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He also thinks the NC coach was a bonehead for posting the pic of the Bills coach and owner when they were there to look at Trubisky. While a lot of folks think the Bryce Petty wine and dine is proof that the Bills interest in qb is a smokescreen, Gabriel thinks the presence of the owner signifies real interest in the position. Thinks the Bills at #10 will pick the third qb off the board (apparently either Kizer or Mahomes.) So, this is a meh qb class . . .

John C. made this post in another thread: The attached link is a WGR interview with Greg Gabriel. He talks about the qb class and his belief that the class is better than many non NFL analysts indicate. He pointed out that the top part of the class is going to be drafted in a rather short order. http://www.wgr550.co...-mike-schoppmp3 Note: The relevant part of the interview is from about the 7 minute to shortly after the 11 minute mark. It's pretty interesting.

Dobbs is my pick as well if we take a late round flier.

Yes, I think teams actually have the qbs rated higher than the popular view among most pundits and there are too many qb needy teams, including teams like the Cards and Steelers with aging vets that will be looking to add qb early. I don't really include Kizer, though I suspect he will go before #44 as well. Mahomes, Trubisky, and Watson are the qbs I am interested in. If one of them is there at #44, I will be very surprised. I will then be apoplectic when the Bills pass on whoever is there to take a different player.

I think you are way off on the quality of this qb draft class. Most likely they will be very Billsy and recycle cb.

You may be right, but all the qbs worth taking will be long gone by #44.

Astro had some sort of predictive filter a while back that had us taking Trubisky at #10 and Cam Robinson at #44. I said I would be happy with that and you said . I still like it.

Well, I'm with you and Jeffismagic on this -- and I absolutely see the scheme fit with lb and Foster, Bills weak at lb, etc. -- but if we pass on Trubisky and Mahomes to fill a hole on D, it will be more of the same bad strategy. I think this qb class is underrated. The fact that they all need a year of seasoning has folks buying that this is 2013 redux. It's not. Ah, well, at least this mock, it isn't another cb.

Yes, I believe this is correct. Yet a Bills' insider (Leroi) claims our interest is all smokescreen designed to get one of a designated handful of players 2 wr, 1 te, 1 cb, 1 de to fall to us. This could be more disinformation, of course, or rank speculation, though I have been told by various long-time members here that Leroi is legit. This disappoints me, as I like a number of qbs and franchise qb trumps other needs in my view.

I was not being sarcastic. Leroi is supposedly a real insider and he says it is a smokescreen. I don't agree with OBD's strategy, but it is what it is as they say.

Message board proofreader is a full-time job. Watch out for Trubinsky . . .

33, Cosell -- you happy now?

I am reliably told by many on this board that the qb interest is a smokescreen, so apparently none of this matters.

Revised mock seems very plausible. Bills cycle first round cbs --- novel tactic.

My recollection is he is hit and miss, so I am uncertain if he is really speculating or not. I have not paid very close attention, however, so maybe you're right. As I said, if so, this does not encourage me that OBD is on the right track. I'll repeat what I've said in a few other threads Leroi has contributed to: we likely get the first WR at #10. Maybe someone takes Howard, but this is a deep draft at TE. It is also a deep draft at DB. The positions Leroi says we are targeting don't need a smokescreen, do they? Only thing I can figure is DE and maybe wanting a specific player to fall. Imo

And lots of folks here would applaud it

What WR is going before #10? All this is a ruse to make sure Howard is available? That's a very implausible scenario being spun. This is a deep year at TE and DB. On the other hand, this is OBD, so who knows?

Leroi also says smokescreen, so I am inclined to agree with you. Imo

Well, not according to Leroi -- I am not convinced he is not a fraud, but if legit, we are following the tired path to failure once again.

This would be more bonehead strategy from OBD if true. This is an unusually deep draft at the TE position. We are likely in line to draft the first WR off the board at ten. This is also a very deep draft for the CB position. Unless they have targeted a specific player like Allen that they think may fall due to a run on qbs, the smokescreen strategy you are selling is implausible or stupid. Imo

I do have teams I root for, but I don't really get terribly happy if they win or sad if they lose. It's simply dull to have no rooting interest once the playoffs begin. When I was a kid, the Bills were also bad and I liked the Vikings because of Fran Tarkenton and purple and Vikings. Then my family moved to Atlanta and I picked up the Falcons. 0 - 10 for Super bowls; maybe it's me

Thank you, Bandit. I appreciate your contributions on this board.

Unless you're a masochist.

There are probably certain minimums that make sense, but too strict a size criteria is foolish.

I make no claims to being an expert. I am intrigued by Tyus Bowser. Any thoughts on the fella and where he might go?