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What is a proverbial purgatory team? Dak was drafted in 2016. He has gotten tagged and 2 massive extensions. He is 82-52 as starter in Dallas. They have made the playoffs 5 seasons. How many talented teams have we seen held back from even making the playoffs because of just awful QB play? It doesn’t compute to me imo. If you don’t have a top 10 QB, you should be selling off talent to find one. Not praying Kenny Pickett is good enough to back into a WC spot 1 year out of 5.

I don’t think it is that interesting. If you have a guy who is in the top 10 conversation year after year, you pay him. You don’t dump them shooting for a perennial top 3 guy. Those guys are usually Hall of Famers. How many HoF or HoF trajectory QBs have been drafted since Aaron Rodgers in 2005? Wilson, Mahomes, Allen, Lamar is the entirety of the list. Maybe one more that we don’t know yet, but Wilson wasn’t more than a top 10 guy for a lot of his career. So hoping you can find 1 of 4 give or take QBs over 20 years is not a good strategy.

And when Ingram is back, Beano fans will crow about how great he is for depth, after calling him JAG trash when we cut him.

Yes. i often asked why Elam was on the roster because he sucked and was never active. Turns out he really sucks and is borderline out of the league. The answer is that Beano thought Elam and Ingram were NOT worthless players, otherwise they would have been dumped long ago. He was clearly wrong on Elam.

Highlighting the Chiefs’ season when discussing patience with this regime is apples to orangatuans. They have been to 5 Superbowls. We have been to zero. Man I wonder why KC fans aren’t screaming “fire Andy.”

Why has Ingram been on the roster then? I reject this premise.

They were in the AFCCG two years ago, which is just as far as we have gotten.

Ignoring how funny it is that this happens to Buffalo like every few years, I’m kinda glad we blocked him skating down waivers to the Eagles. he chose to go to the Steelers and take the money. I would be kinda annoyed if they paid him to go play for the Eagles. He could’ve stayed in Philly for the minimum and chose not to, and there should be systems in place to not allow players to game the system.

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Prior to Keon’s disciplinary nonsense, I would’ve shelved Shakir and put Keon in the slot. I still might consider it. Shakir can’t be a focal point right now.

Dawson Knox was a bad contract but he was what seemed like an ascending young player. There was upside there, even if they were wrong. Andrews is over the hill and there’s minimal upside, especially at that price point.

That’s a really bad deal for the Ravens. he has never been less of a focal point in their offense than he is now and has aged about 10 years since 2023. I don’t think there’s a single team in FA paying Mark Andrews that.

correct. I find the odds that the Bills simultaneously found the best HC and the best GM and the best QB in their franchise history to be astronomical. I find the odds the Bills found some relatively competent guys at HC and GM and they look much better because they found the best QB in franchise history to be much higher. Like infinitely higher. The Chiefs are having a down year after going to 5 of the last 6 Superbowls. They are not worse than us ha ha. The history of the NFL proves this is just false. The Colts went from playoff team to picking 1st overall because Peyton missed a year. The Pats missed the playoffs when Tom Brady missed a season, even with the greatest coach ever. The Pats franchise imploded when they lost Brady in FA, even at a hundred years old. And that to me is the point. The Pats are "back" because they have Drake Maye playing at a high level. Vrabel is a very good coach. Dan Quinn is fine. When Dan Quinn's rookie QB was playing like an MVP, they went to their conference championship. We will see how far the Pats go. But what matters the most is how good Drake Maye ends up being. Daniels and Stroud couldn't sustain high levels of play and/or health.

Ken Dorsey has put out better offenses too. You are using Josh Allen stats to prove the wrong thing imo. The fact of the matter is that after Daboll (McD's last outside coordinator hire who he had never worked with previously) was hired 8 years ago, Sean McDermott has not hired a single coordinator that didn't come up with the Bills. He promoted Dorsey, who despite having Josh Allen and still putting up a great offense, sucked. He then promoted Brady who literally got the job because he pounded the rock, threw Josh's body at defenses, and basically transitioned us into a boring offensive football team. Every year this team has an OC opening, the absolute hottest OC candidates want it. How could they not? This isn't Andy Reid or Shanny or KOC or McVay calling the plays while the OC gets coffee. This is a defensive head coach's team with a future HoF QB. It should be a top 3 job destination for an OC every year. But instead, Dorsey and Brady get the job because they are here and do what the HC wants. Those are just the facts.

Um, HC's call and hire their coordinators, not the other way around. Todd Monken didn't call Harbaugh..... The only coordinator McD hired that he didn't already know personally was Daboll and he ended up HATING the guy.

It's incredible. Vrabel getting to the AFCCG with Ryan Tannehill and the 1 seed in the AFC with Ryan Tannehill is no better than anything McD has done is wild stuff. I am trying to give our board members grace. These folks convinced themselves that Tyrod or EJ or Trent or Thad Lewis was the answer at QB. They are capable of believing anything. They don't face the reality until it's already past. Does anyone admit to being a massive Tyrod fan nowadays? We had hundreds of them while he was here. When McD is inevitably fired, you won't be able find one of his fans. His name will be anathema and his biggest supporters will disappear like a mist.

It's not an obsession. It's a spin zone. There is a difference.

Shavers is a great blocker. Stallworth could never.

He looks very legit. I don’t love him in the division. But we also saw this play out before. New OC and young talented QB have been crowned prematurely. CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels both exploded on the scene and looked every bit as good as Drake has this year.

We were picking top 10 for YEARS. We missed the playoffs for 17 seasons. I guess when McD made the playoffs in 2017, he had a set hand too, right?

Man the Pats are just a good football team. They have looked this way much of the year. Just taking bad teams to the woodshed.

How many years did we languish with top 10 picks when Sean took over? What bizarre commentary. I don’t even believe you believe this.

Sure thing Tre White - 1st rounder Hairston - 1st rounder Bishop - 2nd rounder Oliver - 1st rounder Rousseau - 1st rounder AJE - 2nd rounder Shaq Thompson - 1st rounder Joey Bosa - 1st rounder wait did I misunderstand the question

Put all your net worth on "Josh Allen over 0.5 laterals in the playoffs" and thank me later. Thielen is not a slot guy. Just because you are a white WR doesn't mean you are Wes Welker.