Brandon Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 We'll just have to see how things shake out, won't we? PTR That works for me. I certainly don't want to concede a loss to an 8-6 or 7-7 team, which is likely what they'll be when the game is played in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Actually, I find this shaping up to be a very interesting audition for the Bills (and Fewell) over the rest of the season. Specifically, if you take yesterday's game into account, we'll be playing all of our division rivals in home games over a relatively short time period. Being able to take care of your division should always be the #1 priority of any head coach, especially at home. If you can't beat the teams in your division, you don't deserve to win the division. The Bills showed they can hang with and beat the Dolphins, even with a crazy, injury-depleted roster. The next test is against the Jets, who they already beat once on the road. Then it's the Patriots a couple of weeks later. Strong showings against all three could prove to be a very enticing draw for a prospective head coach. If they feel most of the pieces are already in place to take care of the division, it might make the job seem more attractive. Then again, if Fewell manages to beat all three division opponents over the next few weeks, with something like 13 or 14 players on IR, this man deserves much stronger consideration for the long-term job than we're currently thinking. At least in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 That works for me. I certainly don't want to concede a loss to an 8-6 or 7-7 team, which is likely what they'll be when the game is played in a few weeks. I see that the new attitude is rubbing off on you also. A few weeks back, I wasn't sure we could beat anybody. Your wording reflects my thoughts in that if we keep playing the way we did yesterday (and to a certain extent last week), we can beat some playoff contenders such as the Falcons. I am tempering my enthusiasm so I don't feel so confident about beating the Pats* or Colts but we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 PERRY ... WOW! Emotions ... GONADS ... kicking players butts and making them practice in the elements ... and going for the win without any let up ... keep scoring and playing until it is clearly all over. It's clear to me that 'The Dick' kept Perry bottled up because after all Jauron was the head coach. But, what we have seen is what we want from a head coach ... someone who cares ... someone who is bold ... and if you think about it, do we really want a new coach who is able to get a senior citizen discount when he goes out for dinner who was no longer wanted in his previous place of employment (Shanahan, Gruden, etc.)? What the BILLS need is a front office clean up ... spend some big bucks there and just chill a bit on the head coach search to see if we have found our diamond in the rough. The winning programs in the NFL today with few exceptions do not have coaches who were previously head coaches for other teams but who left those teams for their new program. Do we really want Holgram? Perry is willing to make changes ... and given the right support from the office he could very well be the guy. He may not be a "players' coach" who played the game and kisses up to them but in the end players want a winner who will give his all to win. Perry will scream at the ref's aka Big Bad Bill ... he will get in his players faces ... but he'll join them in celebration when good things happen. I can't wait for Thursday night ... and it's been a long time since I had this energy for a Bills game ... We can't judge Perry on his record because 'The Dick's' method of coaching has led to a team with so many injuries that I can't believe any blocking is happening on the field. Let's judge his energy and 'leadership' skills ... and let's keep him if things keep going like they have these first two weeks. I agree with TO ... this is a change that should have happened two weeks earlier (if not at the end of last season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 This is all a symptom of how bad it really was. Just like Buf News article comparing Fitz to Manning. When you have gone so long without knowing what good looks like, even slightly better than marginal looks good. Yes we are now watching a gamday run like the current roster seems to be built. Taking risks and playing to win. DJ played not to lose but never had the defense or power running to pull that strategy off. Fewell, is taking risks and allowing fitzP to take risks which make sense with the skill position players... I remain with many other posters here, maybe Fewell stays HC, maybe back to his old spot or maybe he goes, but a real GM is the need... Period. After that a real football guy can look at the organization and figure out what is broken, what is working, what is missing, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Speaking of which, when it was the third quarter, with the Bills down 14-7 and the good guys facing 3rd and 1 from the Miami 36, I actually thought to myself: this has to be two-down territory. Sure enough, Fitz tries the deep sideline pass to Lee, but misses short. Then on 4th and 1, they go for it and make it easily. That was one of the first times this season I felt like this coaching staff finally gets it. No doubt somebody else would have punted to try and pin them back, even though the other team had just finished a crazy 16-play 9-minute drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Speaking of which, when it was the third quarter, with the Bills down 14-7 and the good guys facing 3rd and 1 from the Miami 36, I actually thought to myself: this has to be two-down territory. Sure enough, Fitz tries the deep sideline pass to Lee, but misses short. Then on 4th and 1, they go for it and make it easily. That was one of the first times this season I felt like this coaching staff finally gets it. No doubt somebody else would have punted to try and pin them back, even though the other team had just finished a crazy 16-play 9-minute drive. WOW! Excellent point. I meant to mention yesterday, but it slipped my mind. That series of plays was.. mind blowing. If Ididn't know any better, I'd think they planned all along to go for it on 4th down; hence, they took the shot. Impressive. At the time, I was cursing... why try that bomb when all you need is a yard? Then what? You try a long FG? You punt? But, no, they lined up and went with a great play call to get the first down. It looked like a design QB run all the way to me. If any of our reporter, in the know, folks are reading this... any chance you could ask Fewell about those 2 plays?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Fewell. Fire, enthusiasm, agressive, coaches to win instead of coaching not to lose. The anti-Jauron. I like him. I'd give him the job. Take the $50 million they were going to give to Shannahan and get a good GM and some good players. I think head coach is the most overrated position in sports, especially in football. There are 20 assistants. What exactly can Mike Shannahan do that Perry Fewell can't? Yeah, Shannahan has won in the past. I think the players had more to do with that than the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Say Fewell wins 5 games, including a win over NE* and he goes 8-8 with a rag tag bunch of street free agents. The Bills are going to have a real hard time picking someone over him. Plus you are going to see a real division between fans wanting to stick with Perry and those who want the marquee hire. PTR Also if he walks on water. What are the odds he and the Bills beat the Pats? 5%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 Also if he walks on water. What are the odds he and the Bills beat the Pats? 5%? Maybe 10% at best. That's why it would be a huge deal if he does beat them. But I will say this, the Bills will be ready to play under Fewell instead of rolling over like Dick(less) Jauron. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbyte Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Maybe Perry is taking chances because he has nothing to lose. If the Bills lose the game so what! I doubt he would of tried that 59 yard field goal if the Bills were in contention for the wild ard right now. What if the Dolphins did not throw that stupid pass on 1-10 on the 1 yard line, the Bills would of been down 14 -0 and later 21 - 7. How would the game have turned out then> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Majeur Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 who gives a rats behind? If he keeps winning, what need is there to keep searching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Maybe Perry is taking chances because he has nothing to lose. If the Bills lose the game so what! I doubt he would of tried that 59 yard field goal if the Bills were in contention for the wild ard right now. What if the Dolphins did not throw that stupid pass on 1-10 on the 1 yard line, the Bills would of been down 14 -0 and later 21 - 7. How would the game have turned out then> What if the queen had a d^%K???? I hate the 'what if'. The fact is the Dolphins did throw that stupid pass..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 i still want Shanahan or Cowher. If neither can be had then Perry Fewell is a good choice for a HC. He is just as good as any other cordinator HC candidate out there. What i like about Perry is that he believes his players can make plays. It isn't taking a chance or rolling the dice. It's believing that you have NFL caliber players who should make plays. I have watched DJ make stupid decisions where you can hear the collective sigh from the players or a massive slump in the shoulders. He drained all emotion out of the players. DJ is a Sloth Demon. The best play of the game was the field goal that Ryan made. It was outside of his career long but Perry had him kick it. It put the Bills up by 3 points but that wasn't the best part. The best part was how the defense came out and played. The pass rush was there forcing Henne to make bad decisions. He threw a pick which led to a TO touchdown. It isn't taking chances it's believeing in your players. Something Perry understands and DJ will never figure out even on the golf course. Anyone who plays golf knows there is alot of time to think when you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrudginglyPessimistic Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Also if he walks on water. What are the odds he and the Bills beat the Pats? 5%? 100% chance WGR gives him grief for not being able to swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I think Fewell has done a good job firing the team up. However, I dont want to see him as the permanant coach. If anything he is coaching for HC consideration on another team. We need a HC that has experience and has the staff to bring with them. Guys like Shanny and Cowher have an idea of who they will bring in as coordinators. I doubt Fewell has those connections. Fewell could coach the Defense as Dungy did in Indy & AVP called a good game yesterday. Maybe with the rest of the season for experience & the offseason to prepare he might be a good OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Maybe Perry is taking chances because he has nothing to lose. If the Bills lose the game so what! I doubt he would of tried that 59 yard field goal if the Bills were in contention for the wild ard right now. What if the Dolphins did not throw that stupid pass on 1-10 on the 1 yard line, the Bills would of been down 14 -0 and later 21 - 7. How would the game have turned out then> MOST games are decided on a handful of plays. The Bills made those plays therefore they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 i still want Shanahan or Cowher. If neither can be had then Perry Fewell is a good choice for a HC. He is just as good as any other cordinator HC candidate out there. What i like about Perry is that he believes his players can make plays. It isn't taking a chance or rolling the dice. It's believing that you have NFL caliber players who should make plays. I have watched DJ make stupid decisions where you can hear the collective sigh from the players or a massive slump in the shoulders. He drained all emotion out of the players. DJ is a Sloth Demon. The best play of the game was the field goal that Ryan made. It was outside of his career long but Perry had him kick it. It put the Bills up by 3 points but that wasn't the best part. The best part was how the defense came out and played. The pass rush was there forcing Henne to make bad decisions. He threw a pick which led to a TO touchdown. It isn't taking chances it's believeing in your players. Something Perry understands and DJ will never figure out even on the golf course. Anyone who plays golf knows there is alot of time to think when you play. Good post. The only thing I would add is that Ryan was making that kick in Pregame so Perry & Ryan KNEW it was makeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I see there are still a lot of folks infatuated with Shanahan. To remind everyone, he failed miserably as the de facto GM in Denver. From Yahoo: "The point is that the '97 and '98 Shanahan magic might not be there anymore. In fact, in the ten years he coached since then, he's won in the playoffs just once. Now, I'm not one of those people who believe Shanahan only won because he had John Elway under center, but I do happen to believe that the ten years since then matter, too. When we last left Mike Shanahan, he'd lost half of his last 48 games, and missed the playoffs three straight years. He had made some brutal personnel decisions, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. He had even lost his magical ability to make a 1,000-yard runner out of anyone with two legs." Shanahan was a disaster as a de facto GM. Most peculiar was his fixation with former Cleveland Browns defensive linemen. From ESPN.com and Len Pasquarelli: "On Monday, the Broncos released defensive end Courtney Brown, the top prospect taken in the 2000 draft, but also one of the most star-crossed players in recent NFL history in his tenures with Denver and Cleveland. And less than 24 hours later, apparently because they had dipped below their self-imposed quota of onetime Cleveland front four players on the roster, the Broncos signed former Browns tackle and unrestricted free agent Alvin McKinley to a four-year, $8 million contract. It extended the Broncos' inexplicable fixation with former Cleveland defensive linemen, as McKinley, amazingly, became the eighth one acquired by Denver since 2005. The Browns-to-Broncos roll call: Denver traded for end Ebenezer Ekuban and tackles Gerard Warren and Michael Myers, all in 2005. Signed as free agents were Brown (2005) and Kenard Lang (2006) and tackles McKinley (2007) and Corey Jackson (2005). The Broncos also claimed end Amon Gordon on waivers (2006)." Shanahan also overspent for players and the payroll was burgeoning. This is another one of the reasons that Bowlen fired him. Those who would want him to run football operations here are either a bit strange or misinformed, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Say Fewell wins 5 games, including a win over NE* and he goes 8-8 with a rag tag bunch of street free agents. The Bills are going to have a real hard time picking someone over him. Plus you are going to see a real division between fans wanting to stick with Perry and those who want the marquee hire. PTR If Fewell can get this walking MASH unit to win games, it's going to be a hard decision to make. Best to wait until after game 16 and see where we are. Right now the euphoria from the Dolphin Whomping is pretty potent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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