Low Positive

The Packers only managed 13 points against a team that we scored 40 on. At home! We would be just as upset about that as we are today. But I'm splitting hairs and by no means want to argue that yesterday wasn't bad. I think McDermott should have been fired this morning for not preparing his team, but that was never going to happen.

The Packers lost at home to the Panthers the week after we rolled them. The Falcons got rolled by these same Dolphins, but at home. The Bengals gave up 38 points to the Jets in a home loss and Joe Burrow being out had nothing to do with it. The Rams lost to Mac Jones and the 49ers at home. The Jags just choked a 29-10 lead going into the 4th quarter by giving up 26 points to the Texans. That was this week. The Lions lost at home to the Vikings and JJ McCarthy. I know we live in a Bills bubble, but this has really evolved into an "any given Sunday" league where no team is safe. That being said, this Sunday sucked really bad and was the third-worst regular-season loss of the McDermott/Allen era.

But you could do this with every team that is not actively winning Super Bowls. I imagine that no loss hurts all that much if you're a Chiefs or Pats fan, but I wouldn't know.

I actually think the AFC Championship Game in January 2021 in KC was the worst loss. We were a hot, young team riding a wave and came out like we expected to lose. The second was the AFC CG last year. In both cases, we were a win from the Super Bowl. All other losses, including 13 seconds, pale in comparison.

I would normally agree with you. But Yesterday was really bad. I have been watching the All-22. Usually, when I do that, I see an opposing defense that made some good plays. That's what I saw when I looked at the Pats and Falcons games. So I wasn't so down. But what I see here is: A Bills team that wouldn't stop running into packed boxes A bunch of WRs who either can't get open or take too long to get open An OC who isn't scheming the WRs open. He also telegraphs with personnel grouping when the team is running or passing. A QB who refuses to throw into NFL tight windows. Too many times he took the checkdown from clean pockets before waiting for the play to develop downfield. The offense was a cluster from the start of the game. It looked like they didn't prrepare at all. And when they finally got rolling, they turned the ball over in brutal fashion. I can't take anything positive from it. We'll have to see how they respond, but that was one ugly game.

The narratives here are interesting. Both teams are 6-3, coming off a loss. We lost to the lowly Dolphins, but the Bucs lost at home. So both will be desperate for a win. I would watch with great interest if I were a neutral fan.

I'm actually usually very positive. A couple of posters on here have me blocked because I called out their excessive negativity. Yesterday broke me a bit. It was not only our loss. Division losses happen. It was the way we lost, coupled with the fact that the Pats seem like they are on a Super Bowl run of good play and good luck. It's enough to grind me into the dirt. And just to make myself clear, I was only responding to Corta's use of a Valley Girl phrase. He's right that I'm overreacting. But this is "Overaction Monday," after all.

McDermott gets hired by a rebuilding team as HC in about 10 minutes. Daboll will have his pick of OC jobs, as will Mike McDaniel. Both will get another shot at HC in a few years, after they rehab their reputations. They don't call it a coaching carousel for nothing.

To the max? As if! Things are just like grody right now in B-lo and totally bitchin' in Bean Town. Gag me with a spoon!

Who cares? The Pats have 60 million in cap space before they release or restructure anyone. We're screwed.

We're actually only a game and a half out because the Pats haven't had their bye yet. Also, the Bengals play in Pittsburgh this Sunday. That's a HUGE game for them.

He won't take risks with the football in most games. He's taking sacks instead of attempting throws that might lead to INTs. Guys are getting NFL open, but he's waiting for them to be college open. They've turned Brett Favre into a game manager in an attempt to fashion a Tom Brady. LET JOSH BE JOSH!

Here's the All-22 of the play. I think it was supposed to be a pass to Cook out of the backfield, but Miami covered it. From there, the play was broken

One of Beane's main flaws as a GM is being overly concerned with "value." It causes mistakes in both the draft and FA. Hollins was not good "value" at the contract the Pats paid him. Joshula Palmer is a good "value" FA signing. Trading a 2026 1st for Waddle was bad "value." Drafting LBs in the first, even if they are far and away the BPA, is bad "value." I personally don't care about value. I want good players. The whole regime is also overly concerned with traits and culture, but that is another discussion.

None today. Bills fans are witnessing the formation of a new Pats dynasty and behaving accordingly.

You got older. None of the stars seem as big when you're an adult, especially when you are older than they are. It's why, for me, Tom Brady could never eclipse Joe Montana. Tom Brady was a great QB. Joe Montana was a folk hero of my childhood. I'm sure people older than me feel that way about a Rodger Staubach or a Terry Bradshaw.

The Pats being good is why this board, and the entirety of Bills Mafia, is in a full-on panic right now. It feels like a return to a 20-year nightmare.

I think that is true for every NFL coach under 70. The only time I saw one quit, not due to health or old age, was Marrone, but he thought he had the Jets job in the bag. I mean, even Pete Carroll came back. They can't stop, won't stop.

Daboll was OC for this game:

Klint Kubiak, OC in Seattle, is my first choice. He's got an offense with Darnold, JSN, a RB, and a bunch of JAGs scoring at will.

I agree with this. But it must be said that Josh would have thrown that pass 3 years ago. He won't take those risks anymore because he is so afraid of throwing picks. I think McDermott and Brady have gotten into his head that INTs are worst the worst possible outcome, and the potential for a long TD doesn't change that. He only "takes what the defense gives him." They coached the gunslinger out of him. That's all fine, but it doesn't work when the Bills get behind by two TDs.

If you want Chiefs castoffs, how about Kadarius Toney (sp?)?

We're all going to have to come to grips with the fact that we have no control over Terry Pegula's decision-making. He might even have different priorities than the fans. But he fired GMs and coaches in his early days of owning the Sabres, like it was going out of style, only to get worse results. I think he might have learned the wrong lessons from that. But again, we as fans have no way to affect his decision-making. FWIW, I would clean house if I owned the team. But I would have done it after the playoff loss to the Bengals. That was when it was crystal clear that this group would not win it all. It was time to get a new vision. But Terry sees it all differently, and our favorite is his plaything. Perhaps we need to be more like English footy fans and consider the team our's, but as Americans, we don't tend to think that way. Terry bought the team with his own money, so he gets to run it into the ground if he so pleases, and there is nothing that we can do about it. We also need an OC that runs a different offense with new verbage. Josh needs the challenge of learning a new playbook. He looks frustrated and a bit bored, but I'm probably reading too much into it. I was raging yesterday, I slept on it, and came to the conclusion that it was a week 10 loss to a divisional opponent. These things happen. The game got away from the Bills early and they could never get on track. The Steelers lost in Cincinnati a few weeks ago and then beat the Colts. After beating the Steelers, the Bengals lost to the Jets and Bears. The Packers lost to the Panthers last week, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them beat the Eagles tonight. The damn Eagles lost to the hapless Giants a few weeks ago. Any team can beat any team this year. Except nobody can beat the Pats. That last point is what I think is driving our panic. It's just too much drought-era PTSD (not to make light of people who fought in wars or suffered real trauma, but there is no other term that comes to mind to describe our reaction).

I mean, we're looking at street free agents after week 10. You're not getting Ja'Marr Chase. You're not even getting MVS, although he could be signed from the Steelers' practice squad.

I'd rather take a swing at Dionte Johnson, who's currently sitting on his couch waiting for a call. He might be crazy, but he could always get open on Pittsburgh.