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"In the deal, the Vikings acquired the No. 23 overall pick in the first round and the No. 232 selection (seventh round). The Texans get No. 42 overall (second round), No. 188 (sixth round), and a second-round pick in 2025, per Rapoport and Pelissero." https://www.nfl.com/news/vikings-texans-trade-first-round-pick-2024-nfl-draft

If you want to have these kinds of players, you have to deal with these kinds of egos. As Larry Bird used to say, "can't have a team full of milk drinkers."

Has it been stated that this was alcohol? Because driving while intoxicated could also be weed, and that makes a lot more sense for an afternoon arrest. Judging from the aroma coming from cars at stoplights in Cincinnati, a significant portion of the population drives around smoking weed all day every day.

It worked out well for all parties, except for the only one that I actually care about. It never should have come to this.

I'm sure that it went something like this Diggs contacts Beane in February after the Pro Bowl to demand a trade Beane tells him to pound sand, due to dead cap Diggs says that he won't show up until training camp and that he won't be a happy camper Beane tells Diggs and his agent to seek a trade (teams do this all the time), but not to KC Diggs' agent only contacts Houston, because that's the point of all of this Beane doesn't like the picks being offered to him, so the Texans go and make that head-scratcher of a deal with Minnesota to get that 2025 second. This was on March 15th, two days before Diggs contract became fully guaranteed. That's why Diggs was tweeting the whole "I'm waiting" schtick on the 17th. He knew that the trade was in place and wanted Beane to pull the trigger Beane didn't do it then because he wanted a second this year. He calls around, but other teams are not interested in a disgruntled WR. So two weeks later, he gives in. That's why he looked "defeated" in that press conference. That's why he felt the need to remind everyone that he's "competitive." He let a situation get out of hand and he lost. I had a whole lot more here, but I don't want to start the flame war by criticizing Josh Allen on TBD. But both Josh and Beane look weak right now, and it's only going to get worse as Diggs starts tweeting again. The QB has to be the biggest ego on the team, and I'm not sure that we have that.

For an example a little closer to home for us, think about the Hasek trade saga. He (and his agent) made it clear that he wouldn't show up anywhere else but Detroit. I'm sure Diggs' agent was doing exactly that behind the scenes.

The more that I think about this, the more that I'm sure that we all got played. This clearly was an NBA-style player-originated move hatched at the Pro Bowl. Mixon, Stroud, and Diggs all worked behind the scenes to make this happen. I'm not sure how Diggs forced Beane to trade him where he wanted to go, but I'm sure he threatened to not show up unless it was Dallas or Houston. That's what NBA players do.

I swear to god that this guy has posted in this thread 'Drinking_And_Driving_Can_Mix'.pdf

It should be Diggs and picks traded for picks

Speaking of former Steeler almost-star WRs, Chase Claypool is still a FA. How about him? /s

(I actually agree with you here, but I got arrested by the Homer Police yesterday so I'm still a bit salty)

That's also what makes Kelce so great. He usually doesn't run a set route. He is reading the zone as the play progresses to find that soft spot. Mahomes and Kelce happen to see the game in the same way, just like Edelman (another ex-QB turned pass catcher) and Brady did.

It's not worth discussing from a moral or ethical standpoint, but it may complicate things for Rice from a legal standpoint because it happened in Texas. Betcha he wishes that he had been drafted by the Cowboys right about now. Joe Mixon got away with SO MUCH because the past two Hamilton County prosecutors are season ticket holders.

That's nothing. If I was Ward I would have held out for more. Some oil-drunk idiot in Dubai paid 15 million for a license plate. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-expensive-license-plate-in-the-world-sold-at-auction-for-15-million-dubai/

With a couple of quick Google searches, it seems that those guys knew the law very well. The possession charge is a class B misdemeanor as is leaving the scene of an accident. Both of those carry small fines and up to 180 days in the county jail. In Rice's favor, I did see that Dallas County has not been prosecuting low-level weed possession cases in recent years. A DUI accident with injuries, OTOH, is a third-degree felony that comes with 2-10 years in prison. The reckless driving is also a class B misdemeanor unless the other party is injured or they can prove that there was racing involved. All told, leaving the scene was a heartless but probably wise move in this case. He's still in a lot of trouble because there where injuries and it's pretty clear that they were racing. All that said, IANAL but I am an academic librarian so I'm pretty good at looking stuff up.

We have all five stages of grief on display here. There is no consensus. We have one fan so upset with the trade that he hopes that the Texans win the Super Bowl next year just to stick it to Brandon Beane. We have other fans who are in "I told ya so" mode as a carryover from the Cryptic Tweet thread. We had one dude on here on Wednesday that essentially argued that Diggs was right, Josh is the actual bad teammate, and that we traded the wrong guy. So, you know, a typical week on TBD.

He was on pace for over a thousand yards before he got drunk at Top Golf.

I agree with all of this, but we have no idea how good or bad Ruggs would have been.

A huge jump in production from Shakir is not unreasonable. He had excellent metrics in 2022. All he needs is an increase in targets. When you look at the 2023 receiving stats, he really jumps off the page as a guy that deserves more targets. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/receiving.htm

It was also a different era when DBs weren’t world-class athletes.

Bengals will still take him. Mike Brown doesn't care.

I'm sure that Beane, Brady, and McDermott are also looking at Shakir's stats beyond the total yards which is more a matter of targets. Shakir led all NFL WRs in 2023 in Catch% Success% Yards per target Shakir caught the ball when it was thrown to him and made big plays. The major thing holding him back was a limited number of targets (45). That should probably change.

You can't even do it once. Here is a quote from page 51 of the NFL rulebook: It's a 15-yard penalty and they reset the clock. Read it for yourselves: https://operations.nfl.com/media/tvglh0mx/2023-rulebook_final.pdf

I agree with what you say here, but I think that it's important to note that the Bills are not paying Diggs 31 million to not play for them. They are taking a 31 million dead cap hit. That 31 million is money that has been already paid to Stef that we now have to add to the cap due to the trade. Saying that the salary cap is accounting is not saying that it doesn't exist. It's saying that the real money distributed to players in any given year is vastly different from the cap allocations. Also, for the record, I was absolutely certain that Diggs would play 2024 in Buffalo because that cap hit would be too much. I was wrong. @Warriorspikes51 was right. I am owning this because I believe that part of being a functioning adult is the capacity to admit when you were wrong about something.

If I wear Bills stuff here in Cincinnati, I always get at least one “go Bills!” Especially at Trader Joe’s for some reason.