Old Coot

I'm ot that old. I didn't see the game. I'm a student of football history. I am old enough to hve see Y.A. play for the Giants.

The 1932 NFL Championship game was played in Chicago at an indoors hockey rink because of a blizzard and sub-zero temps. One rule change: because the filed extended right up to the stands the ball was placed at the hashmmark when a play went out of bounds instead on the out of bounds line. Previously teams needed to waste a down running a play to the center of the field because that was the only way to go. Read more about the elephant manure littering the field and other rules changes sparked by the game at: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/NFL_Championship_Game,_1932

Rejoicing at another's misfortune. I'll bet the Germans even have a word for that.

I agree that our eveluation process for draft picks needs to be better. That said, presumably McD or the relevent asst coaches are part of the e v a l process. I can't imagine that Beane makes his decisions without that input. To my mind, Elam has been the biggest miss to date. He's terrible and McD knows it. When questioned at half-time of the Chiefs game about who will step up with Benford sidelined (it was Elam) McD momentarily had a deer-in-the-headlights look becore recovering his poise.

part of this is our style of D; plus Benford getting hurt. Phl has much better man CBs than us so Mahomes receivers too time getting open & by the the Eagles' 4 man rush had him running for his life. True but I wish Josh would work on perfecting his craft so it doesn't come down to one crucial play.

In a word, No. Our OL is better than KC's but the KC defense is lights out better than ours. The Eagles have too much talent on both sides of the ball. KC played during the regular season and playoffs just well enough to win their games. That kind of play doesn't work against a team with the talent and coaching of the eagles. This Super Bowl reminded me of the first few AFL-NFL Championships when the AFL was clearly outclased by the NFL. Also reminded me of our Super Bowl losses to the Cowboys and Redskins.

Josh is a better QB than Hurts but it was maddening to see Hurts drop those dime on fades and on the long TD pass. Josh has trouble litting those looping throws. If I know it then NFL DCs know it, too and they'll scheme to take advantage of that.

The Achilles Heel of the KC offense this year has been their OL. We couldn't exploit that weakness even tho we blitzed more than usual. The eagles have the DL to do it and it's on display.

Thanks for this. I should have been clearer: the first several games were officially titled "World Championship" not "Super Bowl". I did not know that unofficially people were referring to it as the Super Bowl as early as the first game in 1967.

The First World Championship ticket prices were $12. The Big Games wasn't titled Super Bowl until game 4. The "Super" in the title supposedly comes from lamar Hunt's child who was playing with a Super Ball: remember thise super bouncy rubber balls?

You can always use a speedy receiver who has good moves and can take the top off a defense. One point about Josh's accuracy on deep balls (& no not bashing Josh--I'm sure he's aware of what I'm about to say): He needs to work on his "bucket" throws; that is, those looping throws that :drop into the bucket." Josh's amazing deep completions mostly have a flatter trajectory. Example: The TD to Hollins at the end of the 1st half against KC. Itwasn't completely flat but is wasn't the "drop in a bucket" loop. Nothing is more disappointing than to see Josh miss an open receiver with a looping throw. The misses tend to be overthrows. I see other QBs not as talented as Josh but who can drop a dime into the hands of a WR running a fade with the CB right behind him. Those kinds of throws are unstoppable. This offseason he should buy a motorized trash can, get out on the field and practice dropping throws into the can over and over and over, until he masters that technique.

We can agree to disagree on this. After all, social media would be incredibly boring without disagreement. You are more of a risk taker than I. I would prefer to burn a TO and get in a play with possibly more chance of succeeding than the formation they were in with that KC look. If they make the first down they don't have to worry about getting the ball back from a KC offense that had been getting first downs allnight against our D.

I'm not sure this is on Babich. No NFL DC will design a play with one of his DEs crashing down inside without having someone in the back 7 covering the edge, particularly against Mahomes, who, when it runs likes to run to his right. Either Groot isn't doing what he is supposed to do or the back 7 isn't doing its job.

