porter and thomas likely to be cut

[dwight in philly]

pft is reporting both joey porter and adulius thomas are going to be cut soon. i think both would bring the attitude we are looking for the defense to have..

[BuffaloBound2010]

i really like Porter, and I think he has something to prove. But I wonder what the relationship between him and George Edwards is, since he is really unhappy with Miami because he wasn't getting playing time, and felt he deserved it.

[DDD]

Joey Porter is a punk. He's done.

[nucci]

i really like Porter, and I think he has something to prove. But I wonder what the relationship between him and George Edwards is, since he is really unhappy with Miami because he wasn't getting playing time, and felt he deserved it.

What does he have to prove?

[nostyle126]

both of these guys would bring an edge that our defense could use. We're anything but edgy right now.

[Chicago_Mike]

Porter has two seasons left in the tank, and next year, at least statistically, will prove to be one of is best b/c he wants to show the Fins and the entire NFL that he's still an elite player. He's definitely an energizer and would bring some nastiness to our defense; however, with all of that said, I find it highly unlikely he'll land in Buffalo. My guess is that he'll wind up with a contender that already has a decent defense.

[ChasBB]

Porter has two seasons left in the tank, and next year, at least statistically, will prove to be one of is best b/c he wants to show the Fins and the entire NFL that he's still an elite player. He's definitely an energizer and would bring some nastiness to our defense; however, with all of that said, I find it highly unlikely he'll land in Buffalo. My guess is that he'll wind up with a contender that already has a decent defense.

Why only 2 seasons left? Does he have an expiration date stamped on his forehead? Why do you say this? He's still fairly young.

[Magox]

What does he have to prove?

Anyone who gets cut, usually has something to prove, specially if you have an over-sized ego such as Porter's.

[Green Lightning]

pft is reporting both joey porter and adulius thomas are going to be cut soon. i think both would bring the attitude we are looking for the defense to have..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the Pats are cutting Thomas, it's because he's past his prime. Haven't we learned that yet with Milloy and Bledsoe? Let's build with the draft.

[dwight in philly]

yea, my point is i want our defense to have an edge, an identity. for once i would like to see a team from buffalo have the nastiness, toughness, that goes with the town. the sabres are pussies, the bills have no identity. just once i would like to hear the rest of football acknowledge the toughness of the bills in some form.

[Chicago_Mike]

Why only 2 seasons left? Does he have an expiration date stamped on his forehead? Why do you say this? He's still fairly young.

two good seasons... he's going to be 33 when the season begins. And after 35, I find it hard to believe he's going to be posting good sack numbers b/c he will probably be lacking the speed.

[nostyle126]

pft is reporting both joey porter and adulius thomas are going to be cut soon. i think both would bring the attitude we are looking for the defense to have..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the Pats are cutting Thomas, it's because he's past his prime. Haven't we learned that yet with Milloy and Bledsoe? Let's build with the draft.

Milloy was still a decent safety when we acquired him. Just because the Pats cut a guy doesn't mean they can't still be more productive than what we currently have on our roster. Would you not take Adam Vinatieri after they cut him? How about Seymour after they traded him? The Pats make a lot of ballsy roster decisions that sometimes result in good players getting the axe.

[ChasBB]

two good seasons... he's going to be 33 when the season begins. And after 35, I find it hard to believe he's going to be posting good sack numbers b/c he will probably be lacking the speed.

Man, time flies. I didn't realize he's been around this long.

[colin]

those guys and wilfork will give us a sick 34 and let us draft TE/WR and LT in the first 2 (obv LT being top slot). that would be huge. porter and maybin/aaron shoble on the outside, and thomas and poz in the middle, w williams and stroud at DE and vince in the gut would be just beastly

[Green Lightning]

Milloy was still a decent safety when we acquired him. Just because the Pats cut a guy doesn't mean they can't still be more productive than what we currently have on our roster. Would you not take Adam Vinatieri after they cut him? How about Seymour after they traded him? The Pats make a lot of ballsy roster decisions that sometimes result in good players getting the axe.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, Milloy was decent. So was Bledsoe. But not as good as what the Pats replaced them with. Using your logic, we'll always be less then the Pats. I'm just saying let's build without the Pats strategic cuts. They'll likely have little milage left and cost us too much when we should be building with young legs.

[FLFan]

I am sure there is a reason Joey Porter was riding the bench last year. Perhaps his notoriously bad attitude and me first perspective? George Edwards was his linebackers coach - no chance he ends up in Buffalo and that is a good thing. I would be more inclined to take a chance on Thomas as a reserve/pass rush specialist in the 3-4 alignment. He only started 11 games last year and only had 34 total tackles and 3 sacks - clearly no longer a dominent force or every down player. It would make sense for the Patriots to cut him given the big contract he signed. For a reasonable price he would bring some veteran leadership and knowledge of the 3-4 defense.

[rstencel]

pft is reporting both joey porter and adulius thomas are going to be cut soon. i think both would bring the attitude we are looking for the defense to have..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the Pats are cutting Thomas, it's because he's past his prime. Haven't we learned that yet with Milloy and Bledsoe? Let's build with the draft.

 

Very good point.

 

However if we switch to 3-4 defense, having a veteran or 2 that is used to playing in 3-4 could cut down the learning curve for rest of team on the switch. Its not an easy defense to master if haven't played in it before, so having someone like Thomas could benefit the players around him

[reddogblitz]

Dang, I though you were talking about the dude that intercepted that pass yesterday and Pierre Thomas! Pick them both up.

