dave mcbride

I did not realize that. Thanks for that info. I will confess to not having watched any Titans games.

I didn't include him because I just don't see Philly getting rid of their best receiver in a year in which they're trying to repeat.

Well, they dropped two INTs (Cam Lewis and Shaq Thompson).

I didn't bring up Meyers and Wilson can definitely play outside.

He is a first round talent. Who have the Bills drafted in the first round since Josh Allen who is better than him? The only upper echelon receiver they’ve had in this era was obtained by trading a first round pick.

Going through the league and looking at teams that aren’t going anywhere and who possess a genuine #1. Jets: Garrett Wilson. They are not trading him, and certainly not to the Bills. Dolphins: Waddle. I actually think he is slightly more plausible than Wilson in terms of willingness to trade, but only by a tiny bit. And I can’t see him being traded to the Bills at all. I would trade a first for him, though. Browns: Jeudy. Maybe? He’s a better player than many think, but the Bills haven’t had luck with Browns castoffs these past two years. Bengals: Chase/Higgins. Neither is being traded. They are being saved for next year because Cincy has the QB. (Ravens: Nobody because even though they are 1-5, they appear to still see themselves as still in it.) Titans: Calvin Ridley. Plausible. Raiders: No one moves the needle for me. Giants: No one; Wandale Robinson isn’t a position fit and is a JAG anyway. Saints: Olave. Perfect, but I just don’t see the Saints robbing their offensive minded head coach of his best receiver. I would trade a first for him. Saints: Brandon Cooks. This is basically an Amari Cooper move. No thanks. Cardinals: Harrison, Jr. Not happening. At the end of the day, the only people I’m seriously inquiring about are Olave, Ridley, Jeudy (maybe), Waddle, and Wilson, but with the expectation that the latter two are no-gos.

That was blatant, textbook DPI. It was the right call.

Does any team have more holds called on them on kick returns than the Bills?

Kinda my point.

It is remarkable. It’s shocking that they are only down 14.

Not to justify the reffing, but that is a catch in my book. His left hand had total control of the ball all the way through, and the fact that it hit the ground is irrelevant given the Bert Emmanuel rule. Players make one handed catches all the time, and that’s basically what Kelce did there.

This is pretty amusing: https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/2025-nfl-season-week-6-jets-vs-broncos.101041/page-36

ESPECIALLY when the qb is Fields and he’s been sacked 8 times up to that point.

I thought it was behind him, and on the replay the fact he slipped seemed to be because of that. Fields is so bad.

I would absolutely put in Tyrod now.

Deion ran a 4.27 40 coming out of FSU!

October 1987: two first round picks and Greg Bell for Cornelius Bennett.

The Athletic didn't really say that. It said that even his bad games are good games (and the stats bear that out for the Pats game - he was in fact reasonably good but not great). In any event, scoring only 20 at home is not going to win you a ton of games. The pick in the red zone was, however, pretty egregious. As soon as he threw it, visions of Devin McCourty from a couple years back leapt into my head. It was a terrible decision and looked like a pick the moment it left his hand. He hadn't thrown a terrible pick like that in a long time.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6697771/2025/10/08/how-patriots-took-down-unbeaten-bills/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983&userId=6953080&source=dailyemail (Fodder for @GunnerBill, @HappyDays, and @Kirby Jackson) “New England did a really good job, for the most part, of keeping a roof on stuff, and we’re going to make Josh Allen hold on to the ball or take a lot of the underneath stuff,” Klassen says. “And I think at a certain point he got pretty antsy with that and started making a few mistakes.” Allen’s bad games still look an awful lot like good ones, but New England did push the MVP into working further downfield than he normally does, and forced a red zone interception that kept Buffalo from taking a late third-quarter lead. Allen has attempted 51 passes of 10 or more air yards through five weeks, and 30 percent of them came Sunday against the Patriots. Part of that was the disastrous run game, but combined with an unsettled Allen, the Bills never seemed to be fully in rhythm. “It felt a little bit up and down where they rely more on splash plays than this offense typically has,” Mays says. “I just think about how methodical they felt for the most part over the four weeks. They haven’t been that explosive, but they’ve been ruthlessly efficient.” The fallback was to lean on their MVP, which worked, but has a limited ceiling against a disciplined defense. “Even a lot of the chunk plays they had early, it was Josh Allen making some sort of crazy play outside of the pocket,” Klassen says. “[Like] the flea flicker that they hit down the left side. It was a lot of, ‘Josh Allen, save us!’ or these one or two designer plays.” The Pats also challenged Buffalo’s receivers to beat them one-on-one, playing man coverage nearly 40 percent of the time. That’s always a risk against a quarterback who can run the way Allen can, but New England was able to leverage the Bills’ biggest weakness against them. “We’ve talked about this for years with the Buffalo Bills,” Klassen says. “They don’t have many we-can-just-beat-you-one-on-one receivers. Challenge them. If you feel (Patriots defensive back) Christian Gonzalez is going to blank this guy 80 percent of the time, OK, then you take the one in five losses that you take. Same with Carlton Davis and all those guys.”

The Pats could easily be 7-2 by November 2 and 10-3 coming off the bye to face the Bills in week 15: https://www.patriots.com/schedule/. What a freaking easy schedule.

Not really. It's more an analysis of what's wrong. Joe B does say that he doesn't think Beane has gotten to the point of seeking out a trade -- yet. But it's the exact same problem as last year and they didn't adequately address it in the offseason. The best outside separator has been Palmer, but he's not getting a lot of snaps. Maybe Palmer becomes a bigger part of the passing game going forward.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6698187/2025/10/08/bills-wide-receivers-problem-trade-deadline/ More ammo regarding the Bills’ flawed group of boundary receivers.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2025.htm Scroll down. This is not accurate. Rousseau has two, Tre White has two, and seven other players have one (11 in total). Incidentally, INTs count as pass break-ups, and they are obviously the best kind. I mean, just two games ago Bishop had a spectacular pass breakup, with the added benefit of actually catching the ball himself.

Thanks. Al Riveron.

Honestly, it doesn’t matter. Just yet more absof**kinglutely egregious officiating by part-time employees. It was an obvious call.