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I would not be surprised at all...Chan is not a young man either...There could be plenty of excuses why he would hang his hat up... What I am more interested in...Is what then? What is the idea/plan if... Personally...And this is just me...I would then get rid of Nix, promote Whaley, and hire Perry Fewell...That's how I would start... Ideas?

BUT...Shanny now has a Franchise QB in tow, a good young RB, and some talent on the O-Line...The Defense was pretty solid before the injuries...A couple years from now Washington should be VERY good...There is SERIOUS hope in Washington...We have NONE...

It amazes me how some Coaches, like Wanny, are not better students...A DC like LaBeau is the master...Why not LEARN form that? The fact that The Bills continue to run out this failed scheme week after week is mind-numbing...Put on the tapes Dave...Learn something... I think this is what happens when you grab Coaches who are removed from having big-time success in the NFL either as Coordinators or Assistants...When was Wanny last considered a great Defensive mind in the NFL? Or even in College? When was Gailey considered a great HC ever? You get what you get when you hire Coaches like that...It rarely works...The NFL moves WAY too fast...

Agreed...Lived in Charlotte for the better part of the last 21 years, and I was shocked to see Hurney made it as long as he did...Especially after Fox got the boot...

Impossible to argue this point...

I know there was an Article during Training Camp that he was 340 plus...He was fine with it btw...From what I can remember at least...He was 319 at his Combine...

Well...That's that...

Defense bails out the Rookie Punter...Who would have thunk it?

I had to pinch myself...

OMG! What just happened?...

It's a joke...It's just so bad...

Agreed...

Wow...

It's physical enough on the Line...It's a trickle down thing...

They just get beat by tough Offensives...Especially against tougher O-Lines...Not necessarily multi-talented Offenses...But tougher one's...They get out-toughed...

Hopefully The Bills go on to crush the Titans...But I have to say I had a bad feeling about this Game...And that opening drive pretty much summed up what I was thinking...This Titans team physically thumped the Bills last year...I don't like this match-up...We'll see...

I'm not saying by any means that Bray is ready, or that he does not have his issues...But in the 3 Games I've seen of him this year I've seen a TON of dropped passes...A couple that would have been easy TD's...And there is no question he can sling it...I doubt he's ready for the NFL...He needs work and another year in College...But he's not a joke...And he's got a big-league arm...

I'm still VERY high on Geno...And I'm liking the fact that he's starting to look a little human...Maybe he does not go #1 Overall, and The Bills actually get a chance to Draft him...Here's to hoping...

Just my opinion...But the fact that anyone would have the guts to write that here, let alone that it may very well be true already, is proof positive of how Dareus has underachieved to this point...Marcell still has plenty of time to turn this around...I hope he's got the fire in his belly to do so...

Well...I understand why Bills Fans would back Dareus over Miller...He's our guy...But if nearly everyone on this board made that decision purely based on play, and impact, then they would simply be idiots... NFL GM's get fired everyday for would-have's and should have's...The record speaks for itself...Go ahead and make excuses...Call it lazy evaluation, though I really don't know how else a GM can be evaluated other than how his Picks pan out, and who he could have Drafted instead...But anyway...It's their job to pick the right guy...If they don't, they don't last...You can call it whatever you want...It is what it is...And 95% of NFL Teams would take Green, Jones, Peterson, Watt, or Smith ahead of Dareus today...Now...Maybe in a couple years that will change...But if not, Nix blew the Pick...Period...And look, Dareus did not lose his Brother last year while he was anchoring a D-Line that was one of the worst in the NFL vs the Run...So please...Nobody wants Marcell Dareus to excel and be a Pro-Bowler more than I do...Nobody...But some of y'all act like the Kids mommy...You don't hold him accountable for his actual play...He's a Professional...He was the #3 overall player in the entire 2011 Draft...He needs to be better...Every game he needs to get better... If you think Dareus has lived up to the #3 overall pick I don't know what to tell you because you're not processing the information available via his actual play on the field ...So it's useless to argue the point...