As I said in another post, that play was hugely risky against that KC look. They are showing an overload blitz to our weak(right) side and we have no RB in to block. Also, when chased, Josh is known to run to his right and that's what he did on this play. Fitz says, it did not matter which way the OL shifted against that look. This is THE crucial play of the game. If its not successful, we go home for the year. You cannot take the risk that they will blitz from our right. Josh should have audibled out of that play or called a TO to talk things over, if a suitable audible wasn't available. Don't blame Brady for the play call. Remember, Brady calls down the play and any audibles to Josh. Brady is blocked from communicating with Josh when the play clock reaches 15 seconds. The D will wait to lineup until after that So, it's the QB's job to evaluate the D formation and decide whether to go with the called play, the audible(s) or to call a TO. This is constructive criticism. I love Josh; he's an excellent QB but his game is not perfect. He can improve and to say so, isn't bashing Josh, or on this play, trying to excuse Kincaide's flub. In the offseason, a coach would be remiss to just let this go without comment to Josh (privately). Hopefully Josh learns from his mistakes, he'll be a better QB for it. WE all learn more from our mistakes than from our successes. On the positive side, I think Josh made great strides this season. He was more active pre-snap -- pointing at the D to set its strength, sliding protection, tc. plus post snap he seems less likely to lock onto one receiver. That shows growth.

Well, we went 0-4 vs the Chiefs in PLAYOFFS with the white helmet. I'd rather pick the other poison at this point Actually, we did go 0-4 with the red helmet. Those were our SB years.

Bring back the red helmets. We didn't go 0-4 with them.

I heartily agree but if he has an out in 2025 there is a complication. Josh's wife-to-be is an actress. Her career might cause them to move west to LA. Josh might then sign with the Rams. Stafford is 36. Note: this is all speculation. I pray it does not come to pass.

When we drafted Bishop he was said to have a grest head for the game. If that's true maybe he just needs some experience to get better.

The tush push is a play where the D knows exactly what you will do but you plan to out execute the D. Successful tush push plays work when the OL gets a surge forward against the DL. On our tush plays that failed our OL did not get the surge forward. The announcers said KC was trying to time the snap to they get the initial surge. If that's the case the solution is for Josh to vary the snap count to draw the DL off sides or to at least make the DL hesitate do the OL gets that forward surge.

Interesting stat: KC D played nickel and dime for 93% of the game. Is this typical for KC this year?

It's hindsight but also foresight. Look, its THE crucial play of the game. KC has numbers to our right; we have numbers to our left. Either KC will blitz from from our right or from our left or not blitz. You HAVE to get the first down, no question. When you assume that KC won't blitz from our and shift blocking to the left right because KC hasn't blitzed from that look all game, you take a HUGE risk, especially since Josh is known to prefer running to his right when pressed. Is that the kind of risk you want to take in this situation? I think not. Josh needs to audible out of the play or at the very least call a TO and talk things over. Now I'm not blaming Josh, he made a helluva throw under the most adverse circumstances. But someone has to get that play changed to a less risky play.

Another view angle of Kincaid's drop, this one from behind the defense. During the game I thought the ball hit Kincaid in the hands and he dropped it. This angle shows that the ball hits him in the arm away from the ball. Kincaid apparently misjudged the spot at which the ball would come to him. Note: I'm not a Kincaid homie but this shot shows it to be a more difficult catch than I realized. Nevertheless a pro must make that catch.

This is what coaches do. They set things up during the game so at the end of the half or end of game they spring the set-up play on the opponent. Both O & D coaches do it.

When McD was asked before heading into the lockerroom at halftime he was asked about Benford's injury. He immediately got a deer-in-the-headlights look but recovered quickly. That tells you all you need to know re what he thinks of Elam. One could argue that Elam single-handedly lost the game for us. How many times did Mahomes take off running to his right when he saw Elam's very soft coverage on that side.