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Meathead vs. Belichick, nice.

I don't think Bob Kalsu played 3 years.

Looks more like Fred Sanford's son than Lamont.

Awesome! Butch Byrd next, please.

He's definitely shown flashes of greatness. A few months ago, I was an advocate for keeping him & seeing if he could earn his next contract, and I was truly shocked when he was traded.... but looking at the way this is all playing out, I have no problem with him being gone. Onward and upward!

"Damn straight."

Indeed. Whaley was a disaster.

Which players drafted by the old regime(s) have proven without question to be stone-cold, rock solid NFL players? Looking at last year's roster, I'd say Gilmore (though some would debate that), the ancient Kyle Williams, and the usually healthy Cordy Glenn. Not a one from any of Lil Doug's boards.

I think true productivity would definitely win out; unrealized (for whatever reasons) talent, not so much. When in doubt, ship it out. I do believe these moves represent a statement that has been made loud and clear throughout the organization and to the fanbase: the past is completely unacceptable, and change is here. If you really liked at least some aspects of what you saw from this team, you may be disappointed. Me, I can't remember the last time I was this excited for the future, even if this year ends up being a bust.

Looking past the injuries and the future $$$, he's a Whaley guy... and he's also very much a Brandon guy.

Marcus Price, decent back-up OT who always looked better than Mike "Puddinhead" Williams. DB Cliff Hicks, nice waiver-wire pick-up in the SB-era, I never cringed when he was on the field. Shane Nelson, one of the best undrafted Bills ever. Marlo Perry, I don't know why but I always liked him. Conrad Dobler, just a beast. Earl Edwards, Lucius Sanford, Charles Romes, Kurt Schulz, and of course Leon Joe.

Amen. Also, it's so refreshing to see quick moves taking place to correct past mistakes. Once you have determined that a player for whatever reason is not the answer, cut your losses and move on, don't hope and pray for a miracle. It's still unbelievable that EJ stayed on this team for 4 years.

Actually, this is a tough one to judge if you're just looking at board reaction. Most of the people who are almost always wrong hate the moves, but there are some highly accurate posters like Badol who don't like them either. Me, I subscribe to the need for a scorched earth poilcy, so I am enjoying seeing everything about the past regime(s) thrashed and trashed. Even if McD & Beane are not ultimately successful in the end, this had to be done to truly begin anew.

Thanks for the intel.

Another Whaley gem.

Whaley fans will get the last laugh when Lil Doug gets his next GM gig, bank on it!

Another Whaley gem.

If I were so inclined to trade KW, I would send him to the Jets if they gave me the best offer.

If TT was out for a long time, absolutely. And anyways, I've said it before and I'll say it again: this board is always better when people are pissed.

I wouldn't trade Clay, he looks pretty good to me this pre-season.