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*Much* later? Uh, no. Maybe we could have moved down a pick or two. But even that wasn't a guarantee. When it came to X's with Size that weren't a character question mark (ie Mitchell and Franklin), which is what we were obviously looking for - Coleman and Ja'Lynn Polk was all that was really left. If you think we could have gotten Coleman "much later" when Ja'Lynn Polk went at Pick 37 - you're just being obtuse because you don't like the pick.

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Carter was not remotely a reach. If we took him at 60, it would have been a little high. But after all 7 DT's I had rated above him went from Picks 35 to 54 - I thought we'd have to take him at 60 if we wanted him. Getting him at 95 was not only not a reach, it was damn lucky given how Round 2 went. If you didn't have Carter on your radar and think he was a reach where we got him - you didn't do enough work on DT or him. He was pretty consistently the guy coming off the board next after Michael Hall Jr. amongst the guys I trust.

Of course there are outliers. But they're generally the exception and not the rule. If you're taking a guy who's talented, but still on the board in Round 4 - they're generally the very definition of "Boom or Bust". If the league felt Troy Franklin had little to no potential of not working out, he'd have been taken by now. It's obvious that they do think he's far from a sure thing.

He wasn't ever going to be available in the Later Rounds. We were extremely lucky he was there at 95. Especially after how Round 2 went at DT.

And Troy Franklin is a sure thing to you? The entire NFL doesn't think so.

If those things are true, that's the kiss of death for Buffalo. And I have to believe it's true. I was much lower on him than most and felt he was over hyped. But even I had him going somewhere between Mid-2nd as a ceiling and Mid-3rd as the Floor. The interview portion is integral to our selections. This brass puts an extreme emphasis on being impressed by not only the tape, but who they are as a person, their desire to be great, and their work ethic. If Beane and McDermott are wowed, they'll reach for you. If they aren't impressed, they aren't taking you.

Dude, go to bed. The spam freakout is starting to get embarrassing. You'll feel better in the morning.

Yes, it was very solid. I'll admit that I preferred different players at WR and S when we picked. But they were prospects worth taking when we took them and if they think they're the best fits - I trust their choices over my own. Carter was my most often selected DT in simulators. I thought we had no shot at him in Round 3 after how Round 2 went. A real coup to get him where we got him without having to trade up.

You're straight up unraveling. If only people told you that your expectations were ridiculous when it came to the Draft.

Stop with Jefferson. Justin Jefferson isn't available. They moved on from Kirk Cousins because they wanted to be able to pay Jefferson when the time comes. Jefferson talked excitedly about different Rookie QB's he wanted to play with during the offseason. He was one of the first people to reach out to J.J. McCarthy - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jim-harbaugh-justin-jefferson-welcome-j-j-mccarthy-to-vikings-he-had-his-heart-set-on-minnesota/ As always, with guys like Tee Higgins and Brandon Aiyuk/Deebo Samuel as legitimate possibilities - you have to focus on ludicrous fantasy.

We're clearly circling back to Free Agency and/or have a Trade for later in the Offseason in the works. We're not relying on someone left on the board in Round 4 to be some kind of savior or Starter for us.

You would think if anyone in the league viewed Troy Franklin as HALF the prospect posters on this board obsessed with him are - that he wouldn't be on the board in Round 4. I wouldn't put all my eggs into the Franklin basket. I can easily see Buffalo preferring Devontez Walker, Javon Baker, Brendan Rice, Malik Washington, or Jamari Thrash over him.

16 WR's have gone off the board and he's still available as we enter Day 3. https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxjELuuXoO_GJMPSrqpCSJdfJRIAL64mpp In all seriousness, I didn't expect him to fall this far. I had him as a Late 2nd Round - Early 3rd Round prospect. But it's clear there's a MAJOR disconnect between the rampant overhype he had on this board all offseason and how he's actually viewed in league circles.

We clearly didn't feel the WR's available after we picked at 33 were impact players for us this year and that the guys available in Round 4 or later won't be much different than the guys available to us at 60 or 95.

More of a 3. Cover 1 guys were really high on him. Like him a lot and didn't think we'd have a shot at him at 95 the way Round 2 went. DT is EXTREMELY thin. WR still has quite a bit of meat left on the bone. People need to relax on WR. I don't think Franklin is viewed any differently than guys like Devontez Walker, Javon Baker, Brendan Rice, Malik Washington, or Jamari Thrash in league circles. He's a sexy name on this board, but reality is that he isn't the prospect he was made out to be around here. Quite likely that we have one or more of those guys above him. They're all available currently and could be in play for us tomorrow with the ammo we have.

This would not shock me in the least. RB2 is a sneaky need, we met with him at the Combine. and he's a perfect fit for what we need and 95 is around the area where I expect him to go. I'd be here for it.

I'd honestly be surprised if we went WR at 95. There's some guys sticking out like a sore thumb and still a number of decent WR prospects in Walker, Franklin, Baker, McMillan, Rice, Thrash, and Washington that we could move up for on Day 3. I don't think we view Franklin as significantly better than a number of them.

I'd be surprised if it was LB. But I almost expect a Defensive Lineman. After the run in Round 2, DT's have gotten back to the value point. Isaac at DE is sticking out like a sore thumb. As is TJ Tampa at CB.

Four names that I think are likely that aren't on your list: DE Adisa Isaac DT DeWayne Carter CB TJ Tampa RB Braelon Allen

Lol Jermaine Burton and his character issues before Franklin.

Seeing this first and then scrolling up and seeing who posted just before you made me laugh.

Again though - that doesn't explain away the measurements coming in less than expected. And if the illness effected his shocking times in the 10 (DEAD last amongst all WR's at the combine) and the 40 (not slow, but NOWHERE near as expected) - then why did he choose to stick to those times at his Pro Day and not re-run? His Highlight Reel looks great. But beyond the YouTube clips, there's plenty of lowlights. He struggled against some Weak CB's who aren't NFL level prospects.