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GB is favored at home, and should be, but I think GB and Minni aren't all that good this year. Minni seems to have lost some of the magic they had last year, and if you look at GB, they barely beat the bears, who are not good, and shoulda lost to minni, who they tied, and lost at the Skins. I was initially thinking if the bills win in GB, i'm going all in on tipping us for playoffs, but now i'm thinking it would be a great road win, but given rogers is likely hurt enough to not be playing as well as he usually does, I still think we need to show improve. at the start of the season it looked like the NFC and new england were the only teams that mattered, now it looks like there is lots of skrempf in the AFC

lol. dude, this is so true. fans get up their own crack about position X is worthless (often DBs on this board) or position Y is THE MOST IMPORTANT (like OTs were for so long after that stupid book and worse movie. i remember hearing people talk about BUILD TEH LOINS FIRST, THEN SKILL PLAYERS). the reality is lots of positions count, just some more than others. i'd rank them QB Pass rusher (generally DE, could be OLB or even DT but that's more rare) CB offensive play maker (now it's usually WR, could be RB or TE) OL (generally, LT, LG, RT, RG, C) DT LB (non pass rusher) Safety now a great LB may be more important than a good CB or ok pass rusher, but the above is a fairly general position premium breakdown. the rub on CB is -- they cost a ton and you get less of a drop off from an OK vet to a decent/very good rookie. so lots of teams draft em high and you seem them walk, much less so w pass rusher or QB. RBs are like this too, so they have dropped in value some, but we are seeing that trend reverse. thankfully the over valuation of LTs is mostly over. having a good unit of OL is much much better than having one star and a few scrubs. that can work on the DL cuz one monster frees up everyone else, but on OL they have to work more as a unit. i remember some busto Ts going high, 2nd pick after clowny, and a top 3 pick to the rams before that who ended up backing up on the jets (from baylor or something). also, 3 of the top 4 picks one year (when kc traded for Alex smiff from SF) were LTs and i think only one of them really got some burn as a starting LT. people thought LTs were just can't miss because there were a few good ones taken really early. we even got our own fat waste of space out of fat waste of space U, Texas, in mike williams

i've been tipping allen for ever now. He's Favrelway, just accept it and embrace the glory. we got some slack jaw bills fans who have metastasized during our losing years. we need to cull this herd some.

To me, Allen was playing sand lot football. Just holding the ball, running around and trying to find an open guy. I think being able to actually execute the offensive scheme will make him much more effective, and that's going to take time and some of his teammates winning matchups, which isn't likely next week vs Minni. I think Allen getting like 4 total days of team one reps prior to last week put him behind where he is supposed to be. If he was made starter right away he'd be miles ahead of where he is right now. He'll get there

Peterman NFL Scouting Report Strengths: Is scared of his own shadow when playing. Has no confidence at all. Panics like Beeker from the muppets at the slightest sight of pressure, but also holds the ball too long and gets sacked. Throws a weak, inconsistent, slow, almost sad looking ball. Throws interceptions every five or six throws. Is awful. Makes teammates much worse than they would otherwise be, even on really crap teams. Makes fans sad about things even outside of football. Has a stupid pouty face. Is literally the worst statistical QB in the modern era of the NFL. Reversing his completions and interceptions in his first start would actually improve his numbers. Threw an incomplete pass in his third start that actually improved his QB Rating. The most unnatural jankass QB alive. Is to NFL offensive success what Hitler was to European peace in the mid 20th century. Weaknesses: The above listed strengths actually overstate Peterman's value as a quarterback.

mcd seems loyal to a fault. that old rb from carolina, KB the slow wr from carolina, the GM from carolina, and Nathaniel "what, me worry" Peterman. oh, and based on some people's opinion that DT from carolina too, altho i think he's actually a space eating monster.

albany said it. if you start with the contra positive, does benching the qb ruin him, you get the same hand wavey results as the starting too soon argument gets you. the only thing that can really ruin a guy, who wasn't gonna crash and burn anyhow, is injury. so if your rookie is banged up, and you only have human garbage dump qb peterman to play, then you may have to make the tough choice just to keep the rook from getting his 3rd concussion in a month or whatever. but if the rookie is healthy, and your best option, then you put him out there. same as any other position. the only difference is qb is so important a team is likely to draft a guy who isn't ready day one w a high pick for a qb, but a top 5 or 10 pick on any other position is expected to contribute right away.

