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You know we are down bad when we are bringing up Pats teams with a different coach and QB from a decade ago before McD or Allen were even here. Beane and McD created the Chiefs dynasty, probably more than any team has ever created any other dynasty in NFL history. Josh is probably in the most commercials in the NFL this year and was the MVP last year, but the reason we can’t get over the hump is because the league is “playing favorites” lol.

This board’s love? Beane gave Moore 2.5M guaranteed when he was sitting on his couch after the draft and FA. also, to answer your question, no.

They did. they also won because he was throwing to Gronk, Evans, Godwin and AB.

The distinction is that we intentionally favor the defense in terms of investment strategy in spite of the offense, then run an offensive strategy to specifically benefit the defense. If the Bills had drafted a bunch of good weapons around Josh the last 4 years, the performance against Houston would be unacceptable. But they didn’t. Tom Brady actually left the Pats and won a Super Bowl elsewhere when they surrounded him with garbage and they had an inglorious playoff exit.

Beane can’t let McD go imo. That’s not the power dynamic. I do think Beane is not above selling McD down the river to Terry to save himself. He has a self-serving streak in him. Even back in 2023 when the season was shaky, I felt like some of the things Beane said had the air of subtly blaming McD for the team’s shortcomings. Ultimately, I think both will end up being a package firing. And I hope they would be. I think their track record here is too intertwined to fairly parse out who is “more” at fault. It would be a mistake to keep one at the expense of the other imo.

He was traded for a first by the Pats FWIW. Brandin Cooks was drafted in the first round, traded for a first to the Pats, traded for a first to the Rams, traded to the Saints for a second.

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You are comparing Josh to players in different eras. Josh has a relatively higher counting TO stat than his contemporaries. he also doesn’t have the passing TD totals to make them look more irrelevant because he rushes a lot. For example, Josh was bottom 2 in INT’s in 2023. His passing TD total was 29 and his total INT was 18. On cursory analysis, that looks less than stellar. Then you see he had 15 rushing TDs and it changes the story. But the NFL media at large sucks at squaring that circle.

Not so much that they may need to restructure, but that paying Rousseau has to have SOME opportunity cost when it comes to building the rest of the roster. you can think despite of all that, he’s earning his keep. That’s fair I think. I just think at a certain point, paying B+ players makes team building harder.

His cap hit is low because we just extended him. it doubles in 2026 and doubles again in 27. If you want to compare apples to apples, Micah Parsons has a cap hit of $4M more than Greg this year, $8M next year, and $5M more in 2027

Well he was under contract this year so he was never walking in 2025.

If Campbell misses a significant amount of time, watching one armed Joey Bosa vs the backup OT will be quite a battle. the stoppable force vs the movable object.

Yeah, it’s super easy to drag a bottom feeding franchise into winning ways because you have all those high picks.

What if we split the difference and agree that Greg is a good player that is a definitely plus add on the DL, but as your BEST and highest paid player on the DL leaves a little to be desired?

I hope you mean Shaq Thompson, not Lawson lol.

NFL teams all rely on their QBs. I’m not convinced that any NFL in history has built it in to their offensive identity to have their QB break a tackle from a free rushing LB.

I’m like 50% sure that’s McD’s burner FWIW

It’s a hilarious approach. about as close of a philosophy of “Josh, please save us” as possible lmao.

You are missing that we have nobody to play DE. You have to field 11 guys.

I think Addison has some untapped potential with JJ as the QB, but I’m not sure I see him as a high-end 1 in the NFL. Although, you could have made that argument for Diggs too and he came to Buffalo and exploded on the scene into the top 5. I’m not against it, but I think he’s lower on my list than someone with some elite traits, like a Waddle.

I mean, there’s a very simple way to keep cap spending down on WRs. Draft them early and often and don’t pay them.

Have we hopped off the Stallworth comparison so soon

they have to play well for one half after spotting a backup QB 20 points. And listen. You get that entire sweet deal and all you have to do is hand out a bunch of $80M deals on defense and draft exclusively a million defensive players every season.

I posted his pace from Tampa - end of the regular season of all the games he played, not his totals. how is it that Brady doesn’t know how to use WRs but his 2023 efficiency was awesome? Did Brady forget how to use him? Did Brady first forget Diggs instead of Shakir, and not forget how to use him until 2024? We have a ton of evidence that this is who Shakir is at this point. We have zero evidence that he would be a 1100 or 1200 yard receiver elsewhere.

We may be saying that about the Waddle trade FWIW.