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  1. The final stake in Foster's heart (and likely Duke's as well). Sort of a one trick deep threat, but also a good blocker so I'll be watching how he fits in the running game. I wanted Gandy-Golden, which likely is now a no-go. But we shall see...
  2. #13/Gabriel Davis/WR/Central Florida/6’2”, 212 Lbs The Good -Deep threat that creates ample separation late in routes to ultimately win -Willing blocker with good form and strength in his punch and drive -Thick, powerful lower half that allows him to run through arm tackles -Flashes huge catch radius when asked to catch away from his body -Possesses ideal body control to adjust to the football mid-route -Varies releases off the line of scrimmage and rarely struggles with press coverage The Bad -Body catcher with hands that are suspect and super inconsistent; at least seven dropped touchdowns over three years of film studied -Limited, simple route tree consisting of slants, 9’s, and stop routes -Not a burner by any means despite filling role of deep threat -Struggles to play through contact at catch point and will rarely win 50/50 balls -Despite lower half strength, not a big RAC guy and won’t create with elusiveness -Athleticism is a concern for the position Bio -Played and started in all 37 games during 3-year career with Central Florida -Finished 3-year career with 152 catches, 2,447 yards and 23 touchdowns, averaging 16.1 yards per catch -Posted line of 72 catches, 1,241 yards and 12 touchdowns in 2019 -Played on special teams during freshman year, recording 5 career tackles on kick and punt coverage -Invited to 2020 NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis Tape Breakdown Central Florida wide receiver Gabriel Davis is a name well known within draft circles, but there was always a mystery about his tape and how exactly he produces. Throughout my film study of the Knights’ deep threat, I came away intrigued by his combination of size and length, but was mostly baffled by his ability to consistently win deep despite not being a burner by any stretch of the imagination. Some receivers just have a knack of finding an extra gear late in routes, and that’s what Davis has. He’s not a 4.4 guy, and isn’t a twitched-up athlete, but he finds an extra step late in his routes – whether that’s a go route or a slant route – that allows him to win and win big. Again, you see the lack of explosion and athleticism in his hips and he labors to stop and spin. Here though, he doesn’t flash his hands at all; he goes for the body catch and it results in an ugly drop near the first-down marker. Final thoughts on Davis – he’s a good deep threat that separates late, and he has some impressive college numbers, but I just don’t buy right now that he’ll win consistently in the NFL with the ways in which he won in college. He’ll need to work on hand catching in the NFL, and needs to develop an actual route tree. If he can also add some more strength to win contested balls, he could develop into a solid X receiver and play a No. 2-3 role in a good offense. He’s a project out of the gates, but can contribute on special teams while a team tries to groom him. Projection: Mid Day 3
  3. What I’ve heard/read: PFF Draft Guide - Mike Renner Gabriel Davis WR UCF - Draft Player Profile | The Draft Network - Joe Marino Gabriel Davis WR UCF - Draft Player Profile | The Draft Network - Benjamin Solak NFL Draft & Combine Profile - Gabriel Davis | NFL.com On a normal year a player like Gabriel Davis could push for the second day of the draft. That seems unlikely with so much talent in this class, and a smart team with a plan on how to maximize his skillset and develop him could really benefit.
  4. So I guess they didn't like Gandy-Golden as much as I thought.
  5. A lot higher than everywhere I've seen him going...
  6. That's as a press man-to-man CB. He'd be very good in zone coverage...
  7. Time to trade up with that 6th. Lock in who you want rather than sweat it out...
  8. Selling out, going for it now. They'll either win a Lombardi or burn up in the atmosphere...
  9. To me, both guys are good solid (yes that can be taken as unexciting) picks. They probably don't have the upside that more "exciting" guys have, but they also have high floors. They will give us good production during their first contracts, with the potential to grow into highly desireable second contract guys. That may seem a little pedestrian, but picking at #54 and #86, it would take some real lightning strikes to get the next J.J. Watt (Epenesa) or Nick Chubb (Moss)...
  10. Ah, brings back great memories of how Andre Reed used to train. Good for Motor...
  11. I'd add "scheme fit" and value to need. It's not just checking off a box on a menu, but projecting that player into what you do as an offense or defense. Taking a guy who can set an edge (like Epenesa), which is critical in McD's defense vs. going with a higher rated but undersized speed rusher who can't defend the run. Or picking a RB like Moss for his complimentary skill set to Singletary, rather than another RB who again, might be higher rated. To me, that's a lot better approach than simply picing BPA and I'm glad Beane operates the way he does...
