BigAl2526

Your first and second round players total 44 players including some borderline 2nd/3rd round picks. That means that more third round values will be drafted in the second round than second round values.

Actually, Tyliek Williams has played a lot of 3 tech. I agree that they probably won't double up on defensive tackle in the first two rounds.

I think there is a technical difference between off season conditioning workouts (what the Bills are doing now) and OTAs, which will come in May and include the draftees.

I think this is the earliest draft we've had in a while.

He was born 2 years to the day after I was. That's a sobering thought.

What that shows is there is not even a ghost of a consensus as to how the draft will fall or what the Bills are thinking. I even saw one mock recently that projected a guard to Buffalo at #30. The rationale? Sean McDermott wanted to ban the "tush push" because "the Bills were so ineffective at running it." Huh? "A guard would make it more effective."

So, is Carter trying to get bigger and stronger to handle the different demands of 1 tech? If that is the intention of the Bills, then Derrick Harmon as draft pick makes a certain kind of sense. It would give Buffalo a pure 1 tech and a pure 3 tech in Jones and Oliver (even though Oliver has filled in at 1 tech when necessary) plus a couple guys who can flip back and forth in Carter and Harmon. As long as they have enough beef to hold up in run defense, it gives them lots of flexibility, something the Bills seem to love.

What is the value of reporting that some sort of artificial intelligence can project second and third round value players to Buffalo in round 1? I don't get it.

Gunnerbill is the only one that I can think of. He knows his stuff and is one of the very few who appears to have a discipline practice of film study.

Wow! Who would have thought someone living in SoCal could be so deprived. Here in Rochester you can get great pizza at dozens of locations. Most places that have wings have barbeque as an option. BTW, barbeque is my go to choice as I'm not fond of Buffalo sauce. Garlic-parm isn't bad either.

I will attend a Bible study early, then catch up on the early picks. There is not that much drama early, so I don't think I'll be missing that much.

Round 1 depends greatly on who falls, but Amos is a reasonable possibility. It is doubtful that Tyliek is still on the board. Collis is iffy. He might be there and might not. Alexander would not be my choice. T think Bond may have been removed from Buffalo's draft board with his red flag. Royals is still in play. I also agree on Ayomanor

I would shocked and probably disappointed if the Bills climbed higher than about #25, and even then it would need to be a really intriguing player to make me happy. I think the odds favor a trade down more than a trade up, but you never know.

Happy easter. My wife and I went to Church this morning then took a two hour and 15 minute drive to Easter dinner with my wife's family. It was a good day, the only negative was 4 1/2 hours on the road.

I like this draft. I agree the Bills will likely avoid Bond, who has spent his time since college football ended, accumulating red flags. Maybe instead of Bond, they might take a look at Arian Smith, whose negatives include questions about his college production and his hands.

I think both were wrestlers. One of the major strengths of Kyle Williams (the DT) is that he was lightning quick at the snap. Zierlein thinks Hutmacher has below average first step quickness.

House is making light of the fact that WR prospect Kyle Williams shares both first and last names with the venerable defensive tackle who played for the Bills several years back. Haven't you seen examples of House's humor in the past? Here are the weaknesses of Nash Hutmacher according to NFL.com's draft coverage (Lance Zierlein's commentary I believe: Below-average first-step quickness upfield and laterally. Very short arms prevent separation from the block. Struggles getting rid of the blocker to tackle his gap. Range of play won’t extend far beyond his closest gaps. Unable to generate pocket pressure if he doesn’t win quickly. He is rated as a bottom of the roster or practice squad player.

The Bills have the most complete list LOL. All anybody else has is a compilation of bits and pieces cobbled from many sources. My guess is that list has some missing pieces.

If the draft falls right, there is no position I'd rather draft than DT, but if Kenneth Grant and Derrick Harmon are gone, the picture gets muddy. I'm not real interested in Walter Nolen for reasons I've stated in a number of other threads. I have some interest in Tyleik Williams, but I have questions about his value at #30. That's the very end of the list of DTs I would give any consideration to at #30. There are more I would consider at #56 or #62.

There is no way for them to know. What they know is that White was a two-time pro bowler. He is a couple years removed from a devastating injury. It's reasonable to assume that the injury was a major factor in his struggle with the Rams. He was somewhat improved in Baltimore. It's not outrageous to think that another season removed from the injury could bring further improvement. Given that CB is the most obvious need heading into the draft, the very modest risk he presents is easily worth it. Better than Rasul Douglas? We can't be sure, but the pre-injury Tre White was. Tre White is not young, but he's younger than Douglas, and Douglas looked like he was pretty much spent last season. It wasn't due to injury. He just looked old. He's not going to be any better this season, but Tre White might be.

I see no differentiation based on specific DT position. 3 techs (which comprise almost all listed players on both lists) are almost always going to have the better stats and more speed, but the presence of a big strong 1 tech helps a lot of that statistical production on the part of the 3 techs happen. There is no stat for tying up blockers and drawing double teams. It's no secret, I've been drumming for a 1 tech in the draft. I the lists that the OP compiled, I think Farmer, West, Harmon and Tyliek all have 1 tech potential, Tyliek especially. Only West was primarily a NT in college, and that was in a 3-4 defense. I understand he switched to 3 tech in a 4-3. West and Tyliek both have short arms, which is a negative, though some players have overcome that disadvantage.

I think CB is still in play in either the first or second round of the draft, but in no parallel universe is it a bad think to have Tre White back.

No. I just wanted to give a thumbnail description of the group. In the first round, I think Hairston and Revel are probably reasonable values. Amos might be a bit of a reach, but not outrageously so. Revel's injury is something teams will be aware of, but if medically it looks like his recovery is going well, I would be very willing to take a chance. The Bills will have to decide if Hairston can be a good fit for them. I really like Morrison in round 2, though there is a good chance he doesn't last until the Bills pick. Amos will almost certainly be gone by #56. If Buffalo needs to get their CB in round 2 and Morrison and Amos are gone, I would be willing to gamble on Porter despite some technical issues. I'd even settle for Thomas, but the speed issue still concerns me.

I think this is a good move. No, it doesn't negate the priority Buffalo needs to put on drafting a CB as early as possible (first or second round, hopefully. But the fact that he has continued add time since his last major injury should lead to some physical improvement. We know his skill set is a good match for the system Buffalo's defense plays., and he's as good a fit as anybody for the Bills locker room.

You're comparing apples to oranges. First, the Rams during a good part of Aaron Donald's tenure ran a 34 defense. In 2020, for instance, A'Shawn Robinson was the nose tackle at 6'3" and 320 lbs. Aaron Donald lined up outside of him. In 2023 Kobie Turner was the nose tackle for part of the year due in part to an injury to Bobby Brown, who came off IR to start in November. Turner was a bit undersized at 305 lbs, but then Brown came in to play at 328 lbs. The defensive end spot in 2023 was variously manned by Earnest Brown at 270 lbs and Marquise Copeland at 287 lbs. Their outside linebackers were Michael Hoecht at 267 lbs (Gee, where have we heard that name lately?) and Byron Young at 258 lbs. So, yes, Aaron Donald was on the light side for a defensive tackle, but overall there was ample beef on the Rams front 5. I don't mind a light defensive tackle, but if you are light across the line, you are bound to be vulnerable to a power run game. I'm happy to have Oliver or Nolen line up with a good-sized nose tackle next to him on run plays. I wouldn't mind both of them together on obvious passing plays, but I think a steady diet of them together on run downs is asking for trouble.