Rico

Just say NO to any drought-era Bills coming back.

All good will that Marv generated with me as HC of the Bills got pissed away with the clown show that started in 2006... so it may not be fair but I would have to say yes, GO McD!

The heat maps don't lie.

I don't think he ever did come back, but I wish he would! Heat maps FTW!

The Big Cat.

Drew Bledsoe in the modern NFL would be fun, good for lots of laughs.

Your recollection of the game also reinforces that eyeball test trumps W-L or stats. Trust what you see above all.

Sounds like he had a good game. I do have to qualify one thing about my QB takes. In this day and age of the NFL, I am not very easily impressed by any QB. I do not think they compare favorably to QBs from past years with non-fantasy football rules. That's a big reason why I prioritize W-L records. Even with that, I don't like him but I still have mad respect for Brady, he has gotten the job done more than anyone.

Don't get me wrong, I believe you. I'm just saying you can't tell that's true by just looking at a box score stat line.

Marino’s numbers looked dramatically worse going into the 4th quarter of those losses. How much worse? I would have to dig in deeper, which I do not care to do because stats are for losers. As for you or anyone else who dismisses W-L records for a QB, we can just agree to disagree, whatever works for you.

There are a lot of numbers next to Dak’s name in that link, mostly good. Also 1 interception and 2 sacks. Were any of those 3 plays critical mistakes on his part that made a big difference in a close game? Can’t tell by looking at that link, not without doing a deeper dive, preferably by watching the game. What I do know by looking at that link is that he was the QB and his team did not win the game. L.

And that's why you can't really use stats when evaluating QBs. For instance, take a look at the numbers from one of Dan Marino's playoff losses with Miami to the Bills during the SB years. If you did not see those games, you would think he played pretty well. Only he looked like a deer in headlights until the game was out of hand, then put up all his yards/points in garbage time. W-L record isn't perfect, but it is absolute. You either got it done, or you did not.

Not really slamming him, not really slamming Watson (maybe a little in other threads just for goofs cause of his current status with the Texans). Right now though, I would take Wilson over either of them if I wanted to win now. Wilson has been a big-game winner and passes the eyeball test. The other 2 may look good, but 1-2 doesn't cut it for me if I can have a proven Wilson. Just for comparison's sake, Big Ben has been a big-game winner, but he doesn't pass the eyeball test now, not at all.

No doubt it is better to be 1-2 in the playoffs than never get there at all. Good thing is he's still very young and has the potential to exceed that record... we will see.

Biggest of games = 1. Super Bowl 2. Playoff Games Eyeball test is still important. Remember though, this is the NFL, where (as Bill Belichick once said), stats are for losers.

Playing what-if is always fun. If they don’t draft Wilson and Tarveras Jackson is still their QB, they probably don’t win a SB. If 2021 Prescott or Watson is the Seahawks QB in 2013, they might have still won a SB. We do know what actually happened though. Seahawks won that SB, and Wilson played a major part. Maybe not THE major part, but a major part nonetheless. We also know that neither Prescott nor Watson have experienced that kind of success yet. If and when they do, I will give them the props they deserve.

I never said it was 100% fair. It's not always fair. But there are 3 indisputable facts: 1. Nothing is more important in the NFL than winning the Super Bowl. 2. You can't win a Super Bowl if you can't win in the playoffs. 3. It's impossible to win a Super Bowl if you do not make the playoffs. There is also a 4th 'fact' which has been almost always true with the exception of a few outliers: 4. The QB is very important and a major factor for any team that has won a Super Bowl. With that have been said, I choose to ultimately judge QBs based on look test and bottom-line results in the biggest of games. I find that to be more valid than look test accompanied by the sometimes frantic spinning and twisting of stats to justify what is believed to be seen. YMMV.

I don't really like the idea of spending $ on any player that the Lions can't use.

I can only speak for myself, but with Cam, it's not a white/black thing or a good attitude/bad attitude thing. It's this:

Well, I'm a Josh Allen homer and I never liked Sanchez, so I would have to say no. Nevertheless, neither Dak at 1-2 nor Deshaun at 1-2 have experienced as much bottom-line success in the playoffs as either of them TO DATE. Do they have the potential to do better? Sure. Have they shown it yet? No.

Both are 1-2 in the playoffs.

I agree on the age difference, only Wilson has won big in this league and Watson hasn’t. I think Watson and Prescott are very similar if you look at bottom-line results. Cowboys are probably best served in the end by paying Zac and not giving away any other assets.

Wilson is better than Watson though, and you save a 1st.

Cowboys would be better served by trading Dak and a first for Wilson.