  12. That was a good film review and the absolute best way to look at a prospect--full game tape rather than highlight cut ups. The one thing to keep in mind--the 2019 games reviewed here were early in the season--when Epenesa, in his own words, was struggling to learn how to handle all the double teaming he was getting. He was much better later in the season. The one thing that was worrisome to me was his ball recognition, where I disagree with you a bit. There were a bunch of times where he seemed to lose sight of the play and it went right past him, or he could have made a better break on the runner. He'll have to clean that up, as well as learn some more pass rush moves beyond just the bull rush...
  13. If that's the case, there's as much "wrong" as right with many of the scouts he talks to. I can't believe those scouts would continue to be employed year after year if they were consistently wrong about guys. I know the draft is a crap shoot, but for every positive evaluation McGinn gets, he seems to find negative quotes to balance it out--leading to a muddled picture (which is what I think a lot of scouts like to do when planting opinions in the press for everyone to read)...
  14. The quotes McGinn gets from scouts are intereresing but full of "smoke" in many cases, IMO ("He's a guard!"). I've read his scout "feedback" year after year when he worked in Milwaukee and you have to parse what's genuine from what's FUD being planted to camoflage players. Here's what scouts "told" him about Christian McCaffrey in 2017: “Everyone’s anointing him as the next great white (hope),” said a third scout. “I’m a little skeptical. He didn’t dominate as much as he did sophomore year. Why is that? What’s the value of a third-down back and return specialist?” Or Zay Jones: “Top three ball skills in this draft,” said one scout. “He’s physical. He is a good route runner. Great kid."
  15. Bryce Hall (CB), John Simpson (OG) or Antonio Gandy-Golden (WR)...
  16. Yeah, they need to throw grandma and cousin Lizzy out on the sidewalk. Let them look through the picture window. Geesh...
  17. We will be an "impose our will" offense, not a Madden 2020 offense. I'm happy with that...
  18. The Athletic live tracker: 86. Buffalo Bills: Zack Moss, RB, Utah The Bills found value at the running back position in the third round last year with Devin Singletary and they do it again here with Moss. The contact balance is what makes the Utah product dangerous because he attacks defenders and bounces off contact, breaking tackle after tackle. The medicals are a little bit of a worry here, but his talent was top-50 worthy. From the beat writer: The Buffalo Bills had been sniffing around running backs in the draft process, including a meeting with their third-round pick, and landed a coveted option in Utah’s Zack Moss. The Bills feel quite strongly about the current starter and second-year player Devin Singletary as a featured back, though they wanted to give him a complementary back with a contrasting style. They tried it last year with Frank Gore as the downhill runner, and past mid-October, Gore’s play dipped by a great deal. In Moss, the Bills are getting that downhill style that can give them another option out of the backfield, and he can potentially fill in as a three-down back in the event of an injury to Singletary. Their offensive coordinator likes to have running backs who do different things, so this pick makes sense through the lens of all their philosophies. —Matt Fairburn
  19. Yeah, wait... http://blogs.ourlads.com/2013/01/11/draft-rewind-2005-frank-gore-san-francisco-49ers/ Draft Rewind 2005 – Frank Gore – San Francisco 49ers Posted on January 11, 2013 by Dan Shonka What Ourlads NFL Scouting Services said about FRANK GORE: Miami, 5093 217 4.66. Junior eligible. Explosive power runner with a squatty body who has been limited by an ACL surgery on each knee. Has bulky speed. Good vision. Surprising speed and burst after two operations. Strong lower body. Run with his pads over his toes and low to the ground. Can’t arm tackle him. Runs through tackles. Lacks long finish speed but finishes his runs. Bender-weaver type runner downfield. Will line up in slot at times. Better than average hands to pluck the ball. Can improve routes. Has run skills and production as a runner. Natural instincts and feel for running the ball. Vision and ability to create on poorly blocked plays. Explosive start. Moves the pile in short yardage. Efficient in short yardage situations. Good balance. Gets yards on contact with his leg strength. Late second day pick because of knee concerns and lack of speed.
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