claim by "a crazy woman" when he was in college? Because, you see, his "hit and run" actually turned out to be an accident (still waiting for something, ANYTHING, to prove otherwise, doc). And believing the "we saw and smelled pot but didn't charge him because he didn't admit it was his" is the kind of gullibility that kids have in believing in the existence of the tooth fairy. But since he didn't talk and didn't fight the pot NON-charge (nothing was going to get him off the gun charge, obviously) it made him guilty of those? No, you haven't been played; you're just played out, doc.

 

No doubt you have some explanation for the video tape/DVD of BR from that night that mysteriously got erased. No doubt it would have exonerated him (like it actually did with Lynch during that "hit and run").

[thebug]

LOL! How do you figure he "played" me? Because of those laughable reports about how he was shot at or the bogus sexual assault claim by "a crazy woman" when he was in college? Because, you see, his "hit and run" actually turned out to be an accident (still waiting for something, ANYTHING, to prove otherwise, doc). And believing the "we saw and smelled pot but didn't charge him because he didn't admit it was his" is the kind of gullibility that kids have in believing in the existence of the tooth fairy. But since he didn't talk and didn't fight the pot NON-charge (nothing was going to get him off the gun charge, obviously) it made him guilty of those? No, you haven't been played; you're just played out, doc.

 

No doubt you have some explanation for the video tape/DVD of BR from that night that mysteriously got erased. No doubt it would have exonerated him (like it actually did with Lynch during that "hit and run").

 

 

I commend your love for Mr. Lynch. Would you feel the same way if he was a Pat*?

[Fingon]

Without any doubt, I'd rather share a ride in a car with someone who just had a beer vs. someone who just smoked a joint. I call tell you this, I don't want any on the road who has just smoked a joint any more than I want a drunk.

 

As for zero "weed-related" deaths....humm....tell that one to those that have died in drug wars and also, where did you garner your "facts", Tommy Chong?

Weed didn't kill those people. Drug cartels and the government making it illegal did.

[Doc]

I commend your love for Mr. Lynch. Would you feel the same way if he was a Pat*?

If I didn't know the facts and was going mostly on emotion, I'd probably feel the same way as some do about Lynch.

[Mr. WEO]

LOL! How do you figure he "played" me? Because of those laughable reports about how he was shot at or the bogus sexual assault claim by "a crazy woman" when he was in college? Because, you see, his "hit and run" actually turned out to be an accident (still waiting for something, ANYTHING, to prove otherwise, doc). And believing the "we saw and smelled pot but didn't charge him because he didn't admit it was his" is the kind of gullibility that kids have in believing in the existence of the tooth fairy. But since he didn't talk and didn't fight the pot NON-charge (nothing was going to get him off the gun charge, obviously) it made him guilty of those? No, you haven't been played; you're just played out, doc.

 

No doubt you have some explanation for the video tape/DVD of BR from that night that mysteriously got erased. No doubt it would have exonerated him (like it actually did with Lynch during that "hit and run").

Again, no one but you is claiming the cops lied about the pot. Without it even you say there would be no grounds for search. Yet you claim that the gun search/charge was inevitable. You make no sense. Or pretend not to--just can't understand why. You understood my explanation of why they didn't bother with a weed charge. It was pretty straightforward.

 

A small amount of weed means nothing to the cops---they just used it as their way into the trunk where their suspicions were confirmed. That's what their looking for buddy.

 

 

I don't know about any women's bathroom QB rape video being erased. But as time goes by, any evidence in this case may go the way of that in the ML hit and run case.

 

You've fallen into the same hole again.

[thebug]

If I didn't know the facts and was going mostly on emotion, I'd probably feel the same way as some do about Lynch.

 

 

So you were there on multiple occasions?