ColdBlueNorth Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Buddy Nix is respected throughout the league, but are candidates being turned off because Russ Brandon is being retained at a high level after serving as GM and seems to have the ear of Ralph? Are they concerned that they will not truely have the ability to build the team as they see best, too little money to spend on retaining or obtaining talent, or are folks just concerned that the succession of the organization has not been worked out? I am not one for panicking and although I liked the name and family tree of Schotty Jr. the fact that they came out throwing against our defense did nothing to impress me in regards to his offensive prowess. Buddy will get a good HC prospect in, but if it isn't a big name I don't think that it will soothe the troubled masses until we see that individual make some good moves for the team and prove he knows what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Buddy Nix is respected throughout the league, but are candidates being turned off because Russ Brandon is being retained at a high level after serving as GM and seems to have the ear of Ralph? Are they concerned that they will not truely have the ability to build the team as they see best, too little money to spend on retaining or obtaining talent, or are folks just concerned that the succession of the organization has not been worked out? I am not one for panicking and although I liked the name and family tree of Schotty Jr. the fact that they came out throwing against our defense did nothing to impress me in regards to his offensive prowess. Buddy will get a good HC prospect in, but if it isn't a big name I don't think that it will soothe the troubled masses until we see that individual make some good moves for the team and prove he knows what he is doing. The problem is RALPH WILSON! Jesus man get it already. He should have cleaned house in the front office as well, then went out of the org and hired someone the coaching world and media respect as a GM. NOT promoted from within AGAIN going with a guy 'he knew'. When ralph dies, THEN this team has a shot at being something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I can understand a guy like Cowher wanting to hand pick the perfect opportunity, but these coordinators are ridiculous. Personally, i have thrived when i joined a new company and the person i replaced was doing a really poor job (or the dept was doing poorly). Anything i did better....or above and beyond i was considered a great hire. It's kind of like when Parcells went to Miami after a 1-15 season. He cemented his legacy in part because the Phins were at rock bottom. He knew it would not be hard to improve on that. Also, look at Turner Gill when he came to UB. They were the dregs of D-1 football. The job was almost a no lose situation because even if he won 4 games his first year, he was awesome. Win 7 or 8 games at UB and he's a Hero. NOw look at him? The Bills are sitting in that "can't lose" type of situation for any competent coach out there. Add to the fact Ralph and Brandon are surely going to do some spending to get this team to the next level. They have seen the status quo and it hasn't worked. I believe they've learned. These potential coaches really need to see this as a great opportunity to get in when the chips are down and make a big name for themselves. All the ingredients are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I can understand a guy like Cowher wanting to hand pick the perfect opportunity, but these coordinators are ridiculous. Personally, i have thrived when i joined a new company and the person i replaced was doing a really poor job (or the dept was doing poorly). Anything i did better....or above and beyond i was considered a great hire. It's kind of like when Parcells went to Miami after a 1-15 season. He cemented his legacy in part because the Phins were at rock bottom. He knew it would not be hard to improve on that. Also, look at Turner Gill when he came to UB. They were the dregs of D-1 football. The job was almost a no lose situation because even if he won 4 games his first year, he was awesome. Win 7 or 8 games at UB and he's a Hero. NOw look at him? The Bills are sitting in that "can't lose" type of situation for any competent coach out there. Add to the fact Ralph and Brandon are surely going to do some spending to get this team to the next level. They have seen the status quo and it hasn't worked. I believe they've learned. These potential coaches really need to see this as a great opportunity to get in when the chips are down and make a big name for themselves. All the ingredients are there. Nice post, and i agree. If i was an OC i would surely get in their and try to work my magic and start building something IFF and thats a big IF the salary cap was staying in place. But i think where the worry come in is about the next few years. If the salary cap goes away teams like Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit will not be able to compete with the big spenders which means less pick of players, and a less quality product. I for one would not want to be thrown into a situation where it was guaranteed i would be losing out on players and eventually a staff and then games. To be put somewhere where you had almost no chance to win really plays into effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 All things being equal you're right, but the fact is that we have less information than the league insiders here. Schotty got advice from one or more people to avoid the opportunity, and I'm sure he also got assurances that better opportunities would open to him if he sits tight. Agents like Bob Lamonte are steering their clients away from Buffalo and there is a reason. And the same thing is gonna happen with free agents this offseason - just wait for that shoe to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 No yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 The problem is RALPH WILSON! Jesus man get it already. He should have cleaned house in the front office as well, then went out of the org and hired someone the coaching world and media respect as a GM. NOT promoted from within AGAIN going with a guy 'he knew'. When ralph dies, THEN this team has a shot at being something Guess I am not as quick as you Allowing for intervening mistakes made in the past, Ralph is like 200 years old and a multi-millionaire. If anything, folks that reach a ripe old age are more concerned with the legacy they will leave behind rather than obtaining more material things. That being said, I would not be so naive as to think that I know what motivates Ralph in particular. Dick