Mikie2times

Can anybody who disagrees with going for it bring a single piece of evidence for your reasoning? This isn't hard decision to analyze. What are the odds Rian Lindell makes that kick? What are the odds the Bills convert 4th and 5? I really don't feel like researching this, but I assure you it's not even close.

Lot's of people are pissed off about the call to go on 4th down. That was clearly the correct call if you look at the percentages of making the FG verse picking up the first down. But as you pointed out it seemed they didn't have the 4 downs in mind from the get go. If so they would have run on 3rd down setting up a potential run/pass on 4th. Good post.

I was screaming to go for it. That kick by Bironas should tell you all you need to know. He needed to put everything into it, and he's shown the power that he can have when he does so. His 42 yard kick just got slapped out of the air barely clearing the crossbars. The wind had to take at least 10 to 15 yards of the ball flight making Lindell's kick several yards past his career long. The odds of picking up 5 yards on 4th down were at least 40%. It wasn't even really a decision.

What the hell are you talking about? Bironas nailed a 60 yard FG outdoors against the Colts. He barley got the ball over the uprights from 42. The kick was from 45. If he decided to kick you would B word about how stupid that was when the ball landed in the middle of the end zone. It's laughable to think anybody on this board was in a better position to weigh Lindell’s odds then Dick Jauron.

Bironas has one of the strongest legs in the league. His 42 yard kick into the wind barely cleared the uprights. The odds of Lindel making that kick were significantly less then us converting the first down. It was the right call to not kick the FG. Sorry mods, merge my thread.

They can do all those things. Since Marijuana can stay in your system up to a month the scenario you described could happen. Having said that unless you smoke daily or carry a high body fat % most people will be more then fine after 2 weeks. You could even cut that down to around a week if you have a low body fat %, drink heavy fluids, and exercise regularly (Up to 3 days before the test).

I think this comes in the form of looking back on the year. IE the season's now over, we missed the playoffs, oh well. Not we have a chance to make the playoffs, I would rather be at home so I'm going to tank the last few. Money has to be the most powerful motivator for a lot of these guys. The playoffs lower per game pay averages, and increase injury potential. Think about Nate. If we can pull this off he'll have one of the biggest contracts in football in jeopardy to potential injury for a game he isn't even being paid for (correct?). Do you see him being that pissed if we miss the playoffs and he knows the money is now a sure thing?

Half your post you imply that I think players tank games to avoid the playoffs. I already pointed out in two separate responses that’s not what I'm saying. You think most NFL players play because they love football? They make millions of dollars, that's why they play. If they could make more doing something else they would. Making the playoffs does nothing to help an individuals career unless your one of the few players who stole the spotlight in the playoffs. Most the time that doesn’t even matter because the same players already stole the spotlight in the regular season. With no financial incentive until 3 more weeks of playoffs, increased injury potential, and 16 games of hell I'm sure that couch and those millions are more then enough to comfort for some of these guys.

Size matters.

How dare you undermine me?

Go to USA Today. Go to the football section. Go to the salary cap section. Find the information you've been looking for. Rejoice.

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I remember Tasker taking a kickoff to the house. Maybe it was the 5. Ahh what a great day that was....

I posted almost the same thing a few weeks ago. I dug it up because I suck.

I'm not saying these feelings change how hard a guy plays. I don't think it ever goes to that extreme, if it does I'm sure it's very rare. I'm saying that when the seasons over and these guys are at home, resting, recovering, making the same amount of money as if they made the playoffs, and not threatening injury to their career in the playoffs. Well I just don't think missing the playoffs bothers SOME players to the degree in which fans think.

It sounds like an absurd question. Before you completely dismiss the idea hear me out for a second. I'm sure a decent amount of people played Varsity football in high school. By the end of the year were you not physically exhausted? I've always been borderline obsessed with football, but when it ended each year a part of me always said thank god, now I can rest, heal, and have a life. I can't fathom what these pro's feel like. They play 16 games with contact speeds that mirror car crashes. The stress their body's are put threw is so intense NFL players have been proven to die at an earlier age then the average male. We all know some play more for the money then the love. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe the playoffs come with incentives until the SB (possibly Conference Championship?). You also have players like Nate who have huge deals pending at the end of the year. More games = higher propensity for injury. To me the idea is not only possible, but probable for some. You would hope these feelings are never strong enough for it to effect player performance. I bet it rarely goes to that extreme, but if it doesn't exactly bother some pro's to be home for the playoffs it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

The comeback is the best memory I have as a football fan. Having said that EVRYTHING had to go right for it to be possible. I believe the play that brought on those comments was the Don Beebe TD in which he stepped out and came in. It was 35-10 at that point and we just recovered the onside kick. To me that was the most important TD of the comeback besides Reeds 4th down TD grab. It came almost instantly after KD TD run, and gave us hope that the deficit wasn't insurmountable.

Educated Southerner = Oxymoron No offense to the brilliant Bills fans of the south.

Probably my German Shepard. If my girlfriend could cook I would I probably take her, but............

875448[/snapback] Like I said my apologies if your not. I was condescending because in your first post you sounded like a salesmen. That doesn't go over well here. If you got tickets to sell try posting under the Trading Post Forum, good luck.

Please tell me this place isn't going to turn into scalpers central. My apologies if your not, I just have three of your posts to judge you by.

100 is fine. 150+ is not, that's what I'm worried about.

Young has most his designed run plays from shotgun, or he run's in passing situations. In either case the defense would be playing more to stop Young then Henry. Henry was always a traditional I or single back with Buffalo, and with his style it's hard to picture him as anything else. If he's behind the QB the defense is not playing Young to run unless Young drops back to pass. In these situations Young's effect on Henry's YPC is marginal. If Henry got most his carries in this situation Young’s overall effect on Henry’s numbers are marginal.