C.Biscuit97

Better receivers and pass rushers. its also hilarious how bad Frazier got scapegoated with multiple top 3 defenses.

Best way to describe him - solid. He is not a game changing pass rusher (dare I call him high motor). He would be much better if they had a legit pass rushing threat across from him (Bosa has been solid but he’s not one of those special guys). next to receiver, Beane sucks the most at scouting pass rushing. Groot is far from a bust but he’s will never be a guy teams need to really game plan for and we badly need one of those guys.

Such a defeatist mindset. If I was Pegula, I’d remind Allen of a few things: - he wasn’t 1st or 2nd team All mountain west - he completed 52% of his passes as a rookie, one of lowest rates of any qb in the last 10 year - he had the same OC at the start of his career for 4 years, which never happens (Ej for instant has 1st time nfl OC Nate Hackett as his OC and qb coach his rookie year) - he played on teams with top 5 defenses - we traded a 1st for a top 10 wr - he has one of the biggest contracts in nfl history - the team spends to the cap - he is in every other commercial it’s weird how some of you act like we draft prime Brady as rookie. He was as raw as any top 10 qb in a long time. Allen owes Buffalo/ Bills as much as we owe him. This is sit in a corner of hotel room mentality. Why haha? Teams trade franchise qbs because they are completely washed or they are starting to be. And if it ever does happen, you rebuild your franchise like the Lions did with the Stafford trade.

I think Flacco is the better qb so that could make the game easier for us!

Well said. We have made some questionable moves that has led to us not having as much top end talent. But it is a very mid AFC and very open for the taking. I just worry our flaws that hold us back (lack of receiving talent, defense, coaching) will show up again in the playoffs.

Fair but they also talk about Saban being a coach willing to adjust and change with the times too. Honest question, was being a Bama OC under Saban with those rosters really a hard job?

I’m not the biggest Daboll fan but that’s really unfair. Allen became a better player in the nfl than he was in the mountains west. He got the same OC for 4 years, which never happens. Allen wasn’t close to this player his first 2 years. Daboll took a raw talent and helped mold him into a MVP. He deserves credit for that. The rest of his resume is meh.

I read this as made out.

Leslie Frazier got fired after having a top 3 defense. I don’t necessarily need anyone fired but a major problem with this team (which is still a SB contender) is bad draft picks and bad contracts.

Fair but I think almost any OC could have shined with that talent and they did (Kiffin, Sark, the Maryland coach). Like you have to be brain dead not to light it up as a Bama OC. wasnt Tua also like the number 1 recruit? The best thing on Daboll’s resume is developing Allen. It’s pretty mid otherwise.

I don’t know man. He was terrible at the end of NE, he has been terrible at UNC (basically any time he hasn’t had Brady), he’s like 75, and his “girlfriend” who is with him for all the right reasons is a disaster.

I’m honestly treating Bills road games like an excuse for a vacation. I’ll tailgate and watch the game at a bar. I hate opposing stadiums. I’m a pretty big boy (not cocky, just facts) but I don’t want to have some loser opposing fan do something dumb.

Next on First Take: is Josh Allen holding the Bills back? What do you think Stephen A? Zero chance. We’re going to lose but it’s still the nfl.

I fully credit Daboll for helping make Allen the player he has become. But he is such an overrated coach. He has basically only been a a good offensive coach with Allen (too be fair, he has done a good job with Dart). Hurts became a much better player after he left him. So did Jones. He also seems to a lot to deal with . He was 20-40 so his firing is well warranted and he was given a longer leash than most coaches get with that record. I know the popular take it to hate Brady now. But fun fact, the Bills scored more points with Brady than any season with Daboll. And that was with prime Diggs (top 10 wr) and crazy Cole (might be the best wr on this roster), oh yeah, he helped Allen win a MVP. but if he wants to come back to tell Allen jokes and that helps, sure. Bring that chubby guy back. What year is where we think Belichick is still an option teams are going to consider? He has been on a downward spiral for the last 5 years and has a psycho “girlfriend “ that makes decisions for him. I will bet you a lot of money he never gets another coaching job again,