stevestojan

I don't normally blame the refs but that was an absolute game killer.

Neither team can be happy with their offense. I will say, even despite the pick six, I do think orton looks more under control out there. Some decent passes. 70% completion so far.

Declined??????

Got away with a hold.

Gilmore. Pro Bowl.

2nd and 22 and you run against Suh? Way to show you've given up.

That wasn't a good pass.

CJ should try bouncing to the outside.

Gilmore is a bad football player.

This has been talked about before. But, seeing as 1) you posted this (a member who I respect) and 2) I don't know the answer, I'm interested to know the origins.

I guess I'm supposed to say "this" or "+1" but I'd really just like to say that I agree.

If the Bills don't cover, I'll be surprised. Blow out? Remember Donkey Kong Suh.

Ground up. And in the freezer.

If I recall, the last time he "let himself loose" his knee stopped working.

"I got drafted in the first round (when everyone thought I'd go 3rd round tops) and now have to hold a clipboard and still make millions???? God bless the Buffalo Bills." I'm very impressed he gave a classy sound bite.

What's sad is that I'm so desperate for a playoff game, I'd be ok with that.

I'm currently the tree in the forest that fell with no one around.

Never had a hat full of nachos but I'd have to imagine there's nothing equally fun.

So glad someone FINALLY started a thread about EJ.

Orton is average. Average > Awful.

The team who's quarterback sucked the least won Sunday. That was a HORRIBLE football game and I feel bad for anyone who wasn't a Texans or Bills fan who had the unfortunate situation that would have forced them to have to watch it. Our memories are so short. We're now praising the guy we literally couldn't wait to run out of town ? (Other than he was a nice guy, of course). I'm sick of losing like the next guy, but sorry to tell you, we're in first place in the division and Orton is a short term answer; the exact type of answer we need right now. EJ can now spend three years "developing" his accuracy.

The QB isn't our big problem on offense? What is? The RBs have been playing well, he's had protection, and the receivers are getting WIDE open.

Valid points

You know Orton isn't the long term answer, but EJ missed WIDE OPEN receivers. Even his completions are often low or at the expense of his WRs' ribs. Can you teach accuracy? I don't think so. He wasn't just bad yesterday. He always abysmal. And it wasn't like he shot the lights out in SD either. I honestly believe Orton would have won that game for us yesterday. Houston is not good.

I truly believe any other NFL QB could have beaten the Texans yesterday. I also think you've likely seen EJ Manuel start his last NFL game.