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I disagree with your assessment that Campbell is "an off the ball LB". You are confused by his throwback facial features, and can't possibly conclude that from watching video or evaluating athletic metrics.

Good call. So so far, 1 in 20 years. Early lesson - Don't try to be smarter than everyone else :). It would be nice to compile a larger list. Also, "reach" has degrees. Jack Campbell and Jaymr Gibbs were reaches in the first round, but both appear to be high floor guys and should have full NFL careers. 1989 is pretty far outside of my 20 year look back. The amount of study coverage and availability of data and video to form opinions in the pre-internet world, makes those days kind of irrelevent compared to modern consenuses.

I remember some chastisement of the Cowboys for that. This is a quote indicating it was not thought a huge strecth though" "Considered the best center in his class by Mel Kiper Jr. of ESPN, Frederick decided to enter the 2013 NFL Draft as an underclassman. He was projected to be a second- to third-round selection."

These are reaches who failed. I am asking for reaches who succeeded.

He was actually mocked as high as #1 overall pre-draft. Maybe the trade up price was viewed as steep, and maybe the wrong Josh morons, skewed your view, but being picked at 7 was not broadly considered a reach.

can you include "no change" in the poll? Can't vote, Dolphins are the same and that is not choice. Anyone who does not think the WAR improvement from adding Aaron Rodgers to the Jets does not make them "far better" does not understand football.

When all is said and done, the NFL drafts typically largely going according to form. My guess is 90% of the players who are consenus top 3 round picks, go in the top 3 rounds, just mostly in a much different order than people mock. Every draft has a couple of percieved "reaches". This year in the second round Brenton Strange, DJ Johnson, and Broderic Martin all looked to be big reaches. In the the last 20 years of the NFL, are teams ever rewarded for "reaching"? Any prominent examples of players who were considered "reaches" who made the GM who reached look like genius?

Shorter was a big reach.

KC is making me hate puppies.

Daboll will never matchup with Sirani. Not many will. Shoen is will never match with Howie. Not many will. The Giants are living in the Eagles division for the foreseeable future.

guys are like are left at 252. But this has become so random, I estimate the chances of someone I have even heard of as less than 10%

I am really starting to hate the Eagles.

it is a negative ROI, no matter how you characterize it. It is not evidence of Wizardy. Beanes mistakes are mistakes, just like anyone elses. Ford was a mistake.

Jake Witt is a poor man's Joey Fisher.

Turning 38th overall in to a fifth and 2 6ths is not something you put on your resume.

My top UFDA target

I was hoping for Anthony Johnson at 230

One of the nicest things about this draft is that Dolphins arguably had the worst draft of any team. And their idiocy leading to forfieting RD1 , was probably an important factor in Kincaid falling to the Bills. The over under on games started at finished this season is definitely not 17.

Day three less fun than day 1 & 2.

Ekiyor seems higher floor and ceiling and than Broeker. But have to trust the process.

Broeker... Beteween Bates, O'Cyrus, McGovern, Edwards, Boettger, Manz, and Quessenberry and now Broeker we have a log jam on interior. Sentence in a few months.

If this was the MFL (Missippissi Football League) that would likely matter more: The award has been presented annually to the top collegiate offensive lineman in Mississippi. It is named after Magnolia State native Kent Hull, who spent 11 seasons with the Buffalo Bills, appearing in four straight Super Bowls and three consecutive Pro Bowls.

three guys I like at 230 Anthony Johnson Jr. Cory Trice Jr. Joey Fisher

Just read that the influencer from Canada who announced the Williams pick requested we draft Shorter for a calendar the Bills are putting out next year. He is the cover. just kidding