said he could correct things and Ralph gave him free reign even though the signs of disaster were evident to even the most casual observers. It was not until another crotchety old rival from the NFL owner's Country Club gave him the finger that he actually cared enough to blow the mess up. We could have an ultra-competitive, willing to spend up the hilt kind of owner like Snyder in DC, but that really does not translate into victories on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 All things being equal you're right, but the fact is that we have less information than the league insiders here. Schotty got advice from one or more people to avoid the opportunity, and I'm sure he also got assurances that better opportunities would open to him if he sits tight. Agents like Bob Lamonte are steering their clients away from Buffalo and there is a reason. And the same thing is gonna happen with free agents this offseason - just wait for that shoe to drop. I think both Schotty Junior and Cowher are waiting to see what happens in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 What I find interesting are people who post on fan boards that somehow feel they know more than the OC's that are currently doing the job and can call their decisions "dumb". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 There are all kinds of reasons for turning down job opportunities, but Bills fans see things through only one VERY PARANOID lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 No Remarkable insight... as usual. I get the played-out Mantra of all will be better when Ralph dies from ICE, and an unsubstantiated "No" from you. I was actually hoping to get a response from someone who has some small insight into the Bills organization - then again, who isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisebill Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 As a objective long time Bills fan I hate to say it but there is way more downside than upside to this job. It's been posted before but... 91-year-old owner, with no public transition plan history of running out quality players 7 home games no franchise QB I could go on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Head coaching opportunities have not exactly come knocking for Mike Mularkey and Gregg Williams, have they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesir Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Who is Russ Brandon??? Its a name I hear often in relation to the Bills. I get the impression he is in a pretty important position, yet I don't ever remember hearing him speak at an important announcement by the Bills. I tend to believe he is some sort of "shadow" figure created by the organization as there seems to be no real evidence of his existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Every team has a "money guy" , Russ is not the problem , especially now that he has no say on personal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 The Bills are sitting in that "can't lose" type of situation for any competent coach out there. Not sure that's true. I think it's always a little bit harder to get a job if you're perceived to have failed at the job previously. There's merit to being selective about job opportunities, I think. In the end, hopefully it works out best for both the Bills and Schotty II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I can understand a guy like Cowher wanting to hand pick the perfect opportunity, but these coordinators are ridiculous. Personally, i have thrived when i joined a new company and the person i replaced was doing a really poor job (or the dept was doing poorly). Anything i did better....or above and beyond i was considered a great hire. It's kind of like when Parcells went to Miami after a 1-15 season. He cemented his legacy in part because the Phins were at rock bottom. He knew it would not be hard to improve on that. Also, look at Turner Gill when he came to UB. They were the dregs of D-1 football. The job was almost a no lose situation because even if he won 4 games his first year, he was awesome. Win 7 or 8 games at UB and he's a Hero. NOw look at him? The Bills are sitting in that "can't lose" type of situation for any competent coach out there. Add to the fact Ralph and Brandon are surely going to do some spending to get this team to the next level. They have seen the status quo and it hasn't worked. I believe they've learned. These potential coaches really need to see this as a great opportunity to get in when the chips are down and make a big name for themselves. All the ingredients are there. The buffalo job is a resume killer, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I can understand a guy like Cowher wanting to hand pick the perfect opportunity, but these coordinators are ridiculous. Personally, i have thrived when i joined a new company and the person i replaced was doing a really poor job (or the dept was doing poorly). Anything i did better....or above and beyond i was considered a great hire. It's kind of like when Parcells went to Miami after a 1-15 season. He cemented his legacy in part because the Phins were at rock bottom. He knew it would not be hard to improve on that. Also, look at Turner Gill when he came to UB. They were the dregs of D-1 football. The job was almost a no lose situation because even if he won 4 games his first year, he was awesome. Win 7 or 8 games at UB and he's a Hero. NOw look at him? The Bills are sitting in that "can't lose" type of situation for any competent coach out there. Add to the fact Ralph and Brandon are surely going to do some spending to get this team to the next level. They have seen the status quo and it hasn't worked. I believe they've learned. These potential coaches really need to see this as a great opportunity to get in when the chips are down and make a big name for themselves. All the ingredients are there. Bull ****. Pure and absolute homeristic bull ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 The Bills are sitting in that "can't lose" type of situation for any competent coach out there. Add to the fact Ralph and Brandon are surely going to do some spending to get this team to the next level. They have seen the status quo and it hasn't worked. I believe they've learned. These potential coaches really need to see this as a great opportunity to get in when the chips are down and make a big name for themselves. All the ingredients are there. Whew. That is an interesting perspective on the current Bills situation. !@#$ the glass being half full, that som'B word is overflowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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