Casey D

And here's the thing, that view is supported by the simple logic that the Pats-- or anyone-- don't get caught every time they cheat, or they'd stop cheating. Like in baseball, if you are not successful stealing 75-80% of the time, you should stop stealing because it hurts you more than helps. So one must assume in the aggregate that cheating pays off overall for the Patriots, and when they get caught it is simply the cost of doing business-- or in this case cheating. It defies reason that they are only cheating when they get caught. It must be just the tip of the iceberg.

Right, but his acclaim and success were a total fraud. But for the cheating no one likely would have ever known who LA was. Did a washed up Cleveland coach and 6th round pick do what was needed to become famous. Would we have ever heard of them otherwise? Just asking?

True. But the consistent performances over the years defying all odds are eerily similar between LA and the Pats. I am not saying Pats dope, but when you do things that seem impossible to do over 15 years and then you see all this cheating, is there not even something more fundamental going on here?

It is starting to look like it. When something is too good to be true it probably is. What else do they do?

Yes, it is like a corked bat in baseball.

No, apparently not. Each team provides its own balls for offense that they maintain control over. I did not know that until this morning.

Fire Chan is Cutler's mom. So take everything from that perspective and it makes sense. That is absolutely untrue and cannot be proven according to Fire Chan.

Exactly. Like Cutler is an a-hole.

Take care.

Wow, you are amazing-- it's like proving to you water is wet. Are you Cutler's mom?

OK... that's the problem now days, everyone feels entitled to their own facts. Hard to have a meaningful discussion. But if Cutler had Flacco's drive, determination leadership skills and personality, then I would agree you might be on to something.

Why do you want to like a guy who is widely despised? I mean why do you rationalize this?

Thanks!

I don't know how to link. But if you google Jay Cutler attitude or Jay Cutler arrogance you'll find everything you need. Sorry about my technological limitations.

No one said that about Orton-- no one. And what do you care if other people get excited, not your concern.

OK I understand. We agree that a good QB is very important. You are suggesting creative/expensive ways to find one, because they are so hard to find. That's cool.

Seriously? Just google him. He is largely detested by fans and teammates alike.

No, he is not. Flacco is a stand-up stud of a QB with good but not great skill, Cutler is a dysfunctional prima donna with good but not great skill. Sorry. Flacco won a SB at 27-- Cutler is pushing 32 and has done nothing.

Please don't say things like "accepting mediocrity." Nobody "accepts that" and it makes you come off like you are more discerning than everyone else. You have an idea, it is interesting. It is not likely-- IMO-- to lead anywhere except an awful team with all the wasted picks you propose. But it is different.

I don't know. The Dolphins defense has been quite good, and the team is stuck at 8-8. Tannehill is the picture of average.

I think that is an oversimplification. Over the last 15 years the team has lacked talent generally, in signigicant part because of a lot of bad drafts. The team has been bad on both sides of the ball. Only quite recently has the talent level increased, mostly on defense. With some tweaks to the OL, this is likely a playoff team with poor/average QB play. I agree to go the final step and be a big threat in the playoffs, they need to have a good, if not great QB-- someone like a Flacco or Rivers. Yuck... that's the problem. You reach for an expensive mediocrity and you get nowhere fast.

Likely true, but it probably is easier to build a team with a great defense and an average QB than finding a franchise QB.

No question, but every wasted pick on a failed QB has the opportunity cost of not getting a good player that, as you say, are easier to find. If you do that consistently, like the Redskins, you still don't have a QB and the rest of your team sucks too.

No, and the additional problem is Washington totally crapped out taking RG III and Cousins, and it has set them back considerably. Every lottery ticket you buy means you don't buy other necessities like OL DL etc. It is a very big problem in the NFL right now, especially when it appears if you don't have one of the 12 you have no chance at a championship-- playoffs perhaps but not the big prize. If that does not change, if there is not some QB revival, the popularity of the NFL may decline because the same QBs/teams are always the only ones who can win the SB. It gets old.

The problem is there are only about a dozen human beings that can play QB in the NFL at a reasonably high level-- Brady, both Mannings, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Luck, Romo, Wilson, Rodgers, Brees and Ryan. And not all these guys are great, just pretty good or better. There are another 5-7 that are servicable, but not very good. That means at least half the teams don't have a guy at all. It's reality. Finding a good QB-- one of the 12 or so, is mostly a matter of pure luck, either lucky in getting a guy with a lower pick or having the #1 pick when P. Manning or Luck come out. No one knows who will be one of the rare 12, if you knew it you could try and get a good QB with some certitude. But it is all largely guesswork, and waiting around for you lottery ticket to hit is not a viable strategy. You should keep buying those lottery tickets, but you need to do the best you can as a team with mediocre QB play, because that is what most teams are forced to do given the lack of men who can effectively play QB at the NFL level.