ndirish1978

Exactly. The FO was screwed either way if he played. If he wins- why was he sitting all year, he beat the Pats; if he loses - There is no hope at the QB position. Now they can try and sell us the line that he improved so much sitting under Orton that he is destined for greatness... if they can't sign or draft anyone else.

Myopic would be your choice to berate the OP for asking a legitimate question. Perhaps he was looking for an answer rather than a diss on his question. THIS. I find it worrisome that the coaching staff made our 2nd rounder sit on the bench and gain zero game experience all year.

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Hughes (noooo!) Spikes and Spiller

Could we PLEASE add Chris Williams to that list?

I noticed Sammy falls down untouched a lot too. Anyone have any idea as to why?

If we get blown out, does that prompt changes on the coaching staff that otherwise would not have happened? Marone's starting Orton makes it feel like he thinks he's coaching for his job.

Yes fair. But asking for perspective on a message board may be wishful thinking!

Richardson played poorly. He is not good but he is a rookie. You should expect your picks in rounds 1-3 to start or factor heavily in a rotation. The fact the we spent a 2nd rd pick on a guy who is consistently a healthy scratch and can't even get on the active roster as a backup means he's awful. We have the worst starting Guards in the league, you mean to tell me our second rounder can't outperform these scrubs in practice? Cause if he can't, then yes he sucks.

Usually by now I've put a bunch of time in looking through college prospects and trying to get excited about the upcoming year. I have not looked at a single thing this year. Barring a shakeup in the FO or coaching staff, I probably will skip the draft and offseason stuff for the first time ever. This coaching staff is incompetent and Cujo as our 2nd rd bust pick just shows me how poor our talent evaluation is.

Just wrong. There is plenty you can do to cover for a weak line. You can run bubble screens, you can throw quick crossing routes, you can chip with TE's and HBs on passing plays. You want to see how NOT to draw up a passing scheme? Watch how your boy Hackett left Henderson alone out on an island with Tuck ALL day in Oakland and made no adjustments to help his rookie RT while he was getting taken to the woodshed. How can you not draw up a blocking scheme all season that allows us to run the ball efficiently. I'm serious, watch the playacting and see how most of our running plays are the exact same play. The offense is TERRIBLE: we can't run and we can't pass. OC NEEDS to go. We drafted 3 O-linemen and 2 of them absolutely suck. That's poor talent scouting there.

Totally don't care this year

Dude not even lacking just the KO punch. Orson KILLS drives by taking sacks unnecessarily. We had an INT IN FG range and he took us out of it singlehandedly. He's captain check-down with terrible pocket presence.

Norris-like

Not under appreciated- overrated. He has played uninspired football and has show very little competitive drive.

Pitiable

I disagree in part. We have good WRs and RBs. We have a poor line and terrible QBs

Orton is completely awful, his teammates are giving up on him

You do know we're talking about a game called football right? Cause you're speaking gibberish

I hate Orton now too. He has been AWFUL

41 yds THREE Tds

This Offense can't come back from a 1 pt deficit. 7 here and the game is over

Forget the hard time beating elite QBs argument: our games vs KC and Miami make me worry we can't beat a decent team who can put up more than 17 points on us. Seriously, a TD in each half and a random FG shouldn't be asking a lot of an offense and we haven't even been able to put these numbers up in several very winnable games. Those two losses likely keep us out of the playoffs.

You've GOT to be kidding me. They're the ones losing money because our QBs don't get them the ball!

Me too and I can feel the frustration of it happening already.