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I agree, that said my question for you Ohio natives is why all the hate for your neighbors up north? Is it all because of Ohio State/Michigan? I mean I hate Ohio but the only reason is because they hate us. Otherwise I would be indifferent just like I am with all the other states. Being neighbors you would think the two States would have a lot in common. Leads me to believe it is all because of the football game or you guys have some serious Lake envy.

My point exactly

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Why do I keep seeing all these posts about ceding a spot to the Jets. Their collapse is as likely still as any of the other teams. Don't let their 9 wins fool you, they are still easily within our grasp. Just look at these games. At Pittsburgh L Home Seattle ? Home New England L At St Louis ? Don't you think Pitt and New England represent a likely loss for the Jets? Well thats all it takes to pull them back to us, then all we need is one loss from the Seattle and St Louis games. I really don't think a loss in either of those games is to bit of a stretch. St Louis usually plays well in the dome and it looks like they might have a ton riding on that game. Seattle can transform into a very good team once Alexander gets going, throw in Koren Robinson's return and thats no lock either. GOTTA BELEIVE PEOPLE Edit: Messed up the title, lil drunk after the game

They don't he just believes it would be in our best interest so Pittsburgh rests their starters in week 17. Either result works fine for me, if I could pick I think it would be best if the Bengals lost. If they got their playoff hopes crushed then it may make our game that week a easier one. If they beat the Patriots the Bengals would have some serious MO going into the Bills game.

Isn't that great? All joking aside I know its a jumbled mess of information, basically all it says is that Indianapolis very well could have something to play for in week 17.

Lots of Denver possibility's so I wouldn't get nervous just yet. For example any of the following could happen to throw off what we believe right now. 1. Denver could lose to either Miami or the Titans. Long shot indeed but a unexpected loss in either of these games makes @ KC a must win for them. Or scenario #2 which is more likely IMO 2. Denver beats Miami and Titans, loses to KC and then loses to the Colts. Since you don't believe Indianapolis will have anything to play for let me show the following possibility's with that. 1. Chargers lose to either Tampa or Cleveland the next two weeks, Colts beat both Houston and Baltimore. Chargers beat the Colts to tie them going in the last week. Because of this tie and the fact that they both have 4:15 games the final week Indianapolis would have to play starters in case of a Charger loss. 2. Colts lose to Houston next week, Charger beat Tampa, Cleveland, then lose to Colts. Same as scenario #1, Colts have to win last week in order to hold off the Chargers. 3. Peyton wants to set the record out of this planet/Dungy doesn't want the offense to have any rust/Indianapolis prefers a specific team in the playoffs. Most teams don't like to play the same team back to back, if Denver beat Indianapolis odds are they would play again the next week in the #6 vs #3 match up. Also keep in mind that Denver has lost 4 of 6 and hasn't really been able to fully gel all year.

I wouldn't be so sure about ruling out the Jets. @ Pittsburgh- No way they are favored Seattle- Possible toss up depending on which Seattle team shows up New England- No way they are favored @ St Louis- Possible toss up depending on which St Louis team shows up. Bonus in the fact that St Louis is usually a pretty good home team. Thats two loses and two games that could go either way. If one of those games does and they lose to the two big boys we get the nod. The Jets are still very much in play.

Hines Ward Santana Moss Derick Mason Laveranues Coles Steve Smith Torry Holt Issac Bruce Marvin Harrison Not everybody on this list is dominant but their sure are some good players that are 6'0 or smaller. Also consider that Lee has great ups, fantastic speed, and he catches everything with his hands. Considering this he probably plays more around 6'2 then 5'11.

4.2 in a 40 which was not supervised by the NFL is the equivalent of forty in the high 4.3's that is supervised by the NFL. You always hear these college players claiming to run in the 4.1's and 4.2's, once the draft roles around only one or two players even end up having a 40 in the 4.2's.

I would say around 4.5, he was a sub 4.4 before the injury. If he is about 96% which he says he is then he would probably lose around 1/10 of a second.

Nope, Boise State or Louisiana Tech last draft. Forget which one.

First defensive lineman are allowed to hold as long as he does not hold to allow a stunting defensive lineman a free path to the inside. As for the penalty on the Willis and the screen pass their was absolutely no hold on the part of Teague. If their was it was nothing that would warrant a flag (minimal holding that takes place on every play). As for the speed McGahee showed I think the announcers had a great point, possibly the only great point all day by them. Willis runs flat footed, running flat footed gives the illusion that a player is not running as fast as he is. I would know, I ran flat footed my whole life and was consistently not perceived as a fast player. When it came down to a race I was the fasted kid on the team by a wide margin. I don't know why exactly running flat footed gives that illusion, I just know it does. My guess would be because flat footed runners generally have short torsos and long legs. They tend to completely extend with their legs in slower motion and make up for it by taking longer strides. Shorter/taller toe runners take a short stride but use a much faster leg motion. So yes, Willis is fast, it will just be hard to really see it with his running style.

Actually two out of your first three and number four need to happen. Remember their is two spots available.

I thought the same thing, that play allowed the TD to follow. If we go in at halftime down ten I don't know if we win this game. That and his other plays earned him the game ball IMO.

PICK CHARGERS!!!!

-Evans is turning into one of the most prolific rookie wide outs the Bills have had in recent memory. -Willis is showing how bright his future looks on a weekly basis, that future only gets better once he is 100% on that knee. -JP is a unknown but if he ends up becoming a player then this trio would be downright scary for at least half a decade.

How he snagged that is beyond me, definitely one of the best plays this year. TKO said he looked like a hard boiled egg rolling down the field LOL.

I agree, why not give Gramatica a chance? The guy has a howitzer for a leg and has proved clutch and reliable all the way up to this year. Kickers don't just fall off the map that quick unless its a mental block, maybe the change of scenery helps him overcome that. At the very least we will get a guy that can kickoff to the end zone and the same kind of production we have got from Lindell.

I really believe this to, to me the most difficult part of the equation is taking care of our end. Every year you see a couple of teams that look like a lock for the wild card in week 9-10. Then they start to lose, the teams that looked out of it catch up and usually one of those hot teams sneak in. Finish 10-6 and we make it....Like you the Cinci game also worries me, lets hope the Patriots crush their spirit next week in Foxboro.

It doesn't matter how it goes down Dax, point is if they lose to New England and Finish 10-6 we beat them out. So they can have one more game just not the New England one.

Jets don't have to lose out http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=11683

Alright D make it happen