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Wow. Hope the way they treated McCloud is not something Schoen learned from Beane. Yuck - O. 1) don't ask a player who is starting to take a pay cut, while they're still slated to start 2) don't ask a player you just signed in the off-season as a FA to take a pay cut - if they aren't worth that, why did you recently offer it to them? 3) in general, don't ask players to take pay cuts during the season It's one thing if a team negotiates in the off season with a player on a long-term contract who is under-performing his contract (Knox, Von Miller), when the team is cap-crunched and trying to make moves. Everybody knows what's going on. It's another to do what Schoen is reported to have done above. Woof. Nick McCloud was a guy who was signed as an UFA originally by the Bills. "Bold" and "unusual" try "ridiculous" and "disrespectful"

That's the most logical interpretation of this.

Ah OK. Thanks! I mean, isn't that always true of the playoffs?

If the question is "who is the Bills most productive WR this season and far too valuable to the offense to be risked on returning punts?" then sure, Shakir is that answer.

the Joker in the decision making deck: Punt returns and whether or not Codrington can go

But Keon is so slow, and cant cut!

OK thanks. Not what I thought I heard but I could be mistaken I'm confused who is "they" in this sentence? The Broncos last played AZ in 2022 The Bills of course opened the season in AZ but, we only sacked Murray 4 times. Most Murray was sacked this season was 5x Browns, Colts, Chargers, and Bengals....Browns, Chargers and Bengals scored more than 30 points. I dunno what to make of that....if you happened to do something like that for the Bills D including the Rams and Lions games, we'd look like we fell off a cliff, I guess? Did they have some major injuries? Looks as though they were missing a starting CB for 3 of those 4 games but that's a bout all

The league average punt return is 1~0 Y/R (I looked: 9.9 Y/R actually) The Bills are 8th in the league averaging 10.8 Y/R The Broncos are 1st in the league with 15.7 Y/R No return vs 15.7 Y/R seems like a significant advantage to me.

Dang, you're right!

No, it's not a misallocation of resources. The draft is a bit of a crap shoot. Teams put their best effort into scouting and then take their best shot. It's understood that some picks will hit, and some will miss. Kincaid is on a rookie contract, he's not taking much resources. The only TE in Kincaid's draft class who is contributing more is Sam LaPorta, and he's doing it on significantly more receptions. GB got a nice TE in the 3rd round, but there were 7 TE drafted after Laporta in the 2nd and 3rd rounds - so sure, you can get a good one, who is he? Every team would like their draft process to improve. I will say that Beane consistently takes a kind of "boom or bust" approach to drafting. He has a "type": athletic, very physically talented guys who have fallen towards the bottom of the first round where we can reach them because of some perceived gap in their skills which Beane believes the Bills can coach up. Exhibit A Edmunds pre draft profile extolled his size, speed, and explosiveness but noted: "Instincts are average and relies on athletic gifts. Can be a step slow to diagnose. Lured by misdirection. Will take random downhill paths that trap him in the quagmire." So the idea was the Bills would coach him up on his ability to diagnose and make it instinctual. AJ Epenesa was another project, they asked him to totally re-make his body for the NFL. Rousseau, relatively minimal experience playing football - was drafted with only 1 season of college football, due to a broken ankle as a freshman and then Covid as a junior. Kincaid, beautiful route runner with soft hands but only played 1 year of HS football before deciding to go that way in college, pre draft profile notes "Jarred off of his base by average contact." and "Physical defenders are able to slow his routes." Again, Beane's idea is he'll get coached up and learn to release and cope with physicality in the league and then, look out. Coleman is sort of along the same theme as Kincaid and Rousseau, very athletic guy with good hands who is not a polished route runner and struggles to release against press man. I can't say Beane's idea is wrong. We're drafting near the bottom of the rounds consistently so if a team wants to bring in top talent, they have to try some kind of strategy or get lucky in the late rounds. The fact that Kincaid missed 4 games with his knee injury didn't help his production, either.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43348810/tyreek-hill-agent-says-star-wr-committed-dolphins Drew Rosenhaus says Hill is really committed to the Dolphins "I think at the end of the day, he's committed to this Dolphins football team," he said. "I believe Tyreek is a great asset to the Dolphins and I think he's the last guy people should be worried about in this organization. They have many more worries -- Tyreek Hill's not one of them." But he can not confirm that Hill wants to stay in Miami: "Let me just say this -- I've got to have that conversation with Tyreek. I'm not going to speak for him," he said. "I'm not going to say, 'He does, he doesn't.' That's a discussion I'm going to have to have with him that I haven't had yet."

