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I think...IMO, that when you have rookies and backups in the secondary, you make sure you find a way to lay the wood to the QB. We seem to be stuck on the rush 4 philosophy which is ok if ya got the horses. Thankfully, they did retool the Dline, but it ain't gonna fly every week. Teams are going to adjust and we end up giving pedestrian QBs all day to throw. Yesterday was frustrating even though Brissett has some mobility. They showed on TV McD having what seemed like a P.O.'d convo with Frazier and lo and behold the pass rush kicks up a notch. That exchange was shown plain as day on the telly and my beef with McD is that he is supposed to be D.C guru and it takes him forever to put a foot up someone's ass. He needs to quit worrying about it and take control sooner than later. Any one of us can predict the opponent's M.O. on offense each week, but nothing seems to change. If McD don't put two cents in now, Goff will tear us up on National TV Thurs.

Or have 2 Bosas, a Donald a Mack and a Miller.... I'll take that bet. Until we get a Defensive Co. with a pulse and some game face, we are gonna lose important games.

BTW we are facing the Detroit Lions coming up. What's the plan? To hopefully outscore them? I think McD better take over this Defense now.....or it's his ass that should be on the fire.

Well hopefully we won't face that caliber of QB again....sheesh

Forgive me for not having read all replies, but keeping in mind we played the Browns, and with all the previous games considered....Frazier couldn't get pressure with a warrant. We are a ***** defense when it comes to rush fo. Get lucky once in a while, but a jugs machine could give us a loss......

Knox has been our 6th Lineman in pass pro. I wish people would let up on him a little. It's the way he's being used. I hope the coaches coach smarter. Quit thinking you have to convert 4th and shorts every time....especially in FG range....And with 1:38 and a timeout left in the RZ and OT, take the timeout and think about what the Hell you need to do. We should have never lost let alone went to OT.

I don't know about the Chiefs. I'm inclined to stay away from any point spreads. Loss to the Colts, close win vs. Jags and barely get by Titans. I can see them dropping 2 if not 3...at least I hope so.

Or Lactaid?

Looking at the Fins last 7 games. other than the Texans, they face San Fran, GB, Bolts, Bills, NE and the Jets. They will lose some games....and probably Tua somewhere along the way.

And maybe a little time with the Jugs machine....lol

1. Have McD call the Defense 2. Make Dorsey stand on the sideline 3. Instruct players to fake injury on 4th and shorts(especially in FG range), to avoid making stupid knee jerk decisions.

I'm not going to buy into(back into) the curse thing, but can we bring back the word Billsy?....as in losing the way we did was a Billsy thing to do?

Amen, I'm pretty sure I only saw one blitz in the 1st half....and nowhere's near enough in the 2nd. If you have rookies and backups playing knowing the Vikings game plan revolves around Jefferson, Hotch and Cook, you don't give a pedestrian QB all day to throw. Last year we had the likes of Harry , Starr, Addison and Butler and our rush four only ain't much better. The absolute pig headed stubbornness to not try to get creative pressure is maddening. If McD doesn't step in and do something about this 1990 Defensive game planning, Brissett will also look like Mahommes and he's sure as Hell a lot more mobile than Cousins.

Last year we had Harry, Butler, Starr and Addison. This year we have replaced them with top notch talent....what's better? Nothing's changed because the coaching hasn't changed.

So...knowing all this ahead of time, maybe someone should have notified the staff that they may need to do things a bit different than usual.

Well I believe they blitzed once in the first half. Your defending Jefferson, the TE and Cook. You're not getting pressure leaving these young guys out to dry. This is the worst Defensive coaching that there is. You can throw stats all you want, but every team knows how to beat us cause we gonna rush fo and not pose a threat. Von Miller and all the moves on Dline will just be a waste if we can't be creative with mixing in blitzes. Look at what the Vikings sent all day long.

I do have issues with the Offensive play calling, but letting Cousins cut us up shows the first need in a coaching change. What's gonna happen next week ....let Jacoby Brissett throw for 300?...and get embarrassed by the Browns? Maybe we can blame Dorsey and Allen, but Frazier has been here the whole time and you could give him Moses, Peter, Paul and John and he would let a piss poor QB throw for 300 plus. They should have never scored 33. This is the NFL and always changing.....to beat us. Seems like we never get the memo.

Allowing Kirk Cousins with 3 players to score 33 points is an absolute embarrassment. We have great talent on the Defense sans injuries and young players on the backside , yet we refuse to adapt and let a pedestrian QB blow us out.

And Frazier needs to be gone right now! You are playing ....of all people, Kirk Cousins and give him all day to throw! You have rookies and backups filling your secondary and hang them out to dry! I don't give a crap about Von Miller, I love him but it comes down to simple math. You ain't getting sacks when you have 4 rushing 6....and our young secondary paid for that. I'm not all down on the defense either. Not safe guarding the field goal in OT was brutal as well....but we got beat by a statue of a QB and it should have never have been close. If McD can't get control of the stupidity, my faith in him is gone.

I said this before. Looking at the schedule when it came out, I wouldn't be thinking we'd be at 6-2 especially opening with the Rams and Titans, so I'm just grateful for where we are. I have faith in Dorsey to adapt to our current situation. Frazier not so much.

The opposing game plan each week is not rocket science. The Vikings are gonna try to run to at least 3rd and shorts and take some shots deep if they can get one on one coverages. On defense they will be looking to take away those check downs from Case and stack the box. For us, we need to trust Case to be able to make them pay for the above by going 4/5 wide even sending Cook/Hines out wide. I'd like to see more Shakir although it's possible for Isaiah to have a big day with screens. On defense we need to stuff the run and BLITZ!!!!! We can't survive getting gashed for 200+ on the ground and allowing a 50% plus 3rd down conversion rate. That's getting to be an annoying habit.

Well when he lines up behind the right guard and helps on the right side that gives Josh at least an extra second or 2 and fortunately we haven't seen Josh with an injury sooner from the right side rush.

Weren't we 7-6 at some point last year?

Looking at the schedule....If we can beat Minny, we have the Browns at home next week. It wouldn't surprise me if they held Josh out til Thanksgiving in Detroit. Of course it all depends on winning tomorrow.

I believe it's because he's constantly needed to help pass protect.