Dr. Who

Think we need to get to 6 before draft? Too dicey to wait, imo.

I doubt it, but if Lamar is their #1, they can stick at 12 and get him. Lots of draft capital to fill out the roster in that case. Imo, Lamar is the plan B if they can't get one of the top 4. It might work out for them if they are forced to go to plan B. Not my first choice, but I don't hate it.

I'll recommend some older works. Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast trilogy peters out towards the end (Peake was suffering from a degenerative disease.) Nonetheless, it evokes a dark world of Gothic gloom and dead ritual, along with poignant, perhaps Dickensian sentiment that some may find bathetic. I am a big fan of R.A. Lafferty. Past Master, Fourth Mansions, and Arrive at Easterwine are three of his better sci-fi offerings. His short story collection, Ninety-nine Grandmothers is also excellent. Unfortunately, all these works are out of print. The novels I mentioned are available at reasonable prices. Lafferty's Okla Hannali is still in print;. A tall tale history of a Choctaw Mingo (natural lord,) it is at times both hilarious and harrowing.

Articluate as always, John C. Giants trading out or at least not taking a qb will be key to Bills having a reasonable shot at acquiring one of the top 4.

My order is not particularly popular with this board: I like Darnold, Allen, Mayfield, Rosen, but I like all four. My worry is the Giants decide to pick a qb and we are left scrambling for whoever is left after the Jets' choice.

That would make the most sense. It is also patently the worst thing that could happen for the Bills. One would have to scramble and probably pay a fortune to get the fourth qb off the board.

I hope they trade out of it. We are the most logical trade partner.

What do the Giants do? Pick Chubb, a qb, trade out? I can't see Nelson at 2. To be clear, I would not take Barkley at 2.

Yeah, Gugny being a fan has held us back immensely

I think Yolo's surmise is correct.

Just as lazy as the Mayfield is Johnny Football 2.0 comparisons. Jackson has a considerably higher ceiling than Tyrod. Whether he reaches it or not is another issue.

Only hope on Darnold is Browns pass on him and that Beane has worked out a deal with Giants if they do so. If G-men want Darnold, we will be trying for whoever is left after the Jets' pick.

What do you think the Broncos do if both are available? If they don't want qb, they could trade back and get a nice payout.

Not everyone here hates Allen. He's my second choice after Darnold.

I like the top four. I would be surprised if Allen drops to 12. I think there's a better chance Rosen falls a bit.

But the draft is literally all about projection. Will Rosen stay healthy or not? Will Allen reach his potential? How would Mayfield react to the bright lights of NYC?

I'll be sorry to see Gugny go.

One of my favorite novelists, Georges Bernanos, said that it would require God at the final judgement to clarify "why so many imbeciles." Unfortunately, the wise are always few. Can't let the irrationality of the mass of men deter one from pursuing excellence -- in this case, drafting a potential franchise qb.

Hypotheticals mean nothing, though. Darnold didn't, as it happens, sit on the bench waiting his turn. Teams evaluate the players, take into account performance, character, injury concerns, team fit, ceiling, floor, etc. Darnold is more creative and durable. Rosen has a perfect throwing motion and intelligence. They're both fine choices.

If given a choice, I'd pick Darnold. I think his ceiling is higher and I don't question his durability. Rosen is a solid choice as well, however.

Qb is disproportionately important and also much harder to find. There simply are few athletes on earth that can play qb at a high level in the NFL. Injuries and health concerns are a general issue in football, but longevity is more frequent with qb and special teams players like k. Part of evaluation of a potential franchise qb is character and fit with your organization. It's simply defeatist to presume that a qb won't want to stay in Buffalo, especially if you are winning.

You must be a Cleveland fan.

Yes, that is evident. If you surmise that is the primary motivation and that qb is incidental, we disagree.

I'll rephrase. They gathered assets so they would have a lot of chips. I strongly suspect they did that in order to secure a qb.

You are expressing belief, not knowledge. Terminal pessimism is irrational despair. Different coaches, different regime.