Believe it or not, the guy on the roster with the most recent experience returning punts is.....Keon Coleman. He returned punts for FSU last year. If you want the ball caught no matter what the winds are doing, bring up Hyde and stick him back there. If you want a guy with more recent experience, bring up the guy that Codrington beat out, but who was drafted in part for his ST chops, Daequan Hardy. Dark horse not involving PS call-ups, Coleman. Again, do NOT want to see Shakir fielding punts, just like when Hyde was our starting safety I didn't like seeing him back there. Hollins does not have NFL experience returning punts, and only 1 KR.

I do NOT want to see Shakir back there returning punts. He has been the most productive WR for the Bills, and it isn't close. Coleman is 2nd with 265 fewer yards. Just "No" to risking Shakir on the craziness and the scrums that punt returns can involve.

Fair questions. Seattle is a longer trip/flight for the home team - 2 3/4 hr - ish. San Francisco and AZ are about the same length of flight, 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 ish. All of the stadia are open (AZ has a retractable roof) but the open stadia in San Fran and Seattle sometimes admit pouring rain, which is probably something LA doesn't want to deal with. AZ is gonna be easier to handle last minute logistics of hotel rooms for players, staff, and media than San Francisco would be. It's only a 2 hr adjustment for Minnesota to LA, so it takes an hour off, and gives the Rams an hour, but I don't think that's a big deal

Took them long enough. I don't know what they thought was gonna happen to make it playable in LA, just due to air quality and leaving aside that the high winds make it unpredictable how and where fires will spread Stay safe!

This piece with Jason Garrett is new, but it's been talked about before https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2021/11/15/Upfront/The-tech-advantage.aspx and this embarrassingly gushy pre-national-game interview with Chris Simms It's interesting to see how much chunkier Allen was back then. Part of it is a flattering beard style that shapes his face, but he genuinely does seem to be trying to be more in shape

Doesn't Surtain stick to one side and not follow a receiver?

Here Someone pointed out after I posted that Payton was suspended for 2 games in 2012 which would make it "even steven" for Payton as HC of NO vs McDermott as DC Of course, the two QBs and offenses had roles, it's not entirely on McD

Broncos got 5 of them vs. Kansas City in the final game. (Poor Wentz)

During and after the game, it was said "no observed or reported injuries". So none of us know for sure if the final punt return was where Codrington injured himself (though Bangedup Bills commented limping slightly afterwards) He might have injured himself on one of his other 8 ST snaps or his 27 snaps as a CB and aggravated it there. He might not have realized he was hurt vs just shaking off a hit until it started to stiffen up a couple days later

It may well be. Allen said last week he feels the best he's felt going into the playoffs. I hope that's a good omen.

Good question. Lions maybe? Giants maybe?

Sooooooo Peyton Manning 13 years with the Colts, 1 Superbowl Win with 7 years of Dungy? Then 1 Superbowl appearance with Caldwell.... are we dissing on Manning now?

I'd like to see Kincaid taking a big step towards being able to release quickly off the LOS especially against press man. It's one reason he doesn't get the targets he would otherwise.

Definitions aren't your thing, and neither is "diversity of opinion" of which there is plenty around here. I'd suggest you look around and read some other posts to find plenty of criticism and people civilly disagreeing with each other, but I'm going to guess that reading comprehension may not be your thing either.