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I'm keeping my reply to QBs drafted in the 1st three rounds. One could argue that these guys rotted on the bench & were ruined by not playing them & it would be just as ridiculous as saying that playing a rookie QB can ruin him. All these players were dropped by the team that drafted them after they sat as rookies & beyond. Obviously, I don't believe you can ruin a QB by playing him, it's just an excuse used by fans & others when their team's QB busts because he should never have been drafted in the 1st place. If there was a vote who the worst coach in the NFL is, I think the record speaks for itself & Hue Jackson would win in a landslide. So what did the NFL's worst coach do? He went out and traded for a veteran QB before the draft and named the guy the starter no matter what his rookie looked like upon arrival in Cleveland. If Hue Jackson is an advocate of sitting a rookie QB, how good an idea can it possibly be. Guys who rotted on the vine Davis Webb-just last year the Giants drafted him in the 3rd round. When Eli got benched they went to Geno Smith instead of him. That zapped his confidence beyond repair & the Giants cut him before he could ever play a game because staying on the bench ruined him. Christian Hackenberg-The Jets mothballed him for 2 seasons. By the end of 2 seasons, all that time on the bench had scarred him beyond repair. Not even the mighty Jon Gruden could fix the guy. Brock Osweiler-Imagine how many Pro Bowls this guy would have been in if he hadn't been ruined by sitting behind Peyton Manning as a youngster? He withered and lost all confidence comparing himself to a future Hall of Famer. Every time Peyton threw a TD pass, Osweiler's doubts about his own abilities multiplied. Sitting behind a star like Manning ruined his confidence in himself. Ryan Mallett-Here's another player ruined by sitting behind a future HOFer. Every game Brady won, almost singlehandedly, destroyed Ryan Mallett's confidence. Brian Brohm-Sitting behind future HOFer Aaron Rodgers zapped his confidence so badly that he was cut & put on the practice squad in his sophomore year. Thinking he could resurrect this broken man, the Bills "stole" him off GB's practice squad, but just one year of watching Rodgers play had ruined him beyond repair. Kevin O'Comnell-Another one of Tom Brady's victims. Finally-Just think of the career JP Losman would have had if he hadn't broken his leg or had Drew Bledsoe to sit behind as a rookie. That year behind Bledsoe destroyed the can't miss Losman. I could go on & on with this ridiculous list, just as advocates that you can ruin a QB can make their own lists. Playing QB in the NFL is tough. A guy either has it or he doesn't, no matter when he 1st goes into the action as a starting QB.

I would bring in a veteran, cut Peterman & re-sign him to the practice squad.

Gary Marangi, set futility records that still stand today. It doesn't matter that he came in because of an injury, he was #2 for multiple seasons and was proven to never have deserved to be #2. Never played another NFL down after starting.

No, it's you who doesn't understand the modern NFL. In today's game a GM trades UP for his QB, just look at the actions of multiple GMs, who know a lot more than you do. Here's the reality of how teams acquire their QBs these days: In the past 5 years there have been 14 QBs drafted in the 1st round. Of those 14 QBs only 4 were drafted by a team that didn't move up in the draft to take them. Those 4 were 2 #1 overall & a #2 & #3 where the teams had no intention of trading the pick. The other 10 were all acquired via a trade up. 6 years ago the Bills did the opposite & traded down to get their QB, we all know how that went. So when the Bills traded up for Allen, they were finally joining the modern NFL where you do whatever is necessary to get the QB you want. We won't know for sure if this worked out, but I trust Beane a lot more to be a current GM than the antiquated ideas of Buddy Nix & his protégé, Doug Whaley. As a result of teams no longer waiting for a QB to fall to their spot in the draft, of the 32 teams, 24 have either a starter or soon to be starter who was a 1st rounder. To see how difficult it is to find your man in the later rounds of the draft, here's a look at the projected starters (this includes all teams that drafted a 1st round QB this year who they expect to be starting no later than next season).Starters or soon to be starter. I count Allen as a soon to be a starter. 1st round :232nd round: 43rd round: 14th round: 26th round: 1 Undrafted 1

I'll be there Sec 127 Row 9 Seat 15. I'm flying in & out the same day. Catching a train that gets me to downtown Baltimore at 11:06 AM.

The only person I ever heard called Charlie Hustle is Pete Rose. The best way to describe Steady Eddie is he's a guy a father wants his daughter to date but who she finds too boring to want anything to do with.

He was no Todd Collins, who lasted in the league a long time after the Bills let him go & had a short run of success late in one season in Washington when he had to dust off a decade of pine riding.

You do what the 2004 NY Giants did. They started the veteran (Warner) the 1st 9 games. Then at 5-4, on a 2 game losing streak, they threw in Eli Manning, even though he wasn't ready. It worked out well & the Giants won 2 Super Bowls and Manning is still their QB in 2018. The rest of the story is Eli lost his 1st 6 games, sometimes looking totally lost in his 1st 4 starts. In the last 3 games of the season, the light came on and even though it took until the season finale for the Giants to win their 6th game, the experience was invaluable to Manning. The next year the Giants won the NFC East going 11-5. The goal is to become Super Bowl champs, not mollify the fans who don't have the patience to go to a game and see the team lose even though in a year or two that loss will have helped build a championship contender and an eventual champion.

