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And the 4th was really Stevie Johnson.

I don't understand the "giant price" thing-- even though most everyone says it. When you set aside all the discussion of how many draft picks we gave up, at the end of the day we gave up Stevie Johnson and next year's first round pick for Sammy. Now I guess we are all sure that whoever the Bills would have taken with say the 15th pick next year would be the greatest player ever, the fact is it is just one player and he may or may not turn out to be a bust. So we could have Stevie, perhaps Ebron and Mr. Unknown from next year or Sammy. It seems that is just about the right price for Sammy, and not really exhorbitant. Especially when you have him now.

Well the Jets lost to Detroit and Chicago, who the Bills of course beat.

I think that says it all-- the Bills are the functional equivalent of a 1-6 team according to oddsmakers.

Beautiful!!!

Fred said this morning that doctors told him it is typically a 4 week injury. No surgery, just rehab. 1 centimeter pull of muscle off the bone. Fortunate it was not worse. Will do everything to get back sooner. He should miss two games for sure, if he heals fast he might be back for the Miami game on Thursday 11/13. If a full 4 weeks, the Jets game on 11/23 will be 5 weeks from date of injury. So it looks like 3 games he'll miss, with an outside chance of only 2.

No. People in DC want Cousins benched because he throws so many picks. Want him benched in favor of Colt McCoy! Dying for RG III to return.

The defense gave up 37 effing points, and all the talk is about offensive shortcomings. Seriously? The Pats scored on literally every drive in the second half. How many games do you expect to win giving up 24 second half points?

Seinfeld never gets old! LOL

He could have given more...

That's good. Information is good, and I like the job he is doing.

This guy writing for the Syracuse Post-Standard is a bit of fresh air in the coverage of the Bills. He actually talks to people and gets sourced quotes. Not all this "unnamed but special people around the league--trust me I know these kind of people-- are laughing at the Bills stupidity" crap that is the general style of the BN. He appears to actually get off his ass and talk to people -- like John Wawrow-- and not just take a couple of quotes from press conference and make up a story around some plucked out quotes. I mean it's not Pulitzer stuff, but it's informative, which is a lot better than I usually read with respect to the Bills... CD

Listening to Marrone's PC, the injuries do not sound significant, at least as a long term problem. There clearly is a chance both KW and NB will play this week, so the MRIs must have come back relatively clean. So it seems like the Bills have dodged a bullet on these injuries.

They are still starting...

Unnamed source from the Bills quoted in a blog yesterday in the BN said that neither injury was thought to be serious but they were checking them out. For what it is worth...

Right. People develop at different speeds, it is not one size fits all. People forget that Favre was drafted by Atlanta and traded away-- he had many of the same problems back in the day. In the world we live in, everything has to happen instantly. Unfortunately people don't work like the internet, and it's a shame because too many people have to make snap judgments.

You'd make a fine assassin...

No reason to be. It's just if you get a couple of years to get down the mental side of the game, it helps when you get in on the physical side of the game. Learning both on the fly exacerbates all your deficiencies.

Right or wrong, the thinking plainly is as follows: the Bills have enough talent in a weak AFC East to contend if they just get average QB play, ala Dilfer or Johnson (Johnston?) winning Super Bowls. Manuel has been well below average. Orton has shown he can be an average QB and fill the needed role. That is the working thesis, we will see if it is true. It says nothing about what we will do long term for a QB. But in the here and now, that is the plan.

OK. Different point. The Bills tried to do what you suggest with Kolb, but it did not work out. Every reason to question the front office handling of QB situation, but we are now where we are and we have to play the hand that was dealt. Pegula has to deal with your issue.

You are just wrong on the Watt play. If EJ through it any higher-- with more loft-- the pass would have been incomplete and we all would be saying FJ had a sure TD/1st down and Manuel just missed him. On that one, Watt was just being Watt, perhaps the only DL in the league who could do that. Now there were lots of other plays that EJ misfired badly, so no pass on that from me.

Exactly. He's not ready yet, but that does not mean he never will be, despite the sureness on this of many folks on the board and JS. How many years did Aaron Rogers sit behind Favre?

I feel very bad for you.

The world is a hard place. Competition can be brutal. You aim for excellence and you have lots of people trying to beat you out. I'd like to be an NFL QB too, or a MLB player, but God did not give me the talent. Either EJ has the talent or he does not. If he does not, then he falls into the same category as 99.999% of the rest of us. If he does, and he has the will, this will only make him stronger. Only time will tell. It's up to him.

Absolutely. Rogers sat behind Favre for 2-3 years for example-- it helps to watch and learn. Giving the kid time to regroup is not the end. No guarantee he will get better, but if he takes it the right way, it might prove to be a blessing.