Casey D

Nice point. I don't know who all these franchise QBs are that people want--and seem to be a dime a dozen in the college ranks according to some of the scouting experts on the board-- but Fitz is at the top of the list of QBs after the half dozen or so true franchise guys in the league today. Get past P. Manning, Brees, Brady, Rivers, Rodgers and maybe Ryan and Vick and he's right there with the Flaccos, Roethlisbergers and Freemans of the world. QB play is not very good in the NFL overall, and people are looking for fantasy guys that don't exist.

It is not my view, I was merely commenting on the conclusions of others in various threads. I think the team is moving in the right direction, and has been in every game. I'm happy.

I agree. But still we are overachieving given how many holes we had according to the Wall. In fact we are all holes if I believe what I read.

I'm a rooster-eyed optimist. I'm a rooster-eyed optimist.

We have a terrible defense, a weak armed backup QB as our starter, a defensive coordinator whose IQ is 75, CBs who can't play at a Pop Warner level, a cheap owner and a coach who calls stupid plays. I'm probably missing something, but it's a Festivus miracle that we are 4-2 given the only strength on the team seems to be the water boys.

Indeed.

Nice posts. Good to see with so many puke fans who bail after a close loss. I mean if the team quits as fast as some fans, we'll be 4-12. Whatever happened to the concept of perseverance through hardship?

Also, to end up so close on the road against a good team while making some critical errors is no shame. You are going to lose some games. Fitz makes those two throws that were pics we win. Get some guys back and strap it on against the Redskins in two weeks... CD

It is not who is in the playoffs today, but who he thinks will be in the playoffs. For example, San Diego is currently 4-1, but he has Oakland winning the AFC West, although they are 3-2.

He was AFC offensive player of the month for September. Just sayin'.

Looking at the schedule, I see four very difficult games for the Bills, @ NYG DAL NYJ and SD. I see four very winnable games @ MIA and TENN MIA and DEN(all at home and in December). I see four toss-ups, PHIL WASH NYJ. And then the final game against NE, which could be impossible or perhaps fairly easy depending on what NE is playing for at the time. At 3-1, 7 wins seems quite doable given the schedule. 8-10 is the likely range. 11 wins or more unlikely. JMO. CD I really hate extremists.

I don't think you are correct. Most fans dread that the Bills first three games were just an illusion, ala 2008. What gets them "circling the wagons" is the viewpoint that the loss in Cincinnati "proves" that the team is no good because Ralph is cheap and the current regime is incompetent, the meme that was in vogue at the start of the season. It was one game, "statistically irrelevant", to use economic jargon. What bothers people is that those who have said the team sucks from day one are using the Cincinnati game to say "I told you so"-- demonstrating a greater desire to be right that to see the team do well, and ignoring contrary evidence from the first three games. Insecure "I told you so" negative folks are not much fun to be around, even if they turn out to be right(which, of course, remains to be seen). It's the fact that they take so much joy in maybe being right that people find unpleasant-- not an unwillingness to consider criticism of the team. CD

Ignorant delusion-- perfect description of Redskins' fans. Few Bills' fans fit that description.

Long time Bills fans always have bad feelings about most games, it is in our nature. Here is Washington, the fans believe the Redskins are always going to the SB and will win. They are always optimisitc, even when unwarranted. Conversely most Bills fans always have the Charlie Brown/Lucy viewpoint.

I tend to agree. There may have been too many distractions after a huge win. If you are right, we should see renewed focus next week-- if they learn from today's loss.

See, that's why you are happy. The Bills are exceeding your expectations. People expect perfection after a 4-12 start, and are dissapointed with one loss. True that. But is blowing a 14 point lead any more significant than overcoming 18 and 21 point deficits? Team could be anywhere from 1-3 to 4-0. 3-1 is not bad. See what they do next two weeks. If they go to 3-3, then despair. 5-1 or 4-2, I'll take that. Have to keep the big picture in mind.

Don't get your hopes too high then. Happiness is merely the gap between expectation and reality after all.

You don't win every game you are "supposed to." It's a long season, they might end up 3-13, but losing today merely gives them an opportunity to show their resilience-- or not. Playoff teams dust themselves off after games like this(and they all have them) and come back. Bad teams fold. We'll find out soon enough--there's lots of games left.

And this all just occurred to you now?

quote name='Pilsner' timestamp='1317599038' post='2270589'] Critiquing is fine but anyone who bitches n moans needs to grow a set. and ya a shameful bump It's OK to be upset right after a loss. And this was a game on paper that you'd mark down as a win. But the Bills were only slight favorites, and many teams lose to inferior teams every week, the Bills/Pats game being an example just last week. The Bills are better than last year. Does that mean 6-10, 8-8, 10-6-- who knows. But three wins out of the box and 3-1 tells you little about how things will turn out. People were too low before the season started, and too high after last week. The truth likely is in the middle. But I have to agree that people who come out of the woodwork to exhult in the Bills sucking is odd for supposed fans of the team. Must be truly unhappy people to get all revved up that they are now sure the team will be .500 or worse because they got nipped today 23-20 on the road. Truly bizarre folks. But to each their own I guess. CD

Exactly. The clock would have started, so he needed a time out there anyway.

Why-- is the world going to end in December so we can't finish the season? Now that would suck.

Wow. Ruvell Martin back.

When did Jackson sign his last contract, was it one or two years ago?

That's fair. I think it is a matter of calibrating the risk, and different people might see it differently. The Bills problem in recent years is not that they let talent flee, they have had little talent in the first instance. I don't think you will see Fitzpatrick or Johnson going anywhere if they are worth keeping-- and I think they are. There is plenty of time to lock them up.