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool these peterman fans make the JP Looseman crowd look like knute rockney with their football takes! all hail the new king of the bills, Josh Allen! may he smite his enemies and feel the glory of the loving crowd. Peterman loyalists must be purged from the faithful fandom, run off until their stench is but a distant memory of the sickness of the spiritually weak.

this is all gonna come down to Josh Allen. If he is the next Favre, they will sign guys and draft guys and make the team legit in 2019 or 2020 at the latest. if he isn't, they are all gonezo and we'll end up drafting the best qb in the draft in 2019. the upside of allen is that he's either going to show he's a total stud, or flame out. he's a sick athlete, cannon arm, big body, and most of all for our team right now, has the confidence of a ten foot man. he's chomping at the bit to play, while failureman was scared and wanted out from the first snap.

i think JA never really had a shot to win the starting job. he never got the number of snaps w the 1s required to show his stuff and win the job, it was always the plan to bench him to start. this was a horrible stupid plan by the bills brain trust. now that we know NP IS WHAT WE THOUGHT HE WAS, it's time to lose with the rookie rather than with the total waste of roster space. if peterman starts while JA is healthy, it shows our coaches are just automatons who follow a retarded "process" which means they can't make decisions. i also think starting peterman next week will lead to the coaches losing the locker room. a bounce back win by the bills would be huge right now, and starting JA is the only way to make that even possible.

LJL @ midseason form!!! hahaha, i chortled loud at that. we really have a way of sucking extra hard it seems. anyhow, good post opie, i think emdunds was hot trash to start with, was making sad mistakes and getting trucked, but got aggressive and came with it better late in the game tho. if they start peterman again i won't be watching, i hope your theory is right.

allen is the future. I suspect this is gonna turn out like Houston, where peterman flames out early, maybe game one, and allen comes in and wows us. but the rookie doesn't get hurt in this movie.

i done tole errybody, JA is our starter and our champion. He played under center in college, so he's actually more NFL ready than most picks. He also has a big brain, a big body, and a big arm, on top of being a sick athlete. The guys bringing up EJ in here need to give their heads a shake. No good player at the NFL level gets ruined (unless it's from injuries). EJ was a turkey to start with, and has been a turkey ever since. He hasn't had a positive impact in the NFL since his HORRIBLE pick six to EJ Watt in Houston which lead to his benching and ended his NFL career for all intents and purposes. Get used to winning guys, you are gonna get sick of it.

loool, this is top shelf trash talk! I like his little black solidarity shtick too, where the QB who put the least noticeable performance possible (tyrod at jax) against his team as under rated. how exciting is it gonna be when JA puts the ball on a rope over his head for 6?

Brah, your first line basically said it all. Make him be a quarterback, which the jets also said when they destroyed us on thursday night last year, stuck in my craw something fierce. looking back, the two seasons w rex where the o looked good, tyrod has some really good talent (oline was sick, sammy, woods, clay, percy harvin for a cup of coffee, shady gileesi and karlos at RB, that's a lot of talent) and it was a plodding run first gadget roman O, so he really wasn't asked to be a qb as much. he hasn't "developed" because he doesn't have the ability at qb to develop, he's a great teammate and high level game manager, but he's just simply too limited. he's a poor man's alex smith.

i was at the flexed to sunday night almost perfect NE season drubbing that has been mentioned here. the team simply didn't want to be there, and it showed. it was also cold, and i flew up from NYC to attend. the next season, i was at the toronto game (where i had just moved back to, so i had flow like 2 days prior) which was a thursday night game. we were playing the power house rex jets, with jenkins in the NT. the bills ran a gutsy tough game, went toe to toe, and were in a position to walk away winners. then JP rolled left, had a one read play, and somehow was sacked for a fumble. i was in a box at the skydome, and the booth went silent and the tv was on, and i remember fouts saying "and then JP losman turned into JP losman, and gave the ball, and the game, away". that guy was just a huge loser. so in like 12 months i was able to watch "home games" for the bills where we were gutless and just destroyed, and where we outplayed a much better team and still gave the game away due to our garbage qb not being able to resist the siren song of a horrible play.

We're really gonna take the PFF chart over his prior coach's opinion? we drafted a hyper active DT, kept our aging one for one more season, signed an all around DE, and traded up to draft a stud ultra athlete (freak really) 20 year old LB. the guts of our D have totally been revamped. if Star does his job as mccoach expects him to, it was a good signing. imo he's a beast and has been one since college. i could give a fuzz what some pff chart says.

i know, i wish we drafted somebody! C'MON!

