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Well, imo, it diverted into discussions that had little or nothing to do with the Buffalo Bills. I am interested in philosophical theology, epistemology, metaphysics, and the like. I surmised such subjects far too tangential to merit a place in a putative sports' forum. Some folks appeared to use the topic as a pretext to mock religion or suggest that McDermott may be a fascist who preferred Allen to Rosen for prejudicial, non-football reasons. That doesn't seem legitimate or reasonable to me, though, of course, that does not characterize the entire thread.
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I agree with this. Darnold and Allen may have more risk. I also think they have higher ceilings. Bills' evaluators, however, may even have concluded that a fella like Rosen was just as much a risk as Allen (factoring in durability concerns or locker room fit) with less upside. No way to know how a player matches an individual team's criteria. Almost impossible to eliminate risk from the equation, particularly at qb.
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Sabres & NHL 2017-18 - Entry Draft on June 22
Dr. Who replied to 26CornerBlitz's topic in Off the Wall Archives
I liked his schtick when he was here. In retrospect, he was just awful. Attempts to accelerate the rebuild were almost uniformly a fail and he misjudged the trend of where the NHL was going. I"m trying to go with the silver-lining argument that extended misery allowed us to get both Eichel and Dahlin. Hope Botteril follows an intelligent, patient path to excellence. -
And yet ten pages of speculation regarding Sean McDermott's "faith, family, football" mantra was allowed before the conversation was shut down. I was going to warn BB@Shooter that someone was bound to object to such an analogy, but you have anticipated it.
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I was one of the few Allen enthusiasts before the draft. Nothing I have read or heard since has done anything to decrease my hope for this kid. I think he's going to be a good one.
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Okay, I basically agree, but Kiper had Allen rated as his number 1 qb so . . .
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I certainly think you're a bright fella with a reasonable criteria. I suspect you have to project and gamble more than you appear willing to do, but I'm no expert. So, I don't dismiss all criticism or alternative views. All the same, imo the negative response on this board is due to significant reliance on the kind of nerd blogger analytics alluded to.
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EJ Manuel with actual talent would have been the real deal.
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If Allen was not a late-bloomer from a tiny California farm town, he would not have had to go the Juco to Wyoming route. His partcular history is rare. A counter-history is necessarily speculative, but I do believe that had Allen been in a top program, his numbers would have been significantly better and he would have gone first overall to Cleveland.
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Start Allen from Day 1/ QB competition
Dr. Who replied to BuffaloBud420's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I like the optimism and I am very bullish on Allen's future, but has Simms taken into account the quality of the oline? They'll have to at least attain mediocrity for his prediction to be credible. -
Agreed. Even if the commitment were existentially equal, concussions are sufficiently different to place them in a different category. There's a reason the NFL is going out of its way to try and reduce head injuries. Athletes have retired because of multiple concussions. Troy Aikman is an example. They can create life-threatening conditions. All athletes know this, but as Rosen's father is a surgeon, one surmises he would be especially informed and conscious of the dangers.
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That's a plausible guess as to the source of this proverbial wisdom. I may be mistaken, but I seem to recollect Trent Dilfer scoffing at taking completion percentage out of context as signifying accuracy. (This was in an interview with Rich Eisen.) In any event, surely some offenses that use a lot of bubble screens and the like or Air Raid style systems will have inflated completion percentages. I can't see how by itself it could be a legitimate predictor of future success in the pros.
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Arizona should sign him to mentor Josh Rosen.
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Tremaine Edmunds: what’s his nickname?
Dr. Who replied to NewEra's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
His real name is actually Worf, son of Mogh. Tremaine Edmunds is his nickname. -
It's a dreadful movie.
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theRALPH RANT - Bills Select Josh Allen
Dr. Who replied to theRalph's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Wr being thrown the ball on a regular basis may cause some initial shock. -
If we are going to engage in hermeneutics of suspicion, I wonder if some folks who are "wondering" about the relation of McDermott's faith to football judgements are just disgruntled Rosen supporters looking for yet another reason to justify continued resentment of OBD's preference for Allen. To reiterate what I said earlier in this thread, other than an innocuous phrase and some Christians on the roster, what could possibly invite ten pages of handwringing over McDermott's personal religious faith? Seems to me one is working hard to discover something proto-fascist in utterly ordinary circumstances that generally promote good behavior, not evil. And some have just taken the occasion to indulge in their own bigotry, painting religious folk with a broad brush as inherently oppressive, anti-intellectual dopes that one can hold up to contempt with impunity. Such rants are themselves ignorant, uncivil, and obviously not contributing to insight into the Buffalo Bills.
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What I argued was that there was no credible evidence that McDermott was using a religious criteria for building his roster and that short of something more concrete than the presence of Christians on the roster and the alliterative phrase "faith, family, football," it was unethical and rather irrational to use such a phrase to insinuate sinister implications. Further, I specifically stated that cowing religious dissent would be a bad thing. Nonetheless, I think one ought to distinguish that kind of discussion from general questions of religious verity or investigations into what constitutes rationality or an acceptable epistemological criteria. To sweep all that into a discussion of McDermott's locker room is clearly outside the bounds of what this particular forum addresses. I do not believe I have accused you of irrationality, nor have I said anything about Kaepernick. Before the draft, I explicitly stated my concerns with Rosen's durability and I do feel his personality may be an issue. I never argued he should not be chosen because of differences in ideology. Indeed, I abjured such a criteria.
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This is not a forum for discussing religion or what constitutes reasonable warrant. If one were to address these issues, one might wish to first of all attempt to discover the best arguments in order to foster genuine dialectic. One might infer certain metaphysical assertions embedded within various perspectives, overtly religious or not. Metaphysics broaches matters of necessity and contingency, for example. Aquinas argued that a rough gesture towards the rationality of belief might begin with a sense that an endless series of contingent causes would never arrive at a necessary source of being. The question why there is something and not nothing remains philosophically legitimate. It is a root question where the answer of religion is at least as reasonable as the ontological faith of the rationalist materialist. How does that have anything to do with the Buffalo Bills? I don't find these issues insignificant or uninteresting, but I surmise most folks on this board would find it off-topic.
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You're going to derail discussion into a polemic about epistemology and apologetics with a quote like that . . . faith is not equivalent to fideism, btw, which seems to be the assumption with those who think faith and reason are like oil and water.
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So far as I can tell, the foundation for this discussion is the perceived implications of "faith, family, football" and the presence of a number of players that have used rhetoric implying that they are Christians. It seems a stretch to use the alliterative rhetoric of a mantra as a basis for suspicion. Here's a less nefarious interpretation: we value people of integrity and principle. We treat each other first as family, not as an aggregate of contract businessman. Athletic success will derive from good character and comradery. That's a lot to say briefly, so, "faith, family, football." There would have to be some hard evidence before I would take it to be code for exclusionary criteria or selection processes that use some kind of orthodoxy to cow religious dissent. Indeed, without something concrete to anchor such a charge, it would be itself unethical and bordering on tinfoil hat paranoia. Though I take it, to be clear, that the OP intended a relatively benign speculation.