Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article fully agree with the sentiment in the piece and I feel bills fans deserve more respect than wilson shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsRUs Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article The author did make a few valid points. But it did come off a lil' harsh IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanLevy Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 I agree with what he is saying completely. He does hit on some key issues, however, I'm not sure that the Bills did nothing to help after the storm but if that is true then it's just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article Agreed. The verbiage is simply harsh and awful. People should understand that if it were simply about money the Bills would have been out of Buffalo long ago. The author of the article needs to get some perspective. Come here to Ballas to see the icon of the new NFL - a billion dollar plus money sucking stadium. It represents a situation far worse than Ralph taking a game to Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article AS a season ticket holder I have treated as well as I expected from a Billion dollar industry. Donahoe was a total jerk and the failure of the team on the field ahs distroyed by relationship more than the Toronto game and other such crap. If I could tell one thing to Ralph it would be this. Since you have such a terrible record picking good football people, and the people that closely advise you like Littman and Overdorf, give you this sage advise, I would worry about your financial position. What makes Ralph think that Littman and the Detroit crew are any better than the people he has chossen to run his football operation. Ralph you may be broke now and you just dont know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article The guy is definitely harsh, but it really is not anything that hasn't been said on TSW. He makes some good points, like NO is not playing a game elsewhere, but Ralph has kept ticket prices down. It just allows scalpers to have a lower base cost. The Sabres have done a brilliant job by tiering games to make Leafs, Pens and Canadiens fans pay a premium. I'm not sure if the Bills charge different prices for single games based on an opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 What am I missing here? Ralph's ticket prices are hardly an issue. If the guy wants to trash his running off of Polian and other competent football guys, Ralph is guilty as charged. His ticket prices are pretty fair. Has Buffalo been destroyed by a natural disaster? Yeah, a few years ago in October. Did Ralph offer any help? No. He raised his ticket prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article He might be a little harsh with some of his words, but the heart of the article is 110% right on. Western New Yorkers are some of if not the best and most dedicated fans in all of the NFL and over the past 10 plus years, Ralph and the organization have shown the fans no respect and have used them for their hard earned dollars. Face the truth, economic times are bad, there isn't a whole lot else to do in the fall and early winter around Buffalo except go to Bills games or watch them on TV, so he knows people will show up no matter what he does, and selling a game to Toronto for some extra money proves that, as there was no decline in ticket sales, in fact they increased. To bad there wasn't a way for the other owners to force a guy like Ralph to sell a team that is so obviously in disarray and in it for the money with little concern for winning or pleasing long time fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article I agree. My only real beef with Ralph is that he doesn't know how to pick good personel to steer the ship and recognize good personel when he sees it. I have no problem with him taking a game to Toronto for more money. I was in Baltimore when the press was very harsh toward Bob Irsay. Called him every name in the book. When Irsay moved the Colts to Indianapolis, those same members of the press where saying we couldn't care less. About 2 years later when the NFL showed no interest in bringing football back to Baltimore the same members of the press were boo hooing about not having football in Baltimore. It took them 16 years to get football back. They treat the owners quite differently now. The lesson there was "Don't bite the hand that gives you football". We may not be to crazy about some of the things RW does but we certainly don't want to go down the same path Baltimore went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article The sentiment of the article is spot on. As far as I am concerned the owner is a self-absorbed baron owner who is an incompetent buffoon. When you are 91 yrs old and still chasing the last nickel that is a testament to who he is and what he is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Love the grey hair with the dyed goatee George Root. Very Ronnie The Limo Driver-esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local..._041015510.html I may be against some of the things Ralph does but I do think he deserves more respect than he was shown in this article This guy is a hack and his article is trash. He doesn not cite any of Ralphs real tactical errors and he fails to mention how he backs up his support for small markets. The Sabres a model for small markets? Look at the help they get from Canada. Two playoff appearances in 7 years and that was more luck than anything Golosano did. His best moves were staying with Regier and Ruff ... something that Ralph would be criticized for in today's NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGimp Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 I still can not believe how many gimps on this board buy into ralphy bullsheet! you are the same people that don't mind losing seasons i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GUY YELLING BEHIND YOU Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 fully agree with the sentiment in the piece and I feel bills fans deserve more respect than wilson shows. So whatever winter storms that rip through the northeast, as they do every year, not gets compared to the utter and shear devestation that Katrina brought to a whole region. Do we need to remind Mr. Root that people were without food, water, and medical care for days upon days? Bodies lying in the middle of the street, bunches in mass burials because they had no one to claim their bodies. No ladies and gentleman, Mr. Root is a hack and an alarmist. It is one thing to criticize football moves and personnel being brought in, but to invoke what the people of New Orleans have been through is completely inappropriate. Yes, the Sabres are more user friendly, but I would argue that hockey by nature is a passion sport. Hockey is regarded as a 3rd rate sport in most circles. Hell, I'd contract half the teams south of the mason dixon if I could. I live in DC and I swear to you these people had no idea what hockey was until they got a genius marketing department and Mr. Oven-chicken, who is a first class ass. I hate to use the word cultic, but when you're a hockey fan, you are apart of a fraternity of fanatics. Come down here and witness how the Redskins are run and how Daniel Snyder has drained this community of a ton of money by jacking up ticket, parking, and concession costs while putting a team that is WORSE than the Bills. My friends always rag me for how much the Bills suck, well folks, they have double the payroll and still had 2 less losses and no one was beating down the door to work with this yo-yo. So is Ralph getting a little long in the tooth, yes...do we agree with him all the time, no. Is he one of the top 10 owners in the league...no. But trust me, we are not moving to Toronto or LA, they don't want us and if you want to see a real debacle, go down to Jax and see 40K of fans and not 72. Tim Tebow jerseys already printed because they know they're screwed without him. Goodell even said as much. It was like walking into Howe Field back in Hamburg for a JV game on Thursday night. Let me finally remind Mr. Root that Ralph was one of only 2 owners that voted against the CBA, which is widely viewed as the worst thing ever and it took 3 years for money bags' Jonesey, Fed-Ex Boy, and Kraft cheese to realize it. So are we in the best position in the world, HELL NO! But I am a BILLS fan through and through and I'll be there for the Jags game this year (My bro in law is a Jags fan) and I'll be tailgating at 9:00. If I can catch a Sabres game that same saturday, I'll do that too... But Don't anyone dare compare to what we go through with a winter storm to what that region went through with Katrina. Mr. Root has lost perspective, don't you all do it too... LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StamerforPrez Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 So whatever winter storms that rip through the northeast, as they do every year, not gets compared to the utter and shear devestation that Katrina brought to a whole region. Do we need to remind Mr. Root that people were without food, water, and medical care for days upon days? Bodies lying in the middle of the street, bunches in mass burials because they had no one to claim their bodies. No ladies and gentleman, Mr. Root is a hack and an alarmist. It is one thing to criticize football moves and personnel being brought in, but to invoke what the people of New Orleans have been through is completely inappropriate. Yes, the Sabres are more user friendly, but I would argue that hockey by nature is a passion sport. Hockey is regarded as a 3rd rate sport in most circles. Hell, I'd contract half the teams south of the mason dixon if I could. I live in DC and I swear to you these people had no idea what hockey was until they got a genius marketing department and Mr. Oven-chicken, who is a first class ass. I hate to use the word cultic, but when you're a hockey fan, you are apart of a fraternity of fanatics. Come down here and witness how the Redskins are run and how Daniel Snyder has drained this community of a ton of money by jacking up ticket, parking, and concession costs while putting a team that is WORSE than the Bills. My friends always rag me for how much the Bills suck, well folks, they have double the payroll and still had 2 less losses and no one was beating down the door to work with this yo-yo. So is Ralph getting a little long in the tooth, yes...do we agree with him all the time, no. Is he one of the top 10 owners in the league...no. But trust me, we are not moving to Toronto or LA, they don't want us and if you want to see a real debacle, go down to Jax and see 40K of fans and not 72. Tim Tebow jerseys already printed because they know they're screwed without him. Goodell even said as much. It was like walking into Howe Field back in Hamburg for a JV game on Thursday night. Let me finally remind Mr. Root that Ralph was one of only 2 owners that voted against the CBA, which is widely viewed as the worst thing ever and it took 3 years for money bags' Jonesey, Fed-Ex Boy, and Kraft cheese to realize it. So are we in the best position in the world, HELL NO! But I am a BILLS fan through and through and I'll be there for the Jags game this year (My bro in law is a Jags fan) and I'll be tailgating at 9:00. If I can catch a Sabres game that same saturday, I'll do that too... But Don't anyone dare compare to what we go through with a winter storm to what that region went through with Katrina. Mr. Root has lost perspective, don't you all do it too... LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!! At least Snyder apologized over and over again for losing. Ralph blames it on the market and the inability to compete with big markets. I llive in DC too so I get what your saying, but there is a difference between an owner who tries every season to put a winning team on the field but fails because he doesn't know football (Snyder), and an owner who uses shortcuts and gimmicks to fill his stadium while continuously putting out a crap product with no signs of improvement(Ralph). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Lockport Journal? What, was the guy from East Aurora busy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 At least Snyder apologized over and over again for losing. Ralph blames it on the market and the inability to compete with big markets. I llive in DC too so I get what your saying, but there is a difference between an owner who tries every season to put a winning team on the field but fails because he doesn't know football (Snyder), and an owner who uses shortcuts and gimmicks to fill his stadium while continuously putting out a crap product with no signs of improvement(Ralph). this, ralph publicly stated years ago that Buffalo will support a loser and he's played that angle to the max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 This guys comparing apples to oranges. he says the differance in the population of New Orleans to San Antonio is about 700,000 if Buffalo is the same size as New Orleans that Toronto has about 3.8 million more people. He mentions Ralph giving into temptation, thats a hell of alot more temptation, and how many San Antonio residents a soccor fanatic hispanics? Im willing to bet at least half of that 700,000. The author also fails to mention that Toranto is what 75 miles from Buffalo? which hardly aleinates its fans. San Antonio is a lengthy trip for the New Orlean faithfuls. Lets face it most of us would hate to see the Bills leave Buffalo, but would any of us stop pulling for the Bills if they went to Toronto. I would have to think long and hard about keeping them as my team if they went to LA but there is no doubt in my mind that they would be my team in Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Ralph Wilson is a blood-sucking leech who cares nothing for our community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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