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I think Hodgins has a chance to carve out a role as a third down or red zone specialist, despite his limitations. Jump balls, back shoulder and sideline throws are all something he can win due to his length and hands, even if there's good DB coverage. It will be a big leap for him to deal with the speed of the NFL, but he seems like a smart kid with a high football IQ. I give him a much better chance than Foster, Duke Williams, Ray Ray, et al...

IMO, he's got at least two more years there, simply based on the immovability of his contract...

If NYS is still shut down in July, I don't see why the Bills couldn't hold training camp in another state that's open. It would just be a maxed out version of St. John Fisher--that is, moving the whole operation a few hundred (or even thousand) miles father away from OBD. Anybody know if this would violate NFL rules? Also, an October start would have to be a competitive disadvantage for the Bills, with the second half of the season over-weighted with road games. Not sure that's going to fly with Northern teams with open air stadiums...

Of all the games I watched Moss play, the "Holy War" against BYU last August gives a great idea of what he can bring to the Bills. He was dynamic (29 carries, 187 yards, 1 TD) but also showed a few of his limitations (i.e., don't run him lateral to the LOS, he runs a bit upright, which causes him to absorb a lot of punishment). It's a complete game tape, but worth the time to watch...

IMO, until jobless claim numbers start to stabilize:

Well, at least you didn't say it was sarcasm...

"Look it up, Thurman..."

While a RB is a lot more than the sum of their measureables, guess who the mystery player (former Bill) is versus Moss... Mystery Player Zach Moss 40 Yard Dash: 4.47 seconds 4.52 20 Yard Split: 2.59 seconds 2.63 10 Yard Split: 1.61 seconds 1.60 Bench Press: 13 reps (225 lb) 19 reps Vertical Leap: 33.0 inches 33.0 Broad Jump: 114.0 inches N/A 20 Yd Shuttle: 4.21 seconds 4.37 Height: 69.9 inches 70.0 Weight: 198 pounds 222 Hand Size: 8.75 inches 9.25 BMI: 29.18 32.62

The cliff notes version...

At the rate he's going, Zay's average yards per catch will turn negative in 3 more years... CAREER STATSMORE Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost 2019 Oakland Raiders 10 7 20 147 7.4 16 0 1 3 3.0 3 0 -- -- 2019 Buffalo Bills 5 2 7 69 9.9 23 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2018 Buffalo Bills 16 15 56 652 11.6 57 7 1 0 0.0 0 0 1 0 2017 Buffalo Bills 15 10 27 316 11.7 33 2 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- TOTAL 110 1,184 10.8 57 9 2 3 1.5 3 0 1 0

Well, if you want real comedy--here you go...

Hey, I've seen that guy before....

He's a limited athlete but seems to overcome it (at the college level) with football IQ. We've seen guys do that in the NFL and have nice careers as backups and specialists. I've been rooting for him for a few weeks now and look forward to seeing him carve out a role at training camp. Here's his writeup from Dane Brugler (The Athletic): STRENGTHS: Tall, lean-muscled frame…presses the route before his break, not allowing the defender to dictate his path…mixes speed cuts and stride manipulation in his linear patterns…shows the hand strength and concentration to ***** $nach [I cant believe that's a banned word ] without slowing at the catch point…only one drop in 2019…adjusts to the ball in flight, using his long arms to highpoint or reel-in throws away from his body…shields defenders with his frame…target volume and production increased each season, finishing his career ranked seventh in school history in catches and receiving yards. WEAKNESSES: Not a burner and doesn’t have ideal speed…lacks an explosive top gear and wasn’t a big-play creator in college (of his 86 catches in 2019, only four resulted in a reception of 30-plus yards)…doesn’t fire out of his stance and requires an extended move to shake press coverage…caught up hand fighting vs. the jam, leading to wasted motion at the line…below-average functional strength for the position…needs to develop his blocking to better sustain…missed two games as a sophomore due to a hamstring injury (October 2018); left game due to a right knee injury as a junior (November 2019). SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Oregon State, Hodgins was an outside receiver in head coach Jonathan Smith’s offense. He quickly emerged as the Beavers’ top weapon and finished his career with 20 receiving scores, which ranks second in program history behind only Brandin Cooks (24). He didn’t run the most diverse route tree in college (mostly slants, posts and comebacks), but his footwork is crisp and his catch point skills come natural to him. His speed is more build-up than sudden and his struggles to separate will be tougher to overcome at the next level. Overall, Hodges doesn’t have the explosive acceleration to blow by NFL coverage, but his sticky hands and expanded catch radius are NFL-ready traits, projecting as a reliable possession option. GRADE: 4th-5th Round

Well, I'm back from having my head stuck in a bucket of ice. And very happy to see that Hodgins is the pick here. He's got insane body control as a third down and red zone target. He doesn't get much seperation, even at the college level, but he can still be effective if Josh learns to throw him open (i.e., sideline throws, back of the end zone jump balls, etc). He's got tremendous hands and seems to have good football IQ in terms of overcoming his athletic limitations. IMO, he'll make a good WR5, but he'll have to play special teams, which I'm not sure he's done before. Enjoy some of these sideline catches--that's where he's going to make his living:

Practice squad him. Who'd be desperate enough to sign him to the active 55?...

Diggs is going to love Fromm. Better keep them on whole seperate practice fields...

Can I edit my Extend Beane thread now?...

Does he know how to feed tigers as well??...

The TV guys will all say what a brilliant move...

Boom. There goes Hall. Now we got to cheer for him to fail big time...

Sounds like a perfect Raider prospect...

Just like not tipping picks, it would be great if folks wouldn't interact with other team's interlopers...

Yeah. Beane seems strangely passive so far. Maybe no one want to trade with us...

Starting to really suck now. Too much fluff...