Big Turk

KC doesn't rely on the deep ball very much either tho...Mahomes has a ton of short stuff, taking what they give you. My biggest issue is the defense doesn't stop anyone in the playoffs when they lose. They are a good to great regular season defense that gets bludgeoned in the playoffs against good offenses. 38, 42 and 27(going on 50) in their last 3 playoff losses. That simply isn't good enough. Look at the SB Bills teams defense in the playoffs in big games. They performed far better than their rankings during the year(at least in the AFCCG). In the 4 AFC Championship games they played, the defense allowed 3, 7, 10 and 13 points. They didn't need the offense to do much to win those games, they held it down. Bills allowed more points to KC in their lone AFC Championship game(38) than that era's teams allowed in all 4 combined(33 points)! It's unacceptable and if McD REALLY wants to take a look in the mirror, he can't keep trotting Frazier out there on D in the playoffs. He needs to trade some regular season success for playoff success.

No Schottenheimer lost in the first round most years. Eventually they will fire on all cylinders and make it. Likely will rely on some bounces to go their way but in the playoffs who doesn't get bounces in a SB run? He looked exhausted too honestly. Hell, I texted my friend that *I* at times was exhausted this year with all the crazy stuff that happened during the year. This team desperately could have used a bye more than any team in NFL history most likely to reset and take a breather but they didn't get it. I think the extra energy they had to expend last week was probably energy that completely emptied the tank.

They can't keep getting destroyed on D in every playoff loss. It's one thing if they lost and the D played well. But in all 3 losses it looked like they were the worst defense in football. 30 first downs?? They allowed the same number to KC last year in the playoffs. It's embarrassing. The defense gets ultra timid and is so afraid of getting beat deep they give up constant free first downs underneath. I mean how many times did a Cincy receiver catch a ball with no Bill within 5 yards of him?? It was ludicrous. There has to be a better answer than whatever they are attemtping to do. Teams that are worse defensively during the regular season seem to play much better in the playoffs...why do we always play worse??

It's kind of amazing how often it works. That's not true either. They were exceptional this year at stuffing runs, led the NFL by a wide margin. Also led the NFL by a wide margin in forcing teams into 3rd and 11+ yards and 3rd and 7+ yards. Led the NFL in both of those by a wide margin also. DaQuan was a huge loss. He was a force inside that allowed everyone else to get favorable matchups. However he would have mattered little yesterday.

Not familiar with that area too much...that's down by Xavier and UC isn't it? I stayed and worked in Kenwood for 6 weeks in a motel when I first got there(company paid), and when I moved out there I believe I was in Mount Washington. I know I was east of the city and there was a long bridge I went over to get there. Milford was the next town over. Worked in Eastgate for a while also and downtown Cincy.

I mean that's not entirely accurate. They finished 2nd in the NFL in points allowed. The problem is against good offenses, they don't look like that team.

I mean it sounds good when you are 14 beers into a case...

Frazier needs to go I'm afraid. He consistently has no answers in the playoffs with top shelf defenses during the regular season. Defense has sucked in last 3 playoff losses and basically looked inept.

Yes let's trade Allen and Diggs for a bunch of draft picks and hope we strike gold again and likely come nowhere close to what we already have

#4 is the main thing I took out of it. They looked spent. Once you get to the point where there is nothing left to give it manifests itself physically and it was obvious both on the field and in the interviews where so many players said they had no energy today. Nothing else really matters because the team wasn't winning today no matter what they did or tried.

Yeah he is making $4.8 million next year and has $0 guaranteed so they can cut him and realize full cap savings.

I'm just going by you saying "very close". It certainly is not that.

Frazier isn't an easy keep for me at all. His schemes and playcalling get exposed against good teams and offenses in the playoffs. All 3 seasons the D has had no answers in the playoffs losses. 38, 42 and 27 points which felt like it could have been 50 if they really needed them. I'd take a D that isn't as good in the regular season but gets better in the playoffs. Instead we go the opposite direction.

Yeah, I mean I am fine with that. Defensively they will be a little worse but offensively they will get better. Offense is easier to be consistent with than defense in the NFL year to year.

I'd say if this game was played 100 times, today was probably the worst game out of the 100. To say the roster wasn't SB quality is going a little far for me. Disappointed with how things ended? Sure. Not a SB quality roster? Hard to argue that when they were the 1 seed almost all year and ranked #1 by all 3 analytic rankings by a wide margin.

Can we trade posters? I'll trade OP for "future considerations".

Huh? It's not very close at all. I lived there. Erie is very close. Rochester is very close. Cleveland is close. Pittsburgh is close. Cincinnati is between 6.5-7 hours

It helps, but ultimately it ends up being how good the pieces around him are on offense and defense.

Every team in the NFL deals with these risks eventually. It's a byproduct of how things work.

I doubt it. Frazier would be my choice. He has shown 3 straight years he can't get it done in the playoffs against good offensive teams. Dorsey was a rookie and probably will improve and learn like most first timers do. Will he ultimately be good enough? Who knows. Nobody does yet but he will likely get the chance to find out.

Also I think people don't realize that sometimes luck plays a huge role in winning a SB too. The Rams won theirs because the 49ers defender dropped a game sealing INT thrown right to him. Sometimes a bounce here or there or a dropped INT, etc can be the difference between winning and losing.

Based on? Manning won his first one after 7 years. Farve after 6. Rodgers after 6. Brees after 9. Elway after 15. I mean there is no "one way" to do it. This "window" talk gets a little old...there will basically be smaller and bigger windows throughout his career based on what's around him and on D.

This is one of the most insane posts of the year. Congrats. I see cliff jumping truly does bring out the crazies at times. They are not going to a "ground game". Give me a break dude. What's next? Do you want to turn Allen into a safe game manager?

I don't jump to conclusions, I let things actually play out. Way too many people here change opinions like the wind blows based on knee jerk reactions to a game, or a half, or a quarter or a drive.

They don't, Philly does.