reddogblitz

Isn't that what we're tanking and losing for? To get players good enough for us to get to the Super Bowl AND win? Average players we already had.

Like the cat lady on the Simpsons. that's what I took it to mean anyway.

I thought we were legit contenders last year and expected we'd be closer this year. Few teams go from cellar dweller to SB contenders over night. Most are good for a few years (like last year) and incrementally improve til they break through. Thinking New Orleans, Denver, and Seattle here.

No it didn't. I know this is the popular belief but it didn't. We had a team that won 9 games last year. It just needed to be improved. We're still paying Hotrod and Darreus and others this suck egg year. Hotrod was on the last year of his contract for crying out loud. I would prefer we had them playing for us letting our "franchise QB" learn and work on fundamentals like Mahomes did last year and start next year. The idea that you want players on your team that DON'T want to start is crazy. I want every guy to want to start and work hard on his craft to get there. Not guys happy to ride the pine and collect a paycheck. Pro style offenses score points. Before McDermott came along we were in the top 3rd of the league in scoring. They ruined it last year and made it even worse this year. This whole notion that if you don't like the rebuild it means you are satisfied with an average team is silly. Of course I'm not. I just have a different idea on how to get there than you do. We keep losing like this with decent D and miserable QBing and McDermott is losing the locker room if he has not already. Shady doesn't sound too happy. this is career suicide for him. Just boggles my mind that you not only accept losing, but in fact embrace it. I was not raised footbally that way. Have fun with the losing.

I hope so too! Go Bills !!

I'm not asking them to run on fan sentiment. I'm just asking them to put the best team on the field they can and try to win. Doesn't seem like too much to ask. I realize the bolded but I don' t have to like it and don't. I do think I should be entitled to expect them to at least try to win every game. The other part to this is I probably don't have a ton of seasons left. I HATE to waste any of them losing in hope that maybe someday they might win again. It is far from a given. If you're happy with it though, good for you.

I'm only going on what I see so far. Have either shown you anything to make think they will be? Zay has played better this year but the chances of him being a AJ Green or Julio Jones or even Robert Woods level WR appears slim. but anything is possible. Same could be said of Josh. Based on what I've seen I have little hope that he can ever be a drop back accurate pocket passer on the level of say Matt Ryan or Carson Palmer. That's what I'm saying. I believe guys can be good once they are, you know, good.

Sorry man, but it didn't have to be. It was a a choice. Can we be mad if they draft and sign FAs as ineffectively in the off season as they have the last 2? what makes you think they will make better decisions? they might, I'll give you that, but it's totally a wing and a prayer at this point.

I am a season ticket holder and what I gave them was not "throwaway" money. This whole tank losing nonsense is a slap in the face disrespectful move to people who put their money where their mouth is in regards to supporting the Bills.

Amen my brother. this whole cap thing is nonsense. They did it to themselves. It didn't have to be like this.

Last year they repeatedly said the plan was to rebuild AND win. What happened to that? Last year they also said we were rebuilding and we won 9 games. Was that not a rebuild even though they said it is. this team did not need to "rebuild". they needed to reload.

Losing 2 defensive guys blew up the team. OK.

I'll believe they can draft and sign good offensive players, when they, you know, actually do. So far they are 0 for 2. KB, Zay, Tolbert, DiMarco, Wonder Boy... Passed on Mahomes, Watson, Ridley ... Impressive track record thus far

This line reminds me of the BS line my Mom used to feed me that if I was a good boy Santa would bring me more toys.

i don't know about you, but based on what we've had for the last 19 years, back to back conference championships and getting within a few yards of a SB win sounds pretty sweet. I would just hope our coach doesn't quit and bolt for college football. That's what destroyed that team IMHO.

OK. I'll just look at the guy that went to back to back NFC Championships and was a few yards short of winning the SB.

Thanks for the link. I did read it. However it nowhere mentioned losing. It was mostly conjecture by the author. There is only 1 quote from Beane in there which does not mention losing or getting worse to get better.

I edited my post to address that while you were posting. I explain it there.

That's your opinion. You have yours, I have mine. The decision to start Gabbert over Colin was based on contract, not talent. Once they got that straightened out, he started. In his final season in 11 starts he passed for 2241 yards and ran for 468 yards. He threw 16 TDs and 4 picks with a 90.8 rating. You're right, that sucks. We have guys that can do better right now. Right? We signed Barkley and Anderson who are turn over machines and also haven't played in a couple of years. How does that make any sense if you're trying to win? Evidently we are not which is sad.

That's what they're saying now because they totally mis evaluated the QB talent on hand and have had to start schmucks. Surely that was not the plan. Now they're making excuses. When did the Saints "rebuild"? When did the Packers "rebuild"? When did the Steelers "rebuild"? This better work or they will be out on their bun shortly. They have pissed away any extra runway they may have earned last year by making the playoffs year 1.

I think it's sad that some Bills fans have gone from playoff euphoria last year to not just accepting losing, but embracing it this season. Seems odd to me. Certainly not the way I was football raised. Being the starting QB on a SB team will have marketers crawling out of the woodwork to sign you to an endorsement contract. He's also really good at football.

Beats audio did.

The usual result of a tank is getting fired. Bill Parcells said "The coach that is rebuilding is rebuilding for the next coach that comes in." Certainly was the case for Gus Bradley and Jim Caldwell. If these guys don't turn it around quickly they will face the same fate IMHO.

Who said that? Beane and McDermott told us the plan was to rebuild and win at the same time. Seemed to be working last year.