10+ wins, better to end the year, a bit of a rough start. allen starts sooner than later (possibly week one), D is a monster, strong run game, passing is limited by WR talent. we go to the playoffs and do damage like jacksonville did last year, then we buy a bunch of talent in the next offseason and then the bills roam around the nfl like the roman legion smashing fools and staring stone faced into a future of glory.

what's that? facts. he really did get low value for marcel, but in the end it could work out. darby and watkins were great values. while darby is a solid player, our secondary was really solid last year, so we net net are fine. Sammy has redunk talent, but he just didn't fit in/get along/stay healthy to the point where we were gonna keep him, and neither did the team who traded for him. based on the above, i agree w you vs the fans who said he gave away talent at a fire sale, i'd say overall he got solid/fair value. the one thin i will agree with from the fans in this thread w a more hedged opinion on beane -- it really comes down to his draft this year, and that's almost all on Josh Allen. I suppose it is possible for peterman to ball out, and every other pick made this year to be solid and Allen busts and we are still a good team who had a good draft, but if Allen can get to a pro bowl level (and he probably has to get there in a bit of a hurry, and without totally stinking for too long) that's the silver bullet we (every team?) needs. what i love about this front office is they have an identity and they are pushing their own mandate at full speed. whaley was a bit of a mish mash of a hedger and a risk taker, he'd flip one player off and hit a home run (like w #55) and get a very solid value with tyrod, but then he'd also over pay percy and clay and so so on, and left some holes in the roster (obv shady was a grand slam). it felt like he was trying to maximize the pay off of each move in isolation, without thinking about how it was going to form a better overall team. this current front office is very very clear in what they want and are putting thoughts to action, which means it either succeeds, or it fails and there is no kinda sorta decision point where maybe you keep the gm, fire the coach, or vice versa, or whatever. the are standing up to be counted and it will be clear if they are getting it done, or not.

LOL Indeed, and he could conceal a dagger and bring it into chariot events!

im a big fan of baker may, but i think this speaks to how under rated Josh "future bills HOF mutlti chip winning qb" Allen's readiness to play was. he played in a hard throw run based pro style O, and under center. the only other qb who compared was Josh Rosen, who i'm sure is doing well in camp, but who I think is physically weak (and i'm starting to buy the attitude/mentality issues, but frankly it may be sour grapes cuz i would have been fine w him if allen was gone and we took him at 12) and won't be able to make the spectacular throws and more importantly will simply be hurt in the nfl.

meh, always happy to see the pats suffer, and happy that it could help the bills, but pro athletes in the nfl more or less all are on something. they should be, who wouldn't take something that would help you be better at your job which defines your entire life and can make you rich, but only lasts for a short while? i read a comment in this thread about how in sports drugs are bad (mkayyyy) because it means more talented people either have to take them, or lose to less talented people who use them. how is that a problem? why not view them as an equalizer that allows hungrier harder working guys who were born with less talent to excel against naturally born players?

personal politics aside this was a smart/consistent to his type move by trump. the old culture war issues the republicans failed with have been replaced with new ones they should be winning with (they aren't called the stupid party for nothing), and trump is winning with. his off the cuff and obtuse nature is a feature, not a bug. the media in nearly its entirety is left leaning politically and socially, and 1990s republican right/globalist leaning economically, both of which are clear opposites to trump's mandate. since he ran against both the establishment of the GOP and the Dems (and both of their arms of the media, obviously the Dem's is much larger and more prestigious) he basically relies on his over the top statements and twitter to control the narrative. rescinding the offer to the eagles, who clearly had planned on embarrassing him, and turning it around helps drive the wedge on the culture war issue of outward displays of patriotism and support for military/police.

chin ups/pull ups (and i've never got the distinction, cuz you can do all kinds of grips) are tough, and require some semblance of strength/weight, but they are also really sensitive to being in practice of doing them. if i focus on chin ups, i can do many more per set, and many more over all than if i don't do them regularly. also, if i've done some other work ahead of them, 10 for an easy set looks more like 6 or 7 for a hard set. all that said, a grown able bodied man not being able to do a single chin up in any form should be ashamed of himself and not be comfortable just letting his body be a worthless sack of mush. mandatory physical training and bringing back the draft would fix half of america's problems.