Tortured Soul

Big picture, I agree. But today, I think Vincent is our best man to cover Gates.

It always seems with hammies that you play with the unjury until it becomes too bad to play on, but that is inevitable. Similar to TKO's deal.

But only 14 of those 81 came in the first half, when Vincent was in the game. that makes a huge difference. I'd like to see Vincent spend the day shadowing Gates deep, Crowelll playing him underneath, our corners in man, and the other seven dedicated to LT and the pass rush. Keep Milloy at the line the whole game. And if they beat us by getting their WR's open against our CB's, then tip your cap to them. But if Gates (80 yards) and Tomlinson (120 yards) get appx their season average, I think we should win. One stat I haven't seen mentioned - SD is 22nd in rushing TD's allowed. They can be run on in short-yardage situations. The Bills last week didn't score after reaching the KC 7, 9, and 13 (from TMQ). They need to this week, and they need to win or lose with McGahee on those 3rd and 4th and shorts.

Sunken costs. Get over it.

Doesn't anyone (besides me) think it's possible again this year?

I expect it.

Thnaks. I had no idea. I just thought it depended on how many planes were available.

These formations have meaning? Do you have a link where they're explained?

So, do you think we should keep the Oline with the same five starters as we have this week vs. KC, Gandy-Mike-Teague-Villarial-Peters, or do we try to upgrade immediately?

Because even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe it's our time.

What's the source on this? Great news.

Well, what other scenario could you see the Bills tying in? I think it would have to be that the Bills win 3/4, losing in SD, and the Pats - if they don't lose a division game - lose at KC and maybe TB, which would mean we'd be tied at 3-5, and on to the next tie breaker, coference record, which the Bills would win. And that Jets tie-breaker last year - I thought that was a three-way situation.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined. Two Clubs 1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). 2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. 3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. 4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. I did read them, and nowhere does it say that common games doesn't include division opponents. Lets not get belligerent. We read this differently. Is there a definitive answer?

I think the bigger question is how Moulds made it. An explanation for Gandy - someone has to be considered from the line of the conference's third-leading rusher. And if you can't think of anyone in particular, by default it's the LT.

I don't know where you get this number from because the Jets and Fins are common opponents which we have beaten. The only thing I could think of is that since the Pats haven't played them yet, they don't yet count, but that's pretty short-sighted.

You need to think of if a tie will happen, how it would happen. Odds are it would involve a Pats loss to either the Jets or the Fins, with the Bills sweeping their division games. But, if we tie somehow and the Pats sweep the Jets and Fins, then think in terms of non-common opponents to make it easier to see common opponents records. Those teams are CIN and HOU for us, IND and PIT for them. So, if we lose to CIN, we'd each be 1-1 and on to the conference record tie breaker, which we'd win since we already have 3 out-of-conference losses. So whether or not you think we will tie, the most likely scenarios in which we do give us the tie breaker.

True, we're not favorites, but that's why they play the games. Almost any scenario that has us tying the Pats at the end of the season would give us the tie breaker. For example, say we lose at CIN and SD and tie the Pats at 9-7 (Pats lose to us, KC, maybe MIA). Then we win the division tie breaker. Say the Pats' third loss is vs. TB, then we'd still win on conference record. Here's how I look at it: There's no way to make the playoffs without winning that second game vs. the Pats. So, consider us both 4-5 with us likely holding the tie breaker. That means seven games apiec and all we need to do is tie them. So our schedule is tougher? Bring it on. And remember, in the past two seasons, 3 of the 4 Pats losses have been against teams with losing records. So, don't pencil them in for any victories yet. That said, start JP.

A GM has to be judged by how his moves turn out, not what you thought of them at the time. See the why do people hate TD thread. As for Sully, it called sunken costs. It doesn't matter what pick was used on Big Mike at the time. The only thing that matters it what is best for the Bills now.

Sorry, didn't know about the injury. But doesn't Graham look quick? He runs like a RB in space.

12 receptions in two years? Give me Daniel Graham instead. Also, not enough evidence to back this up, but I think the learning curve for TE's is much faster than WR's. Just look at the way Gates, Gonzales, and Shockey burst onto the scene. It might mean that those who don't pick it up quickly won't pick it up at all.

Bennie is going to make one hell of a bench warmer. Maybe he can warm my seats before I get there.

Don't be too high on that game. Remember, it was a win over Bledsoe. I think you have to add to the list of Butler's good moves Bryce Fisher, who has 7 sacks in eight games. I don't even remember why Donahoe let him walk after three sacks in spot duty in 01, just in time for his binge on 2nd round DE's.

Still think the best line has Peters at LT and Gandy on the right. lets get Peters as much experience as we can for next season. And remember, TD, this does not mean we can forget about the line in the draft.

George never produced like Owens did.

Any idea if those five holding penalties on Gandy are on runs or passes? it goes a long way to determining where he should play. I can't believe Big Mike and Villarial have no penalties between them. It seems our line is always getting called for a killer hold. And that system/players debate on the line, wasn't McNally supposed to have a great system?