Not from what was on the field but in 1986 the USFL had basically gone out of business & the Bills were playing their 2nd preseason game at Houston. Jim Kelly was in a box with Ralph. I was living in Suffolk County L.I. at the time and I was listening to a very static filled broadcast on WBEN. Art Schlichter was terrible on the field, but Van was talking about Kelly and the chances he'd be signing shortly with the Bills. I was starving for Bills news and I had to really strain through the static to hear WBEN.

Go get Tasker a raise. Do your job.

Now Tasker's agent chimes in. The Buffalo Destroyers don't exist anymore for EJ to be our QB today. EJ's been sitting for a few years now and nobody in the NFL would want him as their starter. The ruined a QB stuff is absolute nonsense.

He hasn't been any better than Allen, everyone has been better than McCarron. . He looks good on paper because of his completion %. I don't have as high an opinion of Peterman as you, that doesn't mean I hate him. He can be a good backup but I wouldn't want him as my starter. At best he can be good, Allen at best will be great. I want great, not good. I want Allen to start from day 1, learn on the job & be ready to lead a Super Bowl contender in 2019. I don't want to be KC, whose 2nd year QB is learning on the job in his sophomore year.

After the Cleveland game Tasker said on the TV broadcast he favored Peterman to start opening day. This whole week, all Tasker has been doing on his WGR show with Murphy is shill for Peterman. He's talked up Peterman more than the guy's agent would if he had a radio show.

I don't think so. I think he was too uncertain about the injury and his plan all along was to do whatever it took to draft Allen. It wasn't a well kept secret that the Bills wanted Allen. I've read that Cleveland didn't want Allen but knew the Bills did and floated rumors they were going to take Allen at #1 presumably to see if the Bills offered a king's ransom for the #1 pick. The Bills had a deal with Denver to pick Allen at 5 provided B. Chubb wasn't still on the board, it died when Cleveland passed on Chubb at 4. If Cleveland was smart (they never are) they would have drafted Allen at 4 and had the Bills by the footballs. Beane would have had to trade with Cleveland at a huge disadvantage, since Allen was his guy.

I loved seeing Gregg go nuts when Allen threw the TD to Streater.

Houston will win the game outright. Week 1 upset special. The time to beat NE is September.

Thanks. I saved it using the print to PDF in Windows 10.

Any way without Pro?

Does anyone know how to save the yearbook to a PDF?

We fans weren't the only ones with little faith in Reich entering the 1989 season. He had been exposed to the rest of the league in Plan B free agency and there were no takers. Getting back to the original premise of this thread: If Allen and Peterman are to become the next Kelly/Reich duo, they need to reserve a special table for Friday lunches at the Orchard Park Café.

JP sat his entire rookie year except for mop up duty in 4 games. His 1st game, he looked horrible. Are you saying he shouldn't have played a down? The truth is, the guys who failed never would have been any good even if they sat for a decade, like Todd Collins did in KC & Washington before having some good games 10 years after his last game as a Bill. If JP had sat for 10 years, we could have unleashed a monster on the NFL. Come to think of it, it's been close to a decade since JP left the NFL-he should be ready now for anyone willing to give him one more chance. The light finally has come on for him, he has great potential now.

Rodgers was behind a HOF QB, nobody will ever know if he came in day 1 that he wouldn't have lit it up. He didn't need 3 years to learn, circumstances kept him on the bench because Favre kept jerking GB around until they finally had enough & handed the keys to Rodgers. If Favre had retired or gotten himself traded earlier, most likely Rodgers would have been ready. Who knows if Mahomes needed last year on the bench or not, or if he'll ever be any good.

Take a look at the QB league wide depth charts. The Bills QBs have fewer starts combined than any other NFL team. Every other team has either a starter who has started many games or a backup who has. Some teams are guaranteed to keep 3. Just like the Bills, the Giants have 2 QBs drafted in 2017 & 2018, neither one is getting cut. They're keeping 3 and they have the veteran starter. Most of the teams that have a rookie QB will end up keeping 3 QBs. http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB

Most teams that keep 2 have at least 1 veteran with a bunch of NFL starts. We need to sign a 3rd QB for the rest of preseason & if he is a veteran who looks good, McCarron goes on IR & if the 3rd preseason QB is just a body, either IR McCarron with designation to return later or keep him active if the injury is healing quickly & just inactivate him on gamedays early in the season. Any way you play it the Bills need 3 QBs since there is no seasoned veteran on the roster. BTW in 2000 NE had 4 QBs on the roster because their 6th rounder, a raw rookie named Tom Brady showed enough that they didn't want to lose him, so veteran Drew Bledsoe had 3 backups that year. Most would have called their coach nuts for having 4 QBs, instead they call him a genius.

Management knows Anderson from their days together in Carolina. Big advantage over Kaepernick, who they don't know.