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Who do you think Josh would want? The stud WR, that's who. That's why you would ask Josh, because that is who the FO wanted all along. You tell him, once you get this guy, Josh has to use him for at least 3 years. Josh will gladly agree. This is the Sanders replacement with much more long term potential value.
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Great signing! I thought Crowder was out because of the $12M figure. I realize it's an estimate, but that is just out of whack. Spotrac had Crowder and Landry at the $12M estimate. What a deal.
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2022 Free Agency - Around the NFL Thread
Einstein's Dog replied to Draconator's topic in The Stadium Wall
I don't think so. Rivers > Ryan. Ryan looked cooked last year to me. This looks a lot more like when the Colts tried the reclamation project of Wentz. They may have a better leader than Wentz but they still have a putrid QB IMO. -
Beane has also said that the passing game is the Bills fastball. Meaning should be the strength. Each year they added something - first K Benjamin, then J Brown/Beas and last year tried to upgrade- Sanders for Brown. So far this year they've backtracked - gotten rid of Sanders and Beasley. One advantage of going DL early in the drafts was even if the players selected were somewhat average, they were occupying expensive slots. The draftees were taking up the $8-10M Trent Murphy, Q Jefferson, V Butler salaries. Now, if they take a shot at WR, pretty high odds he will replace a Sanders/Beas salary/slot of at least $6M. Riskier to go CB because if he is the backup, they will have only got a $1-2M position filled. For $3-4M they can get a vet CB. For $3-4M in WR they get junk, maybe a washed Beas. They already made their Superbowl window move, now they need to keep the future in mind. A stud WR would accomplish both. A CB is based on a short term need.
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WR Treylon Burks: 1. Will be one of the last tier 1 WRs left (J Williams/London/Olave/Wilson), won't get this level with second pick 2. Great fit - he's like a power forward of the WRs 6'3" 225 and fast. Helps bring some physicality to our finesse team. Known for YAC. 3. By going 1st round offense it helps even out the offseason emphasis previously on defense. 4. WR's are very expensive, he takes over Sanders/Beas expense. Great w progressive finances - Diggs now, Davis yr or two, Burks 4-5 5. We will get another FA CB. We're just waiting for the dust to settle and get a bargain. We make no-names look good. Made L Wallace into $4M man. Get a $3M vet CB and a round 2 CB and make do until Tre comes back.
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2022 Free Agency - Around the NFL Thread
Einstein's Dog replied to Draconator's topic in The Stadium Wall
I don't know about WR getting bare: Julio/Landry/Crowder/Beasley/Watkins/Humphries/Fuller/OBJ/D Jackson. Seems Beane is waiting it out. After a little bit, when the dust settles, one of these WRs will see that we're one of the only contenders with a wide open WR3 slot. If you are a WR wanting to do a one year "prove it" deal, this has the makings of a great opportunity. You just won't be getting the big payday this year. -
I would certainly hope, and think, the FO values WRs - they haven't shown themselves to be stupid. They need to invest in the position. KC has Hill/Kelce/JuJu, Chargers have Keenan/M Williams, Cincy has the rookie/Higgins/Boyd. We shouldn't be rolling out Diggs and the bargains (4th rd Davis/McKenzie/3rd rd Knox). We really could use a veteran plus the draft pick. We don't need another "he's good for an "X" rounder type. We need a 'He's a stud" type, 1st rounder. J Williams/T Burke. If the 1st rounder is a somewhat miss, he will still occupy the WR3/4 spot for 3 years. A $6-$7M dollar slot. If we miss on CB he will be a backup filling in a $2M slot.
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I agree that CB is in need of help. But I hope they address it with a FA and a high draft pick. BPA in area of expensive need kind of thing. If the draft goes in a way that their top tier WRs are gone, CB will probably be the choice. I am hoping they get a veteran CB and use round 1 for one of those top 5 WRs.
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You forgot WR in your list of expensive ROI picks. The Bills FO has left the WR3 there for the taking for a rookie (no Sanders or Beas) Unless we're going to take a step backwards we need to have another good WR. The likes of Crowder or Landry are estimated to cost around $12M. Having a J Williams or T Burks would be a more cost effective way to address the situation. Plus you give longer term stability to Josh/Dorsey. And while many don't think it matters, I think it would be a great gesture to Josh to show the FO is not neglecting the offense (Green Bay style). The big FA money went into our defense, it would be add a nice element of balance to have the first round pick go to the offense. For RB, wait it out and get a cheap veteran, plus use a later round, maybe 4, and get another. Singletary's contract is coming up in a year and we may have to move on.
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A poor man's Patterson (Laviska Shenault Jr.)
Einstein's Dog replied to filthymcnasty08's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think Crowder (or Landry) would certainly be excellent additions, but the problem is I don't think you can get them cheap. Spotrac has them both at $12M. The cost of decent WRs is expensive, that's why it's important to grow our own. Get the decent vet corner, go round 1 WR, round 2 CB, then IOL. -
The problem is the opportunity cost of a 1st rounder. In FA you can buy the top tier RBs for around $6-7M, while the price for good WRs is over >20M. Viewed in that light I think it is pretty obvious what the FO should be trying to acquire with the 1st round pick. Another 3rd or 4th round RB plus low priced veteran is fine. To the OP, plenty of RBs remain - Fournette, Michel, R Penny, M Gordon, McKinnon. Waiting is paying off as the price is dropping - Miami foolishly paid $6M for Edmonds while Patterson is down to $5M.
