Rico

And that's why you can't really use stats when evaluating QBs. For instance, take a look at the numbers from one of Dan Marino's playoff losses with Miami to the Bills during the SB years. If you did not see those games, you would think he played pretty well. Only he looked like a deer in headlights until the game was out of hand, then put up all his yards/points in garbage time. W-L record isn't perfect, but it is absolute. You either got it done, or you did not.

Not really slamming him, not really slamming Watson (maybe a little in other threads just for goofs cause of his current status with the Texans). Right now though, I would take Wilson over either of them if I wanted to win now. Wilson has been a big-game winner and passes the eyeball test. The other 2 may look good, but 1-2 doesn't cut it for me if I can have a proven Wilson. Just for comparison's sake, Big Ben has been a big-game winner, but he doesn't pass the eyeball test now, not at all.

No doubt it is better to be 1-2 in the playoffs than never get there at all. Good thing is he's still very young and has the potential to exceed that record... we will see.

Biggest of games = 1. Super Bowl 2. Playoff Games Eyeball test is still important. Remember though, this is the NFL, where (as Bill Belichick once said), stats are for losers.

Playing what-if is always fun. If they don’t draft Wilson and Tarveras Jackson is still their QB, they probably don’t win a SB. If 2021 Prescott or Watson is the Seahawks QB in 2013, they might have still won a SB. We do know what actually happened though. Seahawks won that SB, and Wilson played a major part. Maybe not THE major part, but a major part nonetheless. We also know that neither Prescott nor Watson have experienced that kind of success yet. If and when they do, I will give them the props they deserve.

I never said it was 100% fair. It's not always fair. But there are 3 indisputable facts: 1. Nothing is more important in the NFL than winning the Super Bowl. 2. You can't win a Super Bowl if you can't win in the playoffs. 3. It's impossible to win a Super Bowl if you do not make the playoffs. There is also a 4th 'fact' which has been almost always true with the exception of a few outliers: 4. The QB is very important and a major factor for any team that has won a Super Bowl. With that have been said, I choose to ultimately judge QBs based on look test and bottom-line results in the biggest of games. I find that to be more valid than look test accompanied by the sometimes frantic spinning and twisting of stats to justify what is believed to be seen. YMMV.

I don't really like the idea of spending $ on any player that the Lions can't use.

I can only speak for myself, but with Cam, it's not a white/black thing or a good attitude/bad attitude thing. It's this:

Well, I'm a Josh Allen homer and I never liked Sanchez, so I would have to say no. Nevertheless, neither Dak at 1-2 nor Deshaun at 1-2 have experienced as much bottom-line success in the playoffs as either of them TO DATE. Do they have the potential to do better? Sure. Have they shown it yet? No.

Both are 1-2 in the playoffs.

I agree on the age difference, only Wilson has won big in this league and Watson hasn’t. I think Watson and Prescott are very similar if you look at bottom-line results. Cowboys are probably best served in the end by paying Zac and not giving away any other assets.

Wilson is better than Watson though, and you save a 1st.

Cowboys would be better served by trading Dak and a first for Wilson.

Yep. As a result, I think the Ratface comparison doesn’t work at all. I do think he compares very favorably though to Deshaun Watson, very similar accomplishments in the NFL.

Clemson is not the NFL, Lil Biscuit.

No doubt... if you’re the Texans though and you truly believe that Lawrence can become a big-time big-game winner, you make that trade. I don’t see that quality in Watson.

You may end getting a lot more playoff wins with Lawrence if he pans out than you would with Watson.

Just curious, what did you think of Mariota his first couple years or so in the league? Myself, I’ve always thought he was garbage.

BS franchise from Day 1.

Yeah, but his stats don’t lie.

Look at the bright side: if his body finally explodes from the massive amount of roids he’s taken over the years, no one can pin that on the Bills.

They should try to trade for Deshaun Watson now, may move them up to 2nd or 3rd.

He went from one BS team that no one cares about to another BS team that no one cares about.