 

I might take Joey Porter though. Won a SB. Edgy. The week prior to SB XL he said Jeremy Stevens was soft and I'll be darned if he wasn't right. Let him play a lot.

[billsevans]

Porter was out played in Miami by Channing Crowder, and he doesn't like being the #2 LB on the team.I think he could make an impact to the extent of what Takeo did when he was on the team. As for Thomas i dont know much about him, I would rather save the money and get someone in the draft.

[lets_go_bills]

Thomas? Yes. Porter? No.

[banjo moe]

Thomas? Yes. Porter? No.

Thomas became a malcontent in the locker room towards the end of this season in NE and was actually held out of a game for showing up late to team meetings. Don't bother, he was a cancer in NE.

[BuffaloHokie]

those guys and wilfork will give us a sick 34 and let us draft TE/WR and LT in the first 2 (obv LT being top slot). that would be huge. porter and maybin/aaron shoble on the outside, and thomas and poz in the middle, w williams and stroud at DE and vince in the gut would be just beastly

 

 

 

I don't know why we are still drafting TE and WR when we haven't developed the ones that we have. No TE or WR will come in and demand a double team to pull pressure off of Lee Evans which is what we need. Wilfork or a Casey Hampton addition would be crucial. Adalius Thomas has not looked nearly as "beastly" since leaving Ray Lewis' side and I would not invest more than a year on Joey Porter...if we are trying to get an impact OLB we need to do everything we can to pull Merriman away from San Diego or find a younger player. It looks like he has worn out his welcome there.

[lets_go_bills]

Thomas became a malcontent in the locker room towards the end of this season in NE and was actually held out of a game for showing up late to team meetings. Don't bother, he was a cancer in NE.

 

He was a great player in Baltimore. And he's a 3-4 player... and a linebacker. We aren't exactly flush with those. But you're right, he didn't do squat in NE. But I'd give him a look, especially since he'll probably be rather affordable. I'd bet he goes back to Baltimore.

[Thoner7]

I would take Thomas in a heart beat. He doesnt have to be our best LB, just our forth best. But when you look at our LBers, he will be the best. When you can sign a FA and he instantly because you rbest line backer, how is that not an improvment?

[The Jokeman]

He was a great player in Baltimore. And he's a 3-4 player... and a linebacker. We aren't exactly flush with those. But you're right, he didn't do squat in NE. But I'd give him a look, especially since he'll probably be rather affordable. I'd bet he goes back to Baltimore.

Or he might go to the Jets to reunite with Rex Ryan and maybe ignite a light in the butt of Vernon Gholston.

[Thoner7]

I don't know why we are still drafting TE and WR when we haven't developed the ones that we have. No TE or WR will come in and demand a double team to pull pressure off of Lee Evans which is what we need. Wilfork or a Casey Hampton addition would be crucial. Adalius Thomas has not looked nearly as "beastly" since leaving Ray Lewis' side and I would not invest more than a year on Joey Porter...if we are trying to get an impact OLB we need to do everything we can to pull Merriman away from San Diego or find a younger player. It looks like he has worn out his welcome there.

 

I want Gronkowski from Arizona. He is from Amherst and one hell of a blocker at 6'6'', 265. If not for injury he was a lock 1st round pick. I guarantee he is there at our third round pick too. Honestly a Jason Witten clone. Would you be unpleased with a TE half as good as Witten in the 3rd round? I know I would love it for one.

[manbeast]

i really like Porter, and I think he has something to prove. But I wonder what the relationship between him and George Edwards is, since he is really unhappy with Miami because he wasn't getting playing time, and felt he deserved it.

I believe the problem was Parcells it does sound like something he would do.

[manbeast]

Joey Porter is a punk. He's done.

That's what they said about Randy Moss.

[billnutinphoenix]

Joey Porter, I've heard, will play for the Cards next year!!!

[manbeast]

Porter has two seasons left in the tank, and next year, at least statistically, will prove to be one of is best b/c he wants to show the Fins and the entire NFL that he's still an elite player. He's definitely an energizer and would bring some nastiness to our defense; however, with all of that said, I find it highly unlikely he'll land in Buffalo. My guess is that he'll wind up with a contender that already has a decent defense.

It won't be NE they are after Peppers.

[manbeast]

yea, my point is i want our defense to have an edge, an identity. for once i would like to see a team from buffalo have the nastiness, toughness, that goes with the town. the sabres are pussies, the bills have no identity. just once i would like to hear the rest of football acknowledge the toughness of the bills in some form.

We have an identity it just isn't a good one.

[manbeast]

Milloy was still a decent safety when we acquired him. Just because the Pats cut a guy doesn't mean they can't still be more productive than what we currently have on our roster. Would you not take Adam Vinatieri after they cut him? How about Seymour after they traded him? The Pats make a lot of ballsy roster decisions that sometimes result in good players getting the axe.

J.peppers would be a pretty good reson to cut Thomas.

[manbeast]

Porter was out played in Miami by Channing Crowder, and he doesn't like being the #2 LB on the team.I think he could make an impact to the extent of what Takeo did when he was on the team. As for Thomas i dont know much about him, I would rather save the money and get someone in the draft.

So Crowder had 51tkls, 1 sk 1int 0ff 0fr 3pd in

and Porter had 41tkls, 9 sks 0int 1ff 1fr 1pd

explain to me how Crowder out played him.