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I think Beane waits. He'll get a great value RB who has been (in their mind) disrespected. Kind of like the last RB standing. Lots of RBs left. Fournette, Penny, Michel, Patterson, Gordon, and if K Hunt is released, are the pool I hope the FO is waiting on. As some start coming off the board the others get nervous playing for a winner will look more attractive.
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And the smarter teams add a financial consideration to the mix. For instance, the tier 1 RBs are estimated in FA at $7M while WRs are going over $15M for C Kirk types.
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Interesting, I view it differently. While there may be good WR talent, I see a significant tier drop after the top 7 or so. If they don't take a WR in round one they will be looking into the second tier. I'd rather have a S Diggs/D Jackson type draft than a T White/G Davis.
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BLOCKBUSTER! Packers Trade Adams to Vegas
Einstein's Dog replied to Big Blitz's topic in The Stadium Wall
Green Bay gave him all the ammo he needed when they picked Love round 1. Now, Mayfield has the playbook. -
Breaking: Von Miller to bills, 6 year , 120 million
Einstein's Dog replied to BillsMafi$'s topic in The Stadium Wall
Didn't say we "have to", I want them to draft WR. As far as your examples went, they were meaningless, you can find any position drafted anywhere with good players. We're talking about what is upcoming. Obviously, you have better odds of good players the earlier you draft them. Second, no disrespect but I care more about Josh's feelings than yours. I want to keep what appears to be a great relationship, over what we see playing out in Green Bay, or Cleveland, or Seattle. You may think it's silly that Rogers or Mayfield got upset, but that probably offers little solice to Packers or Browns fans. I think the WR class has a tier, a steep drop off, after about 6 or 7. IMO, a tier 1 WR won't be there in round 2. I'm hoping Beane sees it the same way. -
WR! - Don't Green Bay up Josh, show him soe 1st round love now. It will be BPA because one of the top 5 should be there. This is financially sound because if you hit, you have a $20M asset at a rookie price for 3 to 4 years. I also didn't see the option of adding Julio Jones at what we call a contender, "prove it" discount (let's keep the Jones' collection going). Of course he'd get injured part way through the season, but we're counting on it to get our new stud rookie onto the field.
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Breaking: Von Miller to bills, 6 year , 120 million
Einstein's Dog replied to BillsMafi$'s topic in The Stadium Wall
And I would be surprised and disappointed if Round 1 is not a WR based on the following: 1. We just spent big on Defense, now put draft capital on Offense, nice balanced approach. Shows offense isn't neglected. 2. Spreads WR finances in beautifully staggered progression - Diggs now, Davis soon, stud rookie WR down the road. 3. Gives Josh/Dorsey mid-long term weapon, some stability for several years. 4. Plenty of good WRs, so one should be there: J Williams, T Burk, Wilson, Olave, London, Watson -
Bills sign OJ Howard to 1-year deal
Einstein's Dog replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think OJ Howard will have a marginally bigger role here, from TE3/2 to clear TE2. But I don't think Howard is enough to make any offensive philosophy changes - such as large increase in 12 personnel. He is too undependable, too many unforced drops. I think the FO is still has a plan for the Beas/Sanders replacement and Howard is not part of that equation. OJ is being paid like a TE2 and is certainly an upgrade from last year. OJ will have his chance to upgrade his pay potential in how he shows when Knox is hurt. If OJ can show well, and that means cleaning up his drops, he'll position himself for a larger payday. -
But look at the advantages of WR over RB 1. Long term cost, right now if the Bills wanted to buy one in FA, a top RB, like Fournette would be about $7M, for a WR like C Kirk $15M 2. With WR it would even out the WR financial room, Diggs restructured this year, Davis within 2 yrs, and rookie for 4-5 years 3. WR helps keep Josh happy more. Taking a shot at a stud WR gives Josh stability in the WR room. Plus indicates the Bills will remain pass oriented. 4. There are about 5 good WRs with 1st round grades, no RBs that I have seen, Bryce is mocked in the 2nd. The Bills just put a huge financial investment into the defense, it makes sense to me to put a draft capital investment into the offense. Balance things out a bit.
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No, round 1 now clearly goes to a WR for Josh. The D just got a $17M/yr man. Give Josh a 1st round WR who he gets for 4-5 years. A WR also make financial sense because getting even a FA C Kirk type is $15M. CB can be had later in the draft. The FO can get by with an inexpensive vet as a placement holder.
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Breaking: Von Miller to bills, 6 year , 120 million
Einstein's Dog replied to BillsMafi$'s topic in The Stadium Wall
Oh, poor mistreated BillsVet - someone calls you out for your relentless cheap shots at Beane throughout the day, and you become all indignant. Poor boy. Did Beane go to the Porsche shop and then order extra Guacomole? Is he still an old uncle whistling at the cost, or whatever little clever digs you could get in,? How ironic you now call Logic petty. No sympathy here. -
Breaking: Von Miller to bills, 6 year , 120 million
Einstein's Dog replied to BillsMafi$'s topic in The Stadium Wall
Yes, by bringing a superbowl parade to downtown Buffalo....genius.