Could not disagree more...Sure Green makes Dalton better, but Stevie Johnson is pretty good...He gets open a lot...And Fitz misses him a lot...I'm 100% certain that if given the opportunity Dalton would hit more big plays in this Bills Offense...He would hit more WR's in stride...He would scramble better than Fitz...You name it...He's a 2nd year QB with a career Passer Rating of 83.7 (91.7 so far this Season) and he's still just learning...Fitz had 4 years in the NFL by the time he got his 20th Start, and he still could not get his Passer Rating over 70...Fitz has 1196 more career passing attempts than Dalton...Dalton has 10 more TD's than INT's in 21 Starts...Fitz has 7 more TD's than INT's in 58 Starts...So...

This is exactly the right point... At the time a Dareus/Williams 1/2 seemed pretty decent...they certainly carried worthy grades based on where they were Drafted...But this is The Buffalo Bills we're talking about...And you have to figure these Kids will underachieve... Dareus has certainly had his moments...BUT... AJ Green, Julio Jones, Patrick Peterson, JJ Watt, Aldon Smith anyone? Good grief those are 5 REALLY good young players...I mean...Those 5 guys figure to be perennial Pro-Bowlers...That hurts... I thought Aaron Williams had turned the corner (no pun intended) late last season when, at times at least, he was The Bills best player on Defense (ok...I admit that is NOT saying much)...But this year it seems he's reverted back to that CB we saw get toasted early on in his Rookie year...If anyone remembers, Williams had one of the worst pre-seasons I've seen in a long time for a CB...He got beat bad early on...Then before he got hurt last year, and a little after, he did not look much better...The thing is, Williams does not appear to have the quick's to keep up with NFL WR's...I think straight line he's OK...But he's not fluid enough...And his critics who said he was better suited at Safety in the NFL are looking pretty smart right now...Now combine that with the obvious fact that The Bills Drafted Williams ahead of Andy Dalton...Dalton may not be perfect...But he's young, big enough, he's a competitor, and he was a HUGE winner in College...The Bills also could have had LB Bruce Carter...I have one friend who is a die-hard Cowboys Fan...He tells me Carter is a future star in the NFL at LB...He's currently 2nd on the Team in Tackles and may be one of the fastest LB's in the NFL (and yes I know about his injury as a Sr...That's why he lasted into the 2nd Round)...Anyway...The big miss was still Dalton... So...once again it looks like The Bills took the wrong guy...When you are looking at Premium Picks only (1st-3rd Rounds), Nix has simply not done good enough...Spiller is definitely a home-run threat...But The Bills still could have Lynch and Jackson at RB, and JPP at DE instead...Troup...Well...You know...Carrington? Umm...Hindsight may very well be 20/20, but sometimes it stings a little more...Like knowing that NaVorro Bowman went 18 Picks after Carrington...Ouch, ouch, ouch...Kelvin Sheppard has certainly not looked like anything spectacular...This years pack (Gilmore, Glenn, and TJ Graham) looks decent now...But how much would any Bills fan gamble that it will look as good next year, and the year after that? It just has not gone that way enough for this Scouting Department for whatever reason... Nix said The Bills would build through the Draft...And he has done well to stick by that claim...The problem is if you are going to do that you have to hit a few home runs in the 1st-3rd Rounds...If you go three years and hit on 6 of those 9 players...now you're REALLY getting somewhere...Right now, of Buddy's nine, only Spiller and Glenn could be called potential home runs...Dareus is a decent Starter, but considering many felt he was the best prospect in the entire 2011 Draft, to this point the argument can be made that he has seriously underachieved...Gilmore looks like he could be a solid Starter at CB, but he's also struggled a bit as a Rookie and looked REAL bad on some plays...He's also looked good on others...You have Williams and Shep who are below average Starters...TJ Graham who looks like he may become a decent 2nd or 3rd WR...Carrington is a back-up DT and FG blocker...Troup is all but done...Not exactly what Buddy planned on with this Scouting Department...Not at all...

I'm pretty sure it has more to do with Fitz's actual play...More is expected now...Regardless of the Defense... The Defense has been terrible at times...The Bills have HUGE holes there right now...No one could question that...But I think most Fans are not confusing the Bills ability to win now by playing better Defense, with the opinion that Fitz is not good enough...I'll just point to those 6 Passes vs NE and SF where Fitz missed open receivers deep, ...Even in losing efforts, if Fitz was hitting the big plays that are there in this Offense, he could shut everybody up in a half-a-heartbeat... But it really matters not...I'm sure we can pick this argument up again at the end of the Season...

Ouch!