Big Turk

Well...this scouting report looks very similar in a lot of areas to Keon Coleman's: Weaknesses Play strength might need upgrade against physical cornerbacks. Press rides on him for early stages of the route. Has had issues securing catchable throws underneath. Very average foot quickness and long speed. Could struggle to knock athletic corners out of route phase. Below-average separation burst out of breaks. Drifts into route turns at times. Lacks stride to open up and find a second gear. Very little grit in his run blocking. Anyone care to guess what WR scouting report this was for?

Probably the same was being said about the highest paid WR in NFL history now Amon Ra St Brown when he went in the.... 4th.

It doesn't matter until we see him play and how they will use him. Everything else is speculation that in all honesty is meaningless.

You've got all those 5th round picks...no way 10 rookies are making this team. Figure out a way to package one or two to go up and get Franklin.

Know who had the highest yards per target of anyone with 45 or more targets? Khalil Shakir. Aiyuk was 2nd. Don't sleep on Shakir...expecting big things this year and he is going to catch a lot of people sleeping

If we don't then Green Bay ASSUREDLY doesn't.

Shakir is going to be much more than a role player. The advanced metrics on him are spectacular and are screaming to give him the ball more.

Who knows? All the teams did the same thing to Amon-Ra St Brown when he was drafted in the 4th round and now he is the highest paid WR in NFL history

Well...there is no guarantee they are right either. Plenty of round 4 WRs end up as really good players that would have been taken in the first round of there was a "do over" 4 years later. I guess we would have to revisit it in 4 years to know, just like we would any pick really.

That's fair but if they plan on using him down on fade routes and as a big Red Zone target, that wouldn't be too important since he would be going up to get it like he was back playing basketball and boxing out the DB.

The one thing that stands out is that Coleman reached the top speed of any WR in the last 2 years in the gauntlet drill at 20.36 mph. That's situational speed which is more important than 40 times. 40 times are so dependant on your start and with bigger guys sometimes they don't have the right technique. That can cost them .1-.2 seconds right there. Look at Josh Allen...he didn't have a great 40 time but he runs away from DBs in the open field. The dude is fast...not just fast for a big QB, fast period. UPDATE: Just as I thought... Coleman's technique coming out of the starting blocks is among the worst I've ever seen. He almost stands straight up and kind of lunges which slows him down and almost gives him a weird hitch before he gets going. You are supposed to stay low and drive your lower body coming out of the blocks and Coleman doesn't do this at all... If you want to see terrible technique on how to run a 40, watch this video over and over again... Now, compare that to Xavier Worthy and watch how he basically uses the start to accelerate thru to an upright position gaining speed...Coleman LOSES speed while going upright and has to restart from zero almost after 2 steps while Worthy is already halfway to top speed...

Coleman doesn't look slow when you see him play. People don't understand that 40 times and play speed are two different things. You have guys that run great 40 times that play a lot slower on the field and then you have guys that don't run great 40 times that play a lot faster on the field. Allen didn't run a great 40 time but how many DBs does he run away from in the open field? The dude is moving out there. Coleman is the latter. 40 times come down to technique quite a bit...if you don't get a good start you can lose .2 seconds right off the bat with no real way to make up the time. Coleman reached 20.36 mph in the gauntlet drill which was the fastest speed of any of the WRs over the last 2 seasons. That doesn't seem slow to me. Coleman's 4.61 40-yard dash doesn't necessarily jump off the charts, but in the gauntlet drill at the NFL Combine, Coleman reached a top speed of 20.36 miles per hour – the fastest speed by a receiver over the last two seasons. "The 40 is no longer the most effective way to determine a player's speed," wrote ESPN’s Marcel Louis-Jacques earlier this year. "The value it once had to teams has diminished in its 80-year existence, as clubs turn toward other means – such as GPS tracking and analytical data – to fully understand how fast a player can move in football specific situations."

I'm wondering if they start trading some of those picks for a round up next year and turn a few of those 5ths into 4ths for next year's draft? Would be a nice way to add capital for next year and gain a round since there is no way 10 rookies are making this roster. Why draft players just to showcase them for other teams?

If we wanted a #1 the only ones that were guarantees were the top 3. Everyone after that is a crap shoot. None of them are coming in as day 1 starters as the #1 WR. Coleman is a big target, makes crazy catches in traffic and is a very good run blocker, something the Bills clearly value. Essentially he fills the Gabe Davis role with more upside and better hands.

Perhaps they don't value him as much due to Pac 10 not playing any D? Have a hard time believing 3 Washington WRs were better than him tho

5th year options outside of QBs aren't really that valuable anymore

Yup...and now he is still there at 89

Or at the very least were OK with picking either.

I see no way that the Bills would allow a team to trade up one spot to take the player they planned on taking at 33. No way...they would have asked them at the very least if they were trading up for "this player" and if they said yes then no deal.

He is still there at 87.

That doesn't make sense. Before you would trade a pick, why wouldn't you ask them if they planned on taking "this person"?

Yup...multiple other WRs have gone ahead of him, the latest was Roman Wilson.

Was Ronny Lackawana a Hall of Famer with almost 9K yards and 600 catches?

Former Eagles WR in the 80s who was pretty good.

SB Nation gave the Bills an A for the pick and said we are going to love Coleman and he plays much much faster than his 40 